Duron Harmon

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    Duron Harmon

    Since Harmon is NE's most controversial selection I thought I would see what was being said before the draft.  What made NE select Harmon in the 3rd round?  Here are some comments and observation on his play. Enjoy!

    http://davebreaksdownfilm.blogspot.com.br/

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1624721-new-england-patriots-in-defense-of-duron-harmon

    2013 NFLPA GAME AND PRACTICES

    -The safety group had some nice upside as well.  The most impressive of the safeties was Rutgers’ Duron Harmon.  He was easily the best athlete at the position and his breaking ability and fluid hips were very impressive.  He came in at 6-0 and 198 pounds and shows very good feet and explosiveness.  On one play during team he sprinted from the opposite hash to cover a drag route and came close to intercepting a pass thrown out in front of the receiver.  On another short hand off play he came flying up from about 12 yards deep to stick the running back at the line of scrimmage.  He definitely plays faster than his estimated 4.6 speed. http://www.optimumscouting.com/draft/articles/2013-nflpa-collegiate-bowl-scouting-recap.html

    Watched this game last year, better talent this year.  They are televising practices on ESPN, quick reports on what Bill Polian, McShay and Robert Smith said:  S Duron Harmon, RUT – very physical; solid in coverage  

    Rutgers free safety Duron Harmon will need to have a good game to help his draft stock. Harmon has had a good week of practices in which analysts felt he was very physical and could at the very least be a good special teams player while he develops. http://www.ninersnation.com/2013/1/19/3893288/nflpa-collegiate-bowl-2013-tv-schedule-draft-prospects-2013-nfl-draft

    http://nfldraftzone.com/draft-news/exclusive-interview-duron-harmon-db-rutgers-university/

    http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2013/01/2013-nfl-draft-potential-patriots-in-the-nflpa-collegiate-bowl.html

    Duron Harmon, SS, Rutgers - Scouts consider Harmon the best athlete at his position in this bowl game. There has been estimated 40 times for him around the 4.6 range, which is really slow. But scouts called him the most explosive defensive back at the NFLPA bowl, with great instincts. He plays faster than his “estimated” time.  http://proplayerinsiders.com/nflpa-bowl-players-that-could-be-on-the-washington-redskins-radar/

    Moving to the defensive backs, one who stood out was Rutgers' Duron Harmon. He has quick feet and showed that in the drills. He also showed much quicker feet than the other safeties. He was also better at diagnosing things earlier than others and was aggressive. He came up and stuck a guy. http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/blog/_/name/nfl_draft/id/8849484/2013-nfl-draft-qb-jordan-rodgers-shines-nflpa-practice

     
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    Time will tell with this guy, but he was 1st team Big East two years in a row.  That has to count for something.

     
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    Since Harmon is NE's most controversial selection I thought I would see what was being said before the draft.  What made NE select Harmon in the 3rd round?  Here are some comments and observation on his play. Enjoy!

    http://davebreaksdownfilm.blogspot.com.br/

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1624721-new-england-patriots-in-defense-of-duron-harmon

    2013 NFLPA GAME AND PRACTICES

    -The safety group had some nice upside as well.  The most impressive of the safeties was Rutgers’ Duron Harmon.  He was easily the best athlete at the position and his breaking ability and fluid hips were very impressive.  He came in at 6-0 and 198 pounds and shows very good feet and explosiveness.  On one play during team he sprinted from the opposite hash to cover a drag route and came close to intercepting a pass thrown out in front of the receiver.  On another short hand off play he came flying up from about 12 yards deep to stick the running back at the line of scrimmage.  He definitely plays faster than his estimated 4.6 speed. http://www.optimumscouting.com/draft/articles/2013-nflpa-collegiate-bowl-scouting-recap.html

    Watched this game last year, better talent this year.  They are televising practices on ESPN, quick reports on what Bill Polian, McShay and Robert Smith said:  S Duron Harmon, RUT – very physical; solid in coverage  

