ESPN top 25 free agency rankings, 3 Pats in top 10

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    ESPN top 25 free agency rankings, 3 Pats in top 10

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8746362/nfl-top-25-free-agents-most-market-value-line-headed-season-final-stretch

    #5 - Welker

    #7 - Talib

    #10 - Vollmer

    5-6 more games like the last 3 and the Pats MUST keep Talib. If Welker is allowed to walk it better be b/c he got 8+ million per for 4+ years and we have a backup plan like Amendola at half the $ and not just banking on Edelman.

    Can we trust Vollmer to be healthy like he was this season for 3-4 more or will it be '11 again? Basically last year was a washout where he was healthy for like 6 games and finally showed up again for the super bowl and was terrible.

     
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    Here is the article. Realized it was an insider one. Its actually not a 'top free agents' article but rather a ranking of the elite guys who have the most on the line as the season winds down:

    1. Joe Flacco | QB | Current team: Baltimore Ravens

     

    He has started 77 of 77 possible NFL games, carries a 53-24 record as a starter, has a 98-55 career TD-INT ratio and won't turn 28 until January. So how is Flacco going to become an unrestricted free agent at a position where even the Romo-coaster won't be subjected to such an indignity? How high his ceiling extends is clearly a question, and the rest of the regular season will dictate dollars. Baltimore dumped offensive coordinator Cam Cameron and has the worst defense of Flacco's tenure. It all points to: "It's on you, Joe."

     

    Fit: Most would be shocked if he were anywhere but Baltimore next season.

     

     

    2. Mike Wallace | WR | Current team: Pittsburgh Steelers

     

    [+] EnlargeMike Wallace Joe Robbins/Getty ImagesMike Wallace needs to impress in the remainder of the season to increase his market value.

     

    He'll be an unrestricted free agent, and Wallace needs to finish strong. He's in the midst of his worst NFL season in terms of efficiency, has been the third-best WR on his own team a season after he was openly considered maybe the best in the game and has admitted he can "lose focus" at times. Not exactly the best selling points for his free-agency brochure. Wallace needs to treat the end of this season like an audition.

     

    Fit: Mark Sanchez loses excuses if his numbers stay flat with Wallace around in 2013.

     

    3. Ryan Clady | OT | Current team: Denver Broncos

     

    He has never missed a start 77 games into his NFL career and is among the top five left tackles in the game, and the QB he protects, Peyton Manning, gets the ball out so quickly that he's a joy to block for. So what does Clady have to play for? He's an unrestricted free agent and the top left tackle available, which means he could be headed for about $50 million in guarantees if he's fully healthy. In a league of players paranoid about health, Clady could be excused for playing in bubble wrap.

     

    Fit: Denver should make it work, but Arizona should offer stadium naming rights.

    4. Greg Jennings | WR | Current team: Green Bay Packers

     

    At 29, Jennings has never caught fewer than 45 passes in a season. So far in 2012, he has just 17 catches and has been sidelined for most of the season with an abdominal injury. With James Jones, Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb already around -- not to mention Jermichael Finley -- Green Bay likely won't beat out big offers for Jennings. But he needs to get back on the field and show something to draw interest. Now that he's practicing in full pads, we're about to gauge his market.

    Fit: Miami makes a lot of sense, but keep an eye on Detroit, which suddenly has legit questions about who will be No. 2 behind Calvin Johnson. Jennings grew up a Lions fan in Michigan.

     

    5. Wes Welker | WR | Current team: New England Patriots

     

    You could argue that teammate Sebastian Vollmer has more cash to play for (and likely will land the bigger deal), and you could argue that Welker is a creation of the system, an extended handoff for Tom Brady. But that the New England offense lost Rob Gronkowski and hasn't skipped a beat is a credit to Welker, who will reach 120-plus catches this season for the third time in his career. And, as an unrestricted free agent, he might be ready to prove he's more than a system creation.

     

    Fit: Clearly, it's New England, but Welker would be really interesting in Denver, Dallas or even Washington.

    6. Cliff Avril | DE | Current team: Detroit Lions

     

    He reportedly turned down three years and $30 million to accept the franchise tender of $10.6 and play for a bigger deal, but Avril needs to finish really strong if he wants big money. He has 9.5 sacks, but he benefits from great play elsewhere on the Detroit D-line, and he has just 18 hurries this season, per Pro Football Focus.

     

    Fit: Even with Jason Babin, Jacksonville could use another 4-3 DE and could afford Avril.

