Explain the ball f. progress ruling on this play

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    I see...  back to that challenge argument since you have been bludgeoned to a pulp on the other one...  B'BYE...

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    Oh silly boy, it's all the same discussion.  If it was anything but accurate, Belichick would have thrown the flag.  Contrary to some dummy's belief, how often Bill throws the flag vs how often other coaches do has nothing to do with Geno reaching out for the first down.

     
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    HAHAHAHA ...You're just continuing your stupidity and you don't even know it ... LMAO..!!!

     

    totally irrelevant that he hasn't touched the ground (unless he could have miraculously reached back to the field of play and downed the ball on the "green Part of the field youknow inbounds...DUMBsh1t... ??)    

    What the video and your picture also show is Genos entire upper body is out of bounds, meaning before he started his lunge the ball held in front of him was already out of bounds,  since his feet are inches from the sideline...

    This means the correct mark if they had the view angle right and the time to figure it out would have been near where genos feet were....  AT THE 12!!!!   The refs blew it by 2 full yards...!

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    You are just so wrong it isn't even funny!

     
  3. You have chosen to ignore posts from rtuinila. Show rtuinila's posts

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    What am I missing here? This is what the rule quoted above says:

     "Ordinarily the out-of-bounds spot is the spot where the ball crossed a sideline." 

    Then it goes on to list some exceptions, none of which came into play in the Smith play. Obviously a player can extend the ball out of bounds and bring it back in as when he touches the pylon, as long as he remains in bounds (and he's not down by contact), but if he never brings it back, it's spotted where it crossed the sideline. There's no different rule at the goal line.

    I think you guys are overcomplicating this.

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    I believe the "where the ball crosses the sideline" is in reference to when it is not in the possesion of a ball carrier ie: during a fumble, kick off or punt.

     
  4. You have chosen to ignore posts from rtuinila. Show rtuinila's posts

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    rtuinila had the best example.   You could run the entire length of the field (before the goal line) with your feet in bounds, holding the ball over the end line.  You'd still be in bounds and the play is not dead.

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    fine .... since he didnt go out of bounds .  But when you do go OB, the ball comes back to wher it crossed the sideline plane.

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    No it doesn't. It goes to where the ball was when the a part of the players body hits the ground out of bounds. Just like it goes to where the ball is when a ball carriers knee hits the ground.

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    yes it does.

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    Wrong again little man!

     
  5. You have chosen to ignore posts from digger0862. Show digger0862's posts

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    Somebody call Mike Pereira.

     
  6. You have chosen to ignore posts from coolade2. Show coolade2's posts

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    rtuinila had the best example.   You could run the entire length of the field (before the goal line) with your feet in bounds, holding the ball over the end line.  You'd still be in bounds and the play is not dead.

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    fine .... since he didnt go out of bounds .  But when you do go OB, the ball comes back to wher it crossed the sideline plane.

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    No it doesn't. It goes to where the ball was when the a part of the players body hits the ground out of bounds. Just like it goes to where the ball is when a ball carriers knee hits the ground.

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    yes it does.

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    Wrong again little man!

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    agree with digger ...   Get someone to spell it out in little words for your little brain.   Since you can't even grasp common sense... 

     
  7. You have chosen to ignore posts from coolade2. Show coolade2's posts

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    HAHAHAHA ...You're just continuing your stupidity and you don't even know it ... LMAO..!!!

     

    totally irrelevant that he hasn't touched the ground (unless he could have miraculously reached back to the field of play and downed the ball on the "green Part of the field youknow inbounds...DUMBsh1t... ??)    

    What the video and your picture also show is Genos entire upper body is out of bounds, meaning before he started his lunge the ball held in front of him was already out of bounds,  since his feet are inches from the sideline...

    This means the correct mark if they had the view angle right and the time to figure it out would have been near where genos feet were....  AT THE 12!!!!   The refs blew it by 2 full yards...!

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    You are just so wrong it isn't even funny!

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    Explain your version of the rule again,  or I can copy it... lol  .  something about leaping players jumping into the sidelines to gain more yards...? 

     

     

    LAUGHING MY AZS OFF,  you are so stupid.

     
  8. You have chosen to ignore posts from MeadowlandMike. Show MeadowlandMike's posts

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    HAHAHAHA ...You're just continuing your stupidity and you don't even know it ... LMAO..!!!

     

    totally irrelevant that he hasn't touched the ground (unless he could have miraculously reached back to the field of play and downed the ball on the "green Part of the field youknow inbounds...DUMBsh1t... ??)    

    What the video and your picture also show is Genos entire upper body is out of bounds, meaning before he started his lunge the ball held in front of him was already out of bounds,  since his feet are inches from the sideline...