    Rutgers free safety Duron Harmon will need to have a good game to help his draft stock. Harmon has had a good week of practices in which analysts felt he was very physical and could at the very least be a good special teams player while he develops. http://www.ninersnation.com/2013/1/19/3893288/nflpa-collegiate-bowl-2013-tv-schedule-draft-prospects-2013-nfl-draft

    http://nfldraftzone.com/draft-news/exclusive-interview-duron-harmon-db-rutgers-university/

    http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2013/01/2013-nfl-draft-potential-patriots-in-the-nflpa-collegiate-bowl.html

    Duron Harmon, SS, Rutgers - Scouts consider Harmon the best athlete at his position in this bowl game. There has been estimated 40 times for him around the 4.6 range, which is really slow. But scouts called him the most explosive defensive back at the NFLPA bowl, with great instincts. He plays faster than his “estimated” time.  http://proplayerinsiders.com/nflpa-bowl-players-that-could-be-on-the-washington-redskins-radar/

    Moving to the defensive backs, one who stood out was Rutgers' Duron Harmon. He has quick feet and showed that in the drills. He also showed much quicker feet than the other safeties. He was also better at diagnosing things earlier than others and was aggressive. He came up and stuck a guy. http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/blog/_/name/nfl_draft/id/8849484/2013-nfl-draft-qb-jordan-rodgers-shines-nflpa-practice




    I think it's important to mention all 3 players from Rutgers

    Logan Ryan, CB, 5-11, 191


    Duron Harmon, S, 6-1, 200


    Steve Beauharnais, ILB, 6-1, 240


    I'm thinking that BB will feel that they will communicate on the field better since they've played together before. If all 3 make the team, it will be interesting.

     
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    I am also of the opinion that we should wait and see. Obviously the Pats saw something in him that made him worth spending a 3rd rd pick on. 

     
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    I think it's important to mention all 3 players from Rutgers

     

    Logan Ryan, CB, 5-11, 191


    Duron Harmon, S, 6-1, 200


    Steve Beauharnais, ILB, 6-1, 240


    I'm thinking that BB will feel that they will communicate on the field better since they've played together before. If all 3 make the team, it will be interesting.



    Actually there are four. They signed Brandon Jones, CB, as a UDFA.

     
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    Thanks for posting JJ. The few clips I could find on him substantiated what was written. He seemed like a good cover safety that is instinctual, and aggressively plays the run. A thumper of a safety with speed and good at diagnosing and anticipating. 

    What makes me excited about the pats secondary is that mccourty, Ryan have played together, Ryan and Harmon have as well, Ryan,Harmon have played with Stevie B, who I think is going to be a very good lb that we took in the 7th. These guys have all played together, communicate well and I am excited about the collection as a whole.

     
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    Rutgers had a top 15 defense in NCAA for 2012. Granted having the best D in the Big East is not the same as the best D in the SEC, but they were still pretty good. It remains to be seen if any of the draftees will make an impact his rookie season.

     
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    Honestly I don't think you can expect much out of a third rounder - let's face it most of them don't make it - so in the end it probably really doesn't matter much that it was a reach. I've watched both of these guys play - I think they are average football players that should of been drafted anywhere from the third round to the 6th. I think Ryan is a pass interference penalty waiting to happen...this guy will not be able to stick with NFL receivers without putting his hands all over him. Harmon reminds me of Wilson...not that big, not that fast, does a little bit of everything, but nothing really well. They both look like depth/special teams players to me at this point. Realistically that's all you can ask for in the third round without a little luck. 

     
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    In response to mthurl's comment:

    Honestly I don't think you can expect much out of a third rounder - let's face it most of them don't make it - so in the end it probably really doesn't matter much that it was a reach. I've watched both of these guys play - I think they are average football players that should of been drafted anywhere from the third round to the 6th. I think Ryan is a pass interference penalty waiting to happen...this guy will not be able to stick with NFL receivers without putting his hands all over him. Harmon reminds me of Wilson...not that big, not that fast, does a little bit of everything, but nothing really well. They both look like depth/special teams players to me at this point. Realistically that's all you can ask for in the third round without a little luck. 