     

    7. Aqib Talib | CB | Current team: New England Patriots

     

    He has a ton of talent and a history of off-field problems, but if Talib can finish strong for the Patriots, not only does he create a market for himself with New England but he could draw interest from all over the league. This is a guy who is quite literally playing for a job as an unrestricted free agent at age 26.

     

    Fit: Even less total money might be more appealing if the offer is from the Patriots.

     

    8. Jairus Byrd | S | Current team: Buffalo Bills

     

    He's not a star, but maybe he should be. Byrd has a Pro Bowl under his belt, as well as a season when he led the NFL in interceptions. Plus, Pro Football Focus has him rated as the top cover safety in the NFL. He'll be an unrestricted free agent in a market that's short on impact at the safety position. Byrd also will have a history of good health; if he finishes this season, he'll have played in 48 consecutive games. If he stays healthy, he'll be in line for a huge deal.

     

    Fit: Dallas could desperately use a safety who covers this well. But so could Detroit, New Orleans, the Jets and maybe even Pittsburgh.

     

    9. Danny Amendola | WR | Current team: St. Louis Rams

     

    Dangerously close to attaining the "fragile" label, Amendola could be back for the last few weeks, and he will want to be able to walk into unrestricted free agency with full health. He caught 85 passes in 2010 and profiles as an unbearded Wes Welker. If Amendola can stay healthy, St. Louis has every reason to keep him around. But, as lemon economics teaches us, if the Rams don't make a big push to retain him, it'll be instructive for the market as a whole. The last few games matter.

     

    Fit: St. Louis is a great fit, but what if he becomes a cheaper replacement for Welker in New England?

     

    [+] EnlargeSebastian Vollmer Icon SMISebastian Vollmer has played well this season and could get major money -- from the Pats or others.

     

    10. Sebastian Vollmer | OT | Current team: New England Patriots

     

    The Patriots have their future at left tackle in Nate Solder and might not be willing to go big on a deal to keep Vollmer, a right tackle who missed the bulk of 2011 to injury. But if he finishes strong -- and New England opts to devote free-agency resources elsewhere -- Vollmer could get big money after what has been a very good season.

     

    Fits: Indy, Chicago, Arizona and Dallas should all pick up the phone.

     

    The next 10

     

    11. Randy Starks | DT | Current team: Miami Dolphins

     

    You don't find many good defensive tackles available in free agency, but Starks qualifies, and he has missed just one start since Week 1 in 2009. Carolina would be a good fit.

     

    12. Michael Bennett | DE | Current team: Tampa Bay Buccaneers

     

    He has 9.0 sacks, and cracking double digits could get this unrestricted free agent some extra scratch. New Orleans would be a good system fit.

     

    13. Dashon Goldson | S | Current team: San Francisco 49ers

     

    How much can the Niners spend to keep this defense together? They might let Goldson go, and the 2011 Pro Bowl participant will get looks. Carolina should call.

     

    14. Reggie Bush | RB | Current team: Miami Dolphins

     

    This isn't a ranking of best free agents, but Bush belongs here because, if he can stay healthy for a few more games, it'll be the difference between multiple bids versus just hoping to land somewhere. Almost any offense can use a player with his diversity of skills, and he's underrated as an inside runner. How about a change-of-pace complement to Trent Richardson in Cleveland?

     

    15. Victor Cruz | WR | Current team: New York Giants

     

    He's a restricted free agent, and the Giants won't let him go anywhere. But how he finishes, and his end-of-season health status, could help determine in what manner the Giants compensate him going forward.

     

    16. Branden Albert | OT | Current team: Kansas City Chiefs

     

    He's no star, but he might be the third- or fourth-best tackle on the market, and he's been healthy throughout his career, although recent back issues have slowed him down. A strong finish without questions about his back will improve his market.

     

    Dwayne Bowe AP Photo/AJ MastDwayne Bowe won't play this week, and his market value is very much up in the air.

     

    17. Dwayne Bowe | WR | Current team: Kansas City Chiefs

     

    He's way down on this list because he likely won't be back in the lineup this season. He has a lot on the line, however, because the play of Jon Baldwin could help determine how much K.C. is willing to offer to keep him around.

     

    18. Jake Long | OT | Current team: Miami Dolphins

     

    He might be headed for injured reserve, which is a shame because it could mean the end of his tenure in Miami. The development of rookie Jonathan Martin could make the perennial Pro Bowler expendable. If he's fully healthy, his phone will be ringing.

