Dungy would never touch Haynesworth!

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    [QUOTE]you all have demonstrated your idiocy here in so many ways that your mother would be ashamed. dungy actually gave belivheck a compliment by saying if anyone could get production out of al, its bb. leave it to pats fans to buy the headline without reading the content. not smart at all.
    Posted by UD6[/QUOTE]

     Never thought I would say this but I agree with UD.  Heartless.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Dungy would never touch Haynesworth! : I'll give you one last warning when challening me: Don't do it And, work on your Google skills, dork. You're an absolute phony like Dungy.  Every time you challenge me, you lose badly, but you act like you didn't: "Prominent among them were 38 who said they found the very idea of intimacy between a black man and a white woman offensive, some in very colorful -- and often inappropriate -- language. Segregationists, however, were outnumbered by those who believed the show's opener reinforced a stereotype of black men as "sex-driven and without restraint," an argument that echoed Indianapolis Colts head coach Tony Dungy's sentiments. "It could have been any player and I would have been outraged, but being an African-American, it particularly hurt me," Dungy said during his regularly scheduled mid-week media address. " http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blackhistory/news/story?id=1983393
    Posted by RidingWithTheKing[/QUOTE]
    God you are awful at this. I mean you're just plain dumb, and once again have left no way to dispute it. No comprehension skills whatsoever.

    The writer, not Dungy, interjected the part about a black man and a white woman. The writer notes Dungy's comments about the stereotype of black men as "sex-driven and without restraint." Dungy's comments had no relationship to specifically black men with white women as you attempt and fail to project that they do.

    I don't even know why you try to debate. You just make yourself look dumber than you normally do which is remarkable all by itself.
     
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    This thread sucks.
     
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    [QUOTE]I agree.  I wish loudmouth would just shut up.  Wishful thinking. 
    Posted by UD6[/QUOTE]

    Well, I wish YOU would leave and go to a Colt fan site.  Wishful thinking.  I personally am sick of Dungy's pontificating.  He was a decent defensive coach, but a  poor head coach.   Trying to compare his choices to a guy that out-rings him by a LARGE margin?  Laughable.  And his seizing the moral high ground is getting tiring.  ITS A GAME.  Talk about THAT.  I can go to church to hear what the religious viewpoint is.
     
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    Oh, and ONCE AGAIN, UD, you being on this site proves beyond a doubt that you are a  troll.  You are intentionally driving north in the southbound lanes of traffic, and that can only be because you love causing accidents.  I find your sick fascination with the Patriots a bit funny, but it's kind of like that TV Preacher who rails loud and long against h0m0s3xuality, then gets caught with a male escort.  Come out of the closet, son.  It will be better for you.  You can still fight with Rusty about other stupid stuff, he would fight about shoelaces if nothing else was available.   
     
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    [QUOTE]  I don't know where Quag gets that he's a racist and has never helped a white guy, but then again, on this board its obvious that people will jump to conclusions about anything. Posted by UD6[/QUOTE]

    Undies, I stated "name one WHITE athlete Dungy has mentored" I still issue that challenge to you. NAME ONE. You cant because there isn't one. King hit the nail on the head when he mentioned Dungy getting all upset and finding it "racially offensive" when  TO did the skit with a white woman. Now I usually leave you and your drivel alone and I wont be dragged into a debate with you, but I do challenge you to answer the above question and not do like you always do and try to change the subject. We are waiting....
     
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    [QUOTE]Quag - Jim Irsay. Thanks for playing, deuschbag.  What I don't really get though is how big a problem this is to you.  Your expectations for Dungy make you as much a racist as you deem him.  I'm curious, how many prisons have you been to (voluntarily) to talk to all inmates?  How many schools?  I mean you've got a guy who is out there trying to help (so what that he has opinions - so does everyone else), and all you can do is find the negative.  Good one.
    Posted by UD6[/QUOTE]

    Didn't Quag say "name one WHITE athlete Dungy has mentored" I still issue that challenge to you. NAME ONE. You cant because there isn't one.

    He asked for the name of an athlete, not an owner or front office personnel...
     
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    I guess he did.  My bad.  So Dungy, as far as I can recall has mentored 2 current (at the time of their incarceration) black NFL stars, Vick and Burress who went to jail for more than a year.  If we are splitting hairs, is that a statistically significant sample size?    

    Given the criteria, name me one current white NFL Star that has recently gone to jail for more than a year?  Maybe if Kaczur hadn't been let off the hook, he could have been one.  Otherwise, I just can't think of a high profile incident.