    Do you watch a lot of Big East football?  I can't say I do.  I've only seen these guys play when they played my Hokies in the embarrassing Russell Atheltic Bowl and I thought both Harmon and Ryan looked good.  We have a few big, athletic receivers who were practically shut down all game.  Granted, Logan Thomas was awful this year so that might have attributed to these two looking good but I thought Harmon brought a nice physical presence and Ryan was a pretty good cover corner.  I guess we'll see how their skillsets translate to the NFL.

     
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    In response to mthurl's comment:

    Honestly I don't think you can expect much out of a third rounder - let's face it most of them don't make it - so in the end it probably really doesn't matter much that it was a reach. I've watched both of these guys play - I think they are average football players that should of been drafted anywhere from the third round to the 6th. I think Ryan is a pass interference penalty waiting to happen...this guy will not be able to stick with NFL receivers without putting his hands all over him. Harmon reminds me of Wilson...not that big, not that fast, does a little bit of everything, but nothing really well. They both look like depth/special teams players to me at this point. Realistically that's all you can ask for in the third round without a little luck. 



    Good post.  Sounds about right.

     
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    In response to mthurl's comment:

    Honestly I don't think you can expect much out of a third rounder - let's face it most of them don't make it - so in the end it probably really doesn't matter much that it was a reach. I've watched both of these guys play - I think they are average football players that should of been drafted anywhere from the third round to the 6th. I think Ryan is a pass interference penalty waiting to happen...this guy will not be able to stick with NFL receivers without putting his hands all over him. Harmon reminds me of Wilson...not that big, not that fast, does a little bit of everything, but nothing really well. They both look like depth/special teams players to me at this point. Realistically that's all you can ask for in the third round without a little luck. 




    Bold font statement crossed my mind when I saw the second play on his VT youtube. 

     
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    In response to mthurl's comment:

    Honestly I don't think you can expect much out of a third rounder - let's face it most of them don't make it - so in the end it probably really doesn't matter much that it was a reach. I've watched both of these guys play - I think they are average football players that should of been drafted anywhere from the third round to the 6th. I think Ryan is a pass interference penalty waiting to happen...this guy will not be able to stick with NFL receivers without putting his hands all over him. Harmon reminds me of Wilson...not that big, not that fast, does a little bit of everything, but nothing really well. They both look like depth/special teams players to me at this point. Realistically that's all you can ask for in the third round without a little luck. 



    Re expectations for third rounders - Been posting this thought in various forms in a number of threads. I find it funny to get so bent out of shape about 'reach' in the third round when every player selected in that round is a prayer GMs are hoping gets answer. Reality - even the 'steals' in the third round have about a 1 in 10 chance of making a significant difference to a team. So if Harmon is a total bust it doesn't prove anything more than if he ends up in a pro-bowl would.

     
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    In response to jjdbrasil's comment: All four players from Rutgers,you forgot the last member from this years outgoing players Brandon Jones who only had 5 int's this past season, they say he's so skilled at swiping passes he actually looks like the intended receiver! How he wasn't drafted absolutely boggles my mind. Thank you Rutgers for sending all of your 4th ranked passing defense, also thank you Mel Kiper for not tipping off your buddy Ozzie Newsome as to how talented the Rutgers guys really were!!!! Here's his statline: 6'0" 193 4.5 40 last season 5 int's and 9 passes defended! The opposition only beat this team because their offense had major lapses. the scoop is he could actually play WR/DB and we all know by now the more positions you can play in the BB scheme of things the better your chances of survivng the hatchet man!!

     

     

     

    Since Harmon is NE's most controversial selection I thought I would see what was being said before the draft.  What made NE select Harmon in the 3rd round?  Here are some comments and observation on his play. Enjoy!

    http://davebreaksdownfilm.blogspot.com.br/

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1624721-new-england-patriots-in-defense-of-duron-harmon

    2013 NFLPA GAME AND PRACTICES

    -The safety group had some nice upside as well.  The most impressive of the safeties was Rutgers’ Duron Harmon.  He was easily the best athlete at the position and his breaking ability and fluid hips were very impressive.  He came in at 6-0 and 198 pounds and shows very good feet and explosiveness.  On one play during team he sprinted from the opposite hash to cover a drag route and came close to intercepting a pass thrown out in front of the receiver.  On another short hand off play he came flying up from about 12 yards deep to stick the running back at the line of scrimmage.  He definitely plays faster than his estimated 4.6 speed. http://www.optimumscouting.com/draft/articles/2013-nflpa-collegiate-bowl-scouting-recap.html