     

    19. Steven Jackson | RB | Current team: St. Louis Rams

     

    If he finishes the season healthy, there could be a market for Jackson and the Rams could bring him back. If he gets hurt, he might have to move on. How about working in with Doug Martin in Tampa when LeGarrette Blount moves on?

     

    20. Chris Houston | CB | Current team: Detroit Lions

     

    He might be the best available corner on the market, and the Lions could choose to franchise him, given the state of their secondary. But if they want to franchise elsewhere, if Houston can finish well (and healthy), he'll have a robust market.

     

    Five more

     

    21. Andy Levitre | G | Current team: Buffalo Bills

     

    22. Henry Melton | DT | Current team: Chicago Bears

     

    23. Brian Hartline | WR | Current team: Miami Dolphins

     

    24. Erin Henderson | LB | Current team: Minnesota Vikings

     

    25. Jermon Bushrod | OT |Current team: New Orleans Saints

     

     
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    I'd love to weaken the Bills by taking Byrd and Levitre away from them... replace Chung with Byrd (big upgrade) making the Byrd/McCourty duo likely the best cover safety combo in the game.

    Levitre would be that rock at LG we've been looking for since Waters left...and practically every year but the one we had Waters. Connolly would move back to C and a bu guard and the draft could be spent on other needs, not the O-line (assuming Vollmer stays or is replaced in FA).

     
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    Throw the franchise tag on Vollmer. 

     
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    In response to Patsman3's comment:

    Throw the franchise tag on Vollmer. 




    That makes a lot of sense. This team just worked around a 1 year franchise of Welker for around 9.5 million. To franchise an O-lineman its around that, prob closer to 8-9. Welker would be up around 11 to franchise 2 years in a row and Talib will cost over 10 when a long-term deal around 6-7 per year (maybe just 3-4m in '13) could be worked out.

    Make Vollmer stay healthy for 2 years in a row, then decide what to do. He is also very old for the years he has been in the league, 28 already. He will be 29 after a year of playing on the tag, Mankins was 29 when he signed his extension and the 6/51 with 20m guaranteed is likely what Vollmer would command with 2 strong seasons in a row. 

     

     
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    In response to rameakap's comment:

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8746362/nfl-top-25-free-agents-most-market-value-line-headed-season-final-stretch

    #5 - Welker

    #7 - Talib

    #10 - Vollmer

    5-6 more games like the last 3 and the Pats MUST keep Talib. If Welker is allowed to walk it better be b/c he got 8+ million per for 4+ years and we have a backup plan like Amendola at half the $ and not just banking on Edelman.

    Can we trust Vollmer to be healthy like he was this season for 3-4 more or will it be '11 again? Basically last year was a washout where he was healthy for like 6 games and finally showed up again for the super bowl and was terrible.



    rame where you been, ive missed our thoughtfull and intelligent conversations about patriot football.

    i have been posing the same questions with others on the draft thread about bb deciding if vollmers back will hinder his play and games palyed through his career or not.

    before talib arrived in n.e., i hoped we go to man wiht dennard and talib and get more agressive with the de. to my pleasant astonishment, we have doen so and the de looks in rare form and i believe, with health, could also improve. after talibs 1st game, i hoped and would have attempted to extend talib while he was happy to jsut be in the laegue still, never mind with a supe rbowl team. i said then if we let him show how good and valuable he can be, he might get self confident and feel he should go make top money wherever the top $ is.

    re welker started a couple threads the past couple weeks. did you see last week, bb having a lot of leverage to get welker to come down in his demands (hall of fame if he stays and continues same for another 3 years, yearly sb contention,. staying with his buddy and on the field connector brady, not having to start to create somenting all over again, etc.). id liek to offer him 5 years 2 guaranteed (keep him as long as he stays in top form) around 6 or up to 7 per.

    talib may be the most important of the 3 (least replaceable) though i want a behavior based adn gaems played based contract 4 years, team option for 5.

    though if we wave bye to vollmer i wonder if we get long for right tackle.

    and woudl have to replace welker if he left. 

     
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    Re: ESPN top 25 free agency rankings, 3 Pats in top 10

    In response to rameakap's comment:

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8746362/nfl-top-25-free-agents-most-market-value-line-headed-season-final-stretch

    #5 - Welker

    #7 - Talib

    #10 - Vollmer

    5-6 more games like the last 3 and the Pats MUST keep Talib. If Welker is allowed to walk it better be b/c he got 8+ million per for 4+ years and we have a backup plan like Amendola at half the $ and not just banking on Edelman.