    This means the correct mark if they had the view angle right and the time to figure it out would have been near where genos feet were....  AT THE 12!!!!   The refs blew it by 2 full yards...!

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    You are just so wrong it isn't even funny!

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    Explain your version of the rule again,  or I can copy it... lol  .  something about leaping players jumping into the sidelines to gain more yards...? 

     

     

    LAUGHING MY AZS OFF,  you are so stupid.

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    Your ignorance of where the ball should be spotted when a player lunges forward before touching out of bounds  does not make others stupid.  It seems that all you can do after being unable to answer why Bill did not challenge the spot is to hurl insults.  That is what is known as being a typical Pats fan.

     
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    What theF" is this anyway...?  

    The title of the thread is not  " evrybody be dumb as rocks forcing coolade to explain the rules after 4 pages of analysis and clarification....!"

     
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    17- zip buffalo ...lol.

     
  11. You have chosen to ignore posts from MeadowlandMike. Show MeadowlandMike's posts

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    What theF" is this anyway...?  

    The title of the thread is not  " evrybody be dumb as rocks forcing coolade to explain the rules after 4 pages of analysis and clarification....!"

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    Must be hard to explain what you don't understand

     
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    What theF" is this anyway...?  

    The title of the thread is not  " evrybody be dumb as rocks forcing coolade to explain the rules after 4 pages of analysis and clarification....!"

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    Must be hard to explain what you don't understand

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    The Jets are playing right now, yet you are posting on a patriots forum....how sad.

     
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    This a whole lot to do about nothing, even if he hadn't got it, Ryan would have gone for it on fourth and inches and would have gotten it, no Wilfork, no Kelly, no problem...

    I think BB thought the loss of a timeout was more important if the evidence didn't overturn the call.  Who cares?  What happens from this point forward is all that matters and the Jests season is already over even if their fans are too dumb to realize it.

     
  14. You have chosen to ignore posts from MeadowlandMike. Show MeadowlandMike's posts

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    What theF" is this anyway...?  

    The title of the thread is not  " evrybody be dumb as rocks forcing coolade to explain the rules after 4 pages of analysis and clarification....!"

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    Must be hard to explain what you don't understand

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    The Jets are playing right now, yet you are posting on a patriots forum....how sad.

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    Yes, completely sad that it's not being shown here. Dummy.

     
  15. You have chosen to ignore posts from AyyyBoston. Show AyyyBoston's posts

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    What theF" is this anyway...?  

    The title of the thread is not  " evrybody be dumb as rocks forcing coolade to explain the rules after 4 pages of analysis and clarification....!"

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    Must be hard to explain what you don't understand

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    The Jets are playing right now, yet you are posting on a patriots forum....how sad.

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    Yes, completely sad that it's not being shown here. Dummy.

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    And yet you are still arguing with Pats fans instead of discussing the game with Jets fans, or doing something else that is more productive (certainly, you must have something?). By the way, online streams do exist, even if they are not the best.

    Then again, you do seem a bit slow. 

     

     
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    What theF" is this anyway...?  

    The title of the thread is not  " evrybody be dumb as rocks forcing coolade to explain the rules after 4 pages of analysis and clarification....!"

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    Must be hard to explain what you don't understand

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    The Jets are playing right now, yet you are posting on a patriots forum....how sad.

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    Yes, completely sad that it's not being shown here. Dummy.

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    And yet you are still arguing with Pats fans instead of discussing the game with Jets fans, or doing something else that is more productive (certainly, you must have something?). By the way, online streams do exist, even if they are not the best.

    Then again, you do seem a bit slow. 

     

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    Your inability to do only one thing at a time is not my concern.  Why don't you join your fellow Pats fans and cry about how unfair it all is.

     
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    ^^Lol, cute backpedal. Keep trying.

     
  18. You have chosen to ignore posts from MeadowlandMike. Show MeadowlandMike's posts

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    ^^Lol, cute backpedal. Keep trying.

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    Seems as though you don't know what backpedal means.  Why don't you explain as to what it is that you think I am backpedaling from.  

     
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    ^^Lol, cute backpedal. Keep trying.

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    Seems as though you don't know what backpedal means.  Why don't you explain as to what it is that you think I am backpedaling from.  

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    HAHAHAHA ...You're just continuing your stupidity and you don't even know it ... LMAO..!!!

     

    totally irrelevant that he hasn't touched the ground (unless he could have miraculously reached back to the field of play and downed the ball on the "green Part of the field youknow inbounds...DUMBsh1t... ??)    

    What the video and your picture also show is Genos entire upper body is out of bounds, meaning before he started his lunge the ball held in front of him was already out of bounds,  since his feet are inches from the sideline...

