Ebert released

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    Re: Ebert released

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    In response to RidingWithTheKingII's comment:

     

    I see them keeping 6:

    Amendola

    Edelman

    Jones

    Dobson

    Boyce

    Slater

     

     




    Will have final comment after camp, but first observations;

     

    Boyce=practice squad

    Jones=still not cleared medically

    Only Edelman caught a pass from Brady last year.

    I did not say thin. I said thin, thin, thin.

     



    First observations after what exactly? Boyce won't make it to the practice squad. I think Boyce has a shot of starting over jones. Have you watched Boyce play? What bout Moe? These guys are gamers.

     
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    Re: Ebert released

    In response to Muzwell's comment:

    In response to RidingWithTheKingII's comment:

     

    I see them keeping 6:

    Amendola

    Edelman

    Jones

    Dobson

    Boyce

    Slater

     

     



    I see somebody being redshirted with a mysterious hamstring. Could be Boyce, or could be Moe. That guy seems interesting at 6' 204 and with great hands. I don't know if he'd make it to the PS?  

     



    He won't, and, I think he will be better than jones .

    i replace jones with moe on my list. 

     
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    Re: Ebert released

    In response to PatsLifer's comment:

    In response to Rkarp1's comment:

     

    In response to RidingWithTheKingII's comment:

     

    I see them keeping 6:

    Amendola

    Edelman

    Jones

    Dobson

    Boyce

    Slater

     

     




    Will have final comment after camp, but first observations;

     

    Boyce=practice squad

    Jones=still not cleared medically

    Only Edelman caught a pass from Brady last year.

    I did not say thin. I said thin, thin, thin.

     

     



    First observations after what exactly? Boyce won't make it to the practice squad. I think Boyce has a shot of starting over jones. Have you watched Boyce play? What bout Moe? These guys are gamers.

     



    first observations after talking to 3-4 people whose job it is to know if these guys can play or not. no final comments until after camp, but both rookie WR's have a long way to go. Not to say they wont get there, but give them 2-3 years.

    Tough offense to pick up. Tough QB to get on the same page with. Both rookies limited in college with routes. As with most rookies picked this low, they need a lot of work. 

    the guy most obviously ready to contribute is Jones, but no one knows if he is medically cleared...

    I also think Stallworth makes the team.

     
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    Re: Ebert released

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    We have Amdendola, Hernanez, A.Holmes, M.Jenkins, D.Jones, J.Edleman, M.Slater, A.Dobson, J.Boyce who are ALL better than he is, thats why

     

    This is a thin group?




    Not thin, but very inexperienced.  And I'm sure BB realizes there is no "Go To" WR on the team that will get you a crunch time catch when it's 3rd and 15.  In the past that guy might have been Troy Brown, Moss or Branch.  I don't expect them to bring Branch back but I'd be very surprised if they didn't bring in a vet who has actually caught some footballs.

     
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    Catfish - Amendola doesn't qualify as a vet? 

    And 3 or 4 people in the know sounds like the group around the water cooler or some guys that stayed at the Holiday Inn Express? Yes - rookies take sometime to get up to speed in the NFL no matter where they were drafted. Training camp helps. Coach and TB not having any choice in the matter but to play them helps. Drafting bright high IQ players helps too, and players who know how to put in the work and study the film. 

    And it really doesn't matter if you are a top ten pick or a pick in the 7th round or a UDFA - no college player has run an NFL route tree - so the learning curve is the same for a Larry Fitzgerald type and T.J. Moe. BUT you can draft guys that have learned to run precise routes in college - know how to make sharp cuts, set up DBs, etc. And from the reports on the two draftees and the UDFAs the Pats got those kind of players as opposed to the perhaps more physically gifted guys like Patterson who reported doesn't know these things.

    Remind me where Cruz was drafted? Didn't he have a pretty good rookie year?

    So ... Do I expect Moss 2.0 or Fitzgerald-light? No. But given the roster I expect some pretty decent production and the potential for a lot more.

    And maybe BB doesn't have a record on drafting WR, but he does now have McDaniels in the room who did OK out there in Denver of find valuable WR in the draft.

     
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    Why? Given the health issues of Jones, Edelman and Amendola, and the fact that Jenkins is washed up, why not take it thru camp and see how it plays out? Smart WR. Great hands. Not saying he makes the team but lets see how it plays out in camp? No?




    as long as it wasn't ebner..... Laughing

     
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    Catfish - Amendola doesn't qualify as a vet? 

    And 3 or 4 people in the know sounds like the group around the water cooler or some guys that stayed at the Holiday Inn Express? Yes - rookies take sometime to get up to speed in the NFL no matter where they were drafted. Training camp helps. Coach and TB not having any choice in the matter but to play them helps. Drafting bright high IQ players helps too, and players who know how to put in the work and study the film. 

    And it really doesn't matter if you are a top ten pick or a pick in the 7th round or a UDFA - no college player has run an NFL route tree - so the learning curve is the same for a Larry Fitzgerald type and T.J. Moe. BUT you can draft guys that have learned to run precise routes in college - know how to make sharp cuts, set up DBs, etc. And from the reports on the two draftees and the UDFAs the Pats got those kind of players as opposed to the perhaps more physically gifted guys like Patterson who reported doesn't know these things.

    Remind me where Cruz was drafted? Didn't he have a pretty good rookie year?

    So ... Do I expect Moss 2.0 or Fitzgerald-light? No. But given the roster I expect some pretty decent production and the potential for a lot more.

    And maybe BB doesn't have a record on drafting WR, but he does now have McDaniels in the room who did OK out there in Denver of find valuable WR in the draft.




    Amendola has 17 career starts, or roughly one full season.   Obviously he's missed a lot of time due to injuries.   The same can be said for Edelman.   I didn't criticize Cruz or say that some guys don't have very good rookie years.

    All I'm saying is BB won't go into the year without a more seasoned WR.

     
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