    Can we trust Vollmer to be healthy like he was this season for 3-4 more or will it be '11 again? Basically last year was a washout where he was healthy for like 6 games and finally showed up again for the super bowl and was terrible.



    we need a starting safety opposite mccourty in free agency. 

    i would be on the phone to byrd and goldson, see who might want to be a patritot for less than top dollar (but still good money). our secondary starters woudl be set with talib, dennard at corner; mcc and gholson/bird at safety.

    pickup a wilfork 2.0, a jones 2.0 and a dominant c/g and we are set. 

    (after resigning welker and vollmer [or repacing him if back is going ot be a career issue])

    in the 7th rd or in udfa, we need a tall outside wr who can get separation.

     
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    I'd love to weaken the Bills by taking Byrd and Levitre away from them... replace Chung with Byrd (big upgrade) making the Byrd/McCourty duo likely the best cover safety combo in the game.

    Levitre would be that rock at LG we've been looking for since Waters left...and practically every year but the one we had Waters. Connolly would move back to C and a bu guard and the draft could be spent on other needs, not the O-line (assuming Vollmer stays or is replaced in FA).



    were thinking the same on byrd.

    your o line move removes one of my draft needs 

     
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    Throw the franchise tag on Vollmer. 

    hey patsman,

    resign welker, contract talib, and i would prefer a cheaper per year contract than the tag, but if necessary, yes tag vollmer. anothe year to see if his health holds up and if not,. draft a tackle a year from this april.

     
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    Throw the franchise tag on Vollmer. 




    That makes a lot of sense. This team just worked around a 1 year franchise of Welker for around 9.5 million. To franchise an O-lineman its around that, prob closer to 8-9. Welker would be up around 11 to franchise 2 years in a row and Talib will cost over 10 when a long-term deal around 6-7 per year (maybe just 3-4m in '13) could be worked out.

    Make Vollmer stay healthy for 2 years in a row, then decide what to do. He is also very old for the years he has been in the league, 28 already. He will be 29 after a year of playing on the tag, Mankins was 29 when he signed his extension and the 6/51 with 20m guaranteed is likely what Vollmer would command with 2 strong seasons in a row. 

     



    "Make Vollmer stay healthy for 2 years in a row, then decide what to do."

    as usual we are on the same wavelength.

     
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    Throw the franchise tag on Vollmer. 

    hey patsman,

    resign welker, contract talib, and i would prefer a cheaper per year contract than the tag, but if necessary, yes tag vollmer. anothe year to see if his health holds up and if not,. draft a tackle a year from this april.




    Well you know there gonna tag someone, they do every year.  Not sure but can teams actually tag two people now.  I am completley clueless on what the market will be for Talib.  I mean pretty much no one wanted him when the Pats picked him up.  He still carries that off-the field baggage with him. 

     
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    Re: ESPN top 25 free agency rankings, 3 Pats in top 10

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    In response to Patsman3's comment:

    Throw the franchise tag on Vollmer. 




    That makes a lot of sense. This team just worked around a 1 year franchise of Welker for around 9.5 million. To franchise an O-lineman its around that, prob closer to 8-9. Welker would be up around 11 to franchise 2 years in a row and Talib will cost over 10 when a long-term deal around 6-7 per year (maybe just 3-4m in '13) could be worked out.

    Make Vollmer stay healthy for 2 years in a row, then decide what to do. He is also very old for the years he has been in the league, 28 already. He will be 29 after a year of playing on the tag, Mankins was 29 when he signed his extension and the 6/51 with 20m guaranteed is likely what Vollmer would command with 2 strong seasons in a row. 

     



    Exactly. Make Vollmer stay healthy two years in a row (or at least see if he can). Vollmer is the Devil you know - they get to see him practice, they see him in the training roon, they know the situation injury wise with him...safest bet either way they go.

    Welker is a touchy subject, on one hand how do you replace 120 catches? On the other, how do pay a guy that is going to be 32 long term at huge dollars? You really can't, I don't think they will. If they were willing to do that they would of done it last year. I've got to think they feel like Edelman will give them something (although I think he is an injury waiting to happen), plus they have two tight ends that can give you things in the same general area Welker does. They could always pay another guy a lot less money to play the slot or they could draft  a wideout in the first three rounds. Christ! They can resign Salas this off season and hope he can give you 60 catches. I love Welker and I seriously would love to see him get 120 catches a year for the next five years, but it's not going to happen (and it sure won't happen anywhere else either).    