    This means the correct mark if they had the view angle right and the time to figure it out would have been near where genos feet were....  AT THE 12!!!!   The refs blew it by 2 full yards...!

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    You are just so wrong it isn't even funny!

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    Explain your version of the rule again,  or I can copy it... lol  .  something about leaping players jumping into the sidelines to gain more yards...? 

     

     

    LAUGHING MY AZS OFF,  you are so stupid.

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    Your ignorance of where the ball should be spotted when a player lunges forward before touching out of bounds  does not make others stupid.  It seems that all you can do after being unable to answer why Bill did not challenge the spot is to hurl insults.  That is what is known as being a typical Pats fan.

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    As opposed to the typically highly enlightened NY Jets fan? If ever there was a contradiction in terms.........

    BTW - since yours in the superior intellect, how about a little in game analysis of your NY Jets?

     
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    lets start over....lol...

     Explain the ball f. progress ruling on this play...

    It's hard to tell but it looks like Geno is in bounds and was never down until the ball touched the ground out of bounds. It may have been the correct call.



    "Now that I see the play, it was ruled correctly. "     WRONG.

    ...  ok ...explanation of rule of spotting  ball  begins here...  Please only people  who are quoting the rule book or know the rule like the back oftheir hand.  Muzwell and I clarified it earlier but there are still some who disagree...  IT IS A RULE.  There should be no dispute.

     

     
  22. You have chosen to ignore posts from MeadowlandMike. Show MeadowlandMike's posts

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    lets start over....lol...

     Explain the ball f. progress ruling on this play...

    It's hard to tell but it looks like Geno is in bounds and was never down until the ball touched the ground out of bounds. It may have been the correct call.



    "Now that I see the play, it was ruled correctly. "     WRONG.

    ...  ok ...explanation of rule of spotting  ball  begins here...  Please only people  who are quoting the rule book or know the rule like the back oftheir hand.  Muzwell and I clarified it earlier but there are still some who disagree...  IT IS A RULE.  There should be no dispute.

     

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    Right call. Learn the rules. Stop crying about calls from many games ago.  Still waiting on your answer about why Bill didn't throw the flag on a key play worth 4 points.

     
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    lets start over....lol...

     Explain the ball f. progress ruling on this play...

    It's hard to tell but it looks like Geno is in bounds and was never down until the ball touched the ground out of bounds. It may have been the correct call.



    "Now that I see the play, it was ruled correctly. "     WRONG.

    ...  ok ...explanation of rule of spotting  ball  begins here...  Please only people  who are quoting the rule book or know the rule like the back oftheir hand.  Muzwell and I clarified it earlier but there are still some who disagree...  IT IS A RULE.  There should be no dispute.

     

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    Right call. Learn the rules. Stop crying about calls from many games ago.  Still waiting on your answer about why Bill didn't throw the flag on a key play worth 4 points.

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    And we are still waiting for your expert analysis of today's NY Jets game..........

     
  24. You have chosen to ignore posts from coolade2. Show coolade2's posts

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    meat-headland mike is still here ...  everybody.  What a complete tool...! Hanging around another teams board getting humiliated...lol...  What a little dink troll...lol...

     
  25. You have chosen to ignore posts from rtuinila. Show rtuinila's posts

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    The rule again:

    The Inbounds Spot is a spot 70 feet 9 inches in from the sideline on the yard line passing through the spot where the ball or a runner is out of bounds between the goal lines.

     

    You don't have an inbounds spot until the player or the ball goes out of bounds.  And the player (or ball in possession of the player) isn't out of bounds until the player touches down out of bounds.  While he's extended over the sideline, he's still inbounds. 

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    Well, you clearly have a different take on what is a fairly clear rule, in my opinion at least. Here's my take and I'll end my contribution to this thread here (because it's getting tedious).

    The moment the runner contacts the ground OB, the play is dead and the ball is obviously dead as well. The ball is spotted at the place where it is, if it's still inbounds at that moment, or at the place it crossed the sideline if it's OB. A runner simply cannot leap like Bob Beamon across the sideline and gain five yards or so just because he hasn't yet touched the ground. That is unless he can somehow do that and keep the ball inbounds.

    That's why they have a pylon. There's not a different rule at the goal line. The ball has to be inbounds to get credit for the yardage.

    That's why you see players reach around the first down marker inbounds. If they could do that OB, they would. It would be a lot easier.

     

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    Wrong Muzz, they have a pylon because in the olden days, the goaline was considered to extend all the way around the earth and as long as the player hadn't gone out of bounds before the ball crossed that line, it was scored as a touchdown. They changed that rule back in the 70's I think. So since they can't bring the ball back into the field of play inside the endzone, they have to bring it back to where the ball went out of bounds.

     
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