    Watched this game last year, better talent this year.  They are televising practices on ESPN, quick reports on what Bill Polian, McShay and Robert Smith said:  S Duron Harmon, RUT – very physical; solid in coverage  

    Rutgers free safety Duron Harmon will need to have a good game to help his draft stock. Harmon has had a good week of practices in which analysts felt he was very physical and could at the very least be a good special teams player while he develops. http://www.ninersnation.com/2013/1/19/3893288/nflpa-collegiate-bowl-2013-tv-schedule-draft-prospects-2013-nfl-draft

    http://nfldraftzone.com/draft-news/exclusive-interview-duron-harmon-db-rutgers-university/

    http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2013/01/2013-nfl-draft-potential-patriots-in-the-nflpa-collegiate-bowl.html

    Duron Harmon, SS, Rutgers - Scouts consider Harmon the best athlete at his position in this bowl game. There has been estimated 40 times for him around the 4.6 range, which is really slow. But scouts called him the most explosive defensive back at the NFLPA bowl, with great instincts. He plays faster than his “estimated” time.  http://proplayerinsiders.com/nflpa-bowl-players-that-could-be-on-the-washington-redskins-radar/

    Moving to the defensive backs, one who stood out was Rutgers' Duron Harmon. He has quick feet and showed that in the drills. He also showed much quicker feet than the other safeties. He was also better at diagnosing things earlier than others and was aggressive. He came up and stuck a guy. http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/blog/_/name/nfl_draft/id/8849484/2013-nfl-draft-qb-jordan-rodgers-shines-nflpa-practice

     




    I think it's important to mention all 3 players from Rutgers

     

    Logan Ryan, CB, 5-11, 191


    Duron Harmon, S, 6-1, 200


    Steve Beauharnais, ILB, 6-1, 240


    I'm thinking that BB will feel that they will communicate on the field better since they've played together before. If all 3 make the team, it will be interesting.

     




     

     
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    Re: Duron Harmon

    In response to Godvernment's comment:

    i'm one who shook my head at this pick, not because of the player, but the position. i felt NE would be strong at safety going into 2013. DMC has apparently found his home at FS after converting from CB mid-season. Tavon Wilson had a strong rookie year and is expected to get even better. signed A.Wilson. Gregory is entering only his 2nd year with NE after a solid, but unspectacular 2012 season. 

    with that said, the more i watch of Harmon, the more i like him as a player. especially what i saw in this video of him mic'd up in practice. he see his physique up close and he certainly looks the part if an NFL SS. he appears to be a leader of the secondary and even coaches up teammates as they run drills. 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=736rurngF4E



    Good stuff, Ricky.  Thanks for posting.

     
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    In response to Godvernment's comment:

    i'm one who shook my head at this pick, not because of the player, but the position. i felt NE would be strong at safety going into 2013. DMC has apparently found his home at FS after converting from CB mid-season. Tavon Wilson had a strong rookie year and is expected to get even better. signed A.Wilson. Gregory is entering only his 2nd year with NE after a solid, but unspectacular 2012 season. 

    with that said, the more i watch of Harmon, the more i like him as a player. especially what i saw in this video of him mic'd up in practice. he see his physique up close and he certainly looks the part if an NFL SS. he appears to be a leader of the secondary and even coaches up teammates as they run drills. 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=736rurngF4E

    I listened to all of the draft picks post draft interviews and none of them were in awe of playing for the Patriots and that alone will help them transition into the NFL. Ryan Logan gave major props to both of the other Rutgers guys drafted and even mentioned his relationship with DMac and Justin Francis these young guys are all well spoken, not one of them sounded like they were lacking mentally and physically they obviously were able to hold their own in the NCAA.  Who knows what level they will achieve, irregardless to whatever the Mel Kiper's of the world think, these guys can say to their grandchildren that they were chosen too play for an NFL team which in itself is a major accomplishment. I wish them all luck and hopefully their talents will bless the Patriots with great play for the next four years at least.

     

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