     
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    Again, like in most years, the best free agents available are our own; sign or extend all three.

     
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    Re: ESPN top 25 free agency rankings, 3 Pats in top 10

    Hopefully we can get Talib at a good price but Vollmer and Welker are probable going to cost top dollar.

     
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    Re: ESPN top 25 free agency rankings, 3 Pats in top 10

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    Throw the franchise tag on Vollmer. 

    hey patsman,

    resign welker, contract talib, and i would prefer a cheaper per year contract than the tag, but if necessary, yes tag vollmer. anothe year to see if his health holds up and if not,. draft a tackle a year from this april.




    Well you know there gonna tag someone, they do every year.  Not sure but can teams actually tag two people now.  I am completley clueless on what the market will be for Talib.  I mean pretty much no one wanted him when the Pats picked him up.  He still carries that off-the field baggage with him. 



    if he kills it rest of year like he has, big market.

    you can have behavior clause in his c=ontrat to get out of if you need to.

    1 tag.

     
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    If vollmer is healthy and that is a big IF he needs to be priority #1. You build teams with a QB then from the inside out.



    i ay talib is #1

    vollmer only if his back is not a weekly issue #2

    we can always draft or get fa tackle.

    a cb to do what talib is doing, our drafty track record is horrendous.

     
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    Throw the franchise tag on Vollmer. 




    That makes a lot of sense. This team just worked around a 1 year franchise of Welker for around 9.5 million. To franchise an O-lineman its around that, prob closer to 8-9. Welker would be up around 11 to franchise 2 years in a row and Talib will cost over 10 when a long-term deal around 6-7 per year (maybe just 3-4m in '13) could be worked out.

    Make Vollmer stay healthy for 2 years in a row, then decide what to do. He is also very old for the years he has been in the league, 28 already. He will be 29 after a year of playing on the tag, Mankins was 29 when he signed his extension and the 6/51 with 20m guaranteed is likely what Vollmer would command with 2 strong seasons in a row. 

     



    Exactly. Make Vollmer stay healthy two years in a row (or at least see if he can). Vollmer is the Devil you know - they get to see him practice, they see him in the training roon, they know the situation injury wise with him...safest bet either way they go.

    Welker is a touchy subject, on one hand how do you replace 120 catches? On the other, how do pay a guy that is going to be 32 long term at huge dollars? You really can't, I don't think they will. If they were willing to do that they would of done it last year. I've got to think they feel like Edelman will give them something (although I think he is an injury waiting to happen), plus they have two tight ends that can give you things in the same general area Welker does. They could always pay another guy a lot less money to play the slot or they could draft  a wideout in the first three rounds. Christ! They can resign Salas this off season and hope he can give you 60 catches. I love Welker and I seriously would love to see him get 120 catches a year for the next five years, but it's not going to happen (and it sure won't happen anywhere else either).    



    this team has proven without welker this year it stalls.

    i was willing to replace and walk aaway in offseason if wes ddint come way down in demands. 

    after this year, i say you use the bargaining power we have to get something reasonable with only a coupl eyears guaranteed,

     
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    Re: ESPN top 25 free agency rankings, 3 Pats in top 10

    In response to RockScully's comment:

    Hmm. I don't see any of the mass array of Jets FAs on this list. Wonder why?



    Jets only have two talented players on their roster, Mangold and Revis. JetMangione was warned but he didn't listen.

     
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    I say we lock up Talib, ASAP!!! Best CB we've had since Ty Law. 

     
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    Re: ESPN top 25 free agency rankings, 3 Pats in top 10

    In response to Patsman3's comment:

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    Throw the franchise tag on Vollmer. 

    hey patsman,

    resign welker, contract talib, and i would prefer a cheaper per year contract than the tag, but if necessary, yes tag vollmer. anothe year to see if his health holds up and if not,. draft a tackle a year from this april.




    Well you know there gonna tag someone, they do every year.  Not sure but can teams actually tag two people now.  I am completley clueless on what the market will be for Talib.  I mean pretty much no one wanted him when the Pats picked him up.  He still carries that off-the field baggage with him. 



    The Patriots traded for him. Not like he was on the waiver wire or a FA

     
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