    Further, I didn't know that racism (because that's what we are talking about here) began and ended with athletes.  I'll make a note for further use.  Rocky and Quagmire

    I am willing to admit that Dungy is "pro-black", but that doesn't make him anti-white.  When you look at some of the things Dungy has said, as well as the incarceration rates for black people as a percentage of black population vs. white, you might change your mind about Dungy.  I have yet to see him say or do anything that would lead me to believe he is a racist.  That's always subject to change, but to date, I don't see it. 

     
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    [QUOTE]I guess he did.  My bad.  So Dungy, as far as I can recall has mentored 2 current (at the time of their incarceration) black NFL stars, Vick and Burress who went to jail for more than a year.  If we are splitting hairs, is that a statistically significant sample size?     Given the criteria, name me one current white NFL Star that has recently gone to jail for more than a year?  Maybe if Kaczur hadn't been let off the hook, he could have been one.  Otherwise, I just can't think of a high profile incident. Further, I didn't know that racism (because that's what we are talking about here) began and ended with athletes.  I'll make a note for further use.  Rocky and Quagmire I am willing to admit that Dungy is "pro-black", but that doesn't make him anti-white.  When you look at some of the things Dungy has said, as well as the incarceration rates for black people as a percentage of black population vs. white, you might change your mind about Dungy.  I have yet to see him say or do anything that would lead me to believe he is a racist.  That's always subject to change, but to date, I don't see it. 
    Posted by UD6[/QUOTE]

            So its ok for a black person to be pro black but if a white person is pro white they are racist its a double standard there .
     
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    Lippa - if you think that racism no longer exists, then I could understand you having a problem with a black person saying he was "pro-black".   

    I happen to think that racism still exists.  Given the sheer population disparity in this country between whites and blacks along with the history of inequality among the two, I think that as white people we have to be sensitive to the situation, and I think I can understand why black people are wary of it.   

    That doesn't mean that I don't get mad like everyone else when someone clearly plays the race card just to take advantage of a situation, but I don't think that applies to Dungy.  Maybe I am naive, but I have yet to see him do that. 
     
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    I never said racism didnt exsit all I said was its ok for a black person to be pro black but its not ok for a white person to be pro white or they are called a racist.So why is this ok in one situation but not the other?
     
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    Lippa - I thought I just told you why. 

    Given the sheer population disparity along with the historical inequality between blacks and whites in this country, that's why I think it is ok.  

    Black people go to jail as a percentage of their population significantly more than white people.  If Dungy wants to help them, why shouldn't he? 

    If racism still exists, as you say it does, which race has the power?  Does it need the protection or promotion of people saying they are "pro-white"? 

    On the other hand, if you are one of the minorities against whom racism is being practiced, are you not going to "rally your troops"?  Stand up for your own? 

    I'd imagine that Dungy is concerned that black people don't rise to prominence at the same rate white people do and wants to try to help change that.  I believe that he probably sees a problem with not only how black people are portrayed, but also how many of them actually act.  I'd imagine he is working to try to improve both.  And I don't think any of this is at the expense or hatred of white people. 

    Further, Dungy didn't say he was pro-black.  I did.  Maybe he has, but I am not aware of it.  I simply knows that he is concerned about african-americans in our country and wants to improve their lives, as well as the lives of others that are not black.
     
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          You can spin it anyway you want to but anyway you put it its still racist doesnt matter if its white or a black person.Your saying just cause your black or what ever its ok to be a racist screw that.Stop the poor me iam black and cant get ahead stuff go do something about it and stop blaming people and better themselves.I think you have some good points on here but I cant agree with your stand point on this topic.As for dungy I could care less what he does  or says but the racist thing stands in my eyes.
     
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    Lippa - I accept that, but remember, I am the one who said he was "pro-black" not him. 

    He does comment on race issues.  He commented on it regarding TO and his TV commercial with the naked desparate housewives actress.  As he stated and I noted here, he doesn't want african-american men portrayed as "sex-driven and without restraint."

    I don't know that he's ever said anything "pro-black" that was also at the expense of another race. 
     
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    [QUOTE]Have you answered why Dungy was "hurt" that TO was seen with a white girl in an off the field situation? Or, is this your chance to deflect? We're waiting.
    Posted by RidingWithTheKing[/QUOTE]

    I didn't know that he was, and am unwilling to take your word for it, so I've asked you to prove it. 
     

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