Exploring: The Drop.
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Exploring: The Drop.
posted at 5/17/2012 2:33 PM EDT
- BabeParilli
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How in hell do you not catch this ball?
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Re: Exploring: The Drop.
posted at 5/17/2012 2:35 PM EDT
- glenr
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Babe's Brady excuse # 1 million. Tell us again why safeties and INTs don't matter and there was never such a thing as an offense running the clock down. -
Re: Exploring: The Drop.
posted at 5/17/2012 2:40 PM EDT
- BabeParilli
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In Response to Re: Exploring: The Drop.:Babe's Brady excuse # 1 million. Tell us again why safeties and INTs don't matter and there was never such a thing as an offense running the clock down.
Posted by glenr
Came to boggle our minds with your football brilliance I see, Rusty. So, you think this pic shows the ball was uncatchable Einstein? -
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Re: Exploring: The Drop.
posted at 5/17/2012 2:45 PM EDT
- TheSalmon
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Almost had a new contract there.
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Re: Exploring: The Drop.
posted at 5/17/2012 2:45 PM EDT
- BubbaInHawaii
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what drop, it was a poorly thrown ball....lol -
Re: Exploring: The Drop.
posted at 5/17/2012 2:49 PM EDT
- MoreRings
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Still stings. Should have been caught. -
Re: Exploring: The Drop.
posted at 5/17/2012 2:49 PM EDT
- Bergzilla
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The old addage says thata if the ball hits you in the hands you should catch it. I bet that ball had a bit more rotation than welker is used to... I think he did a medium loft into the area. Usually Welker gets a hard spiral into the numbers. Hell of an adjustment, mid-air going backwards switching from inside shoulder to outside shoulder. I bet everyone of us drops that ball too. He probably needed bigger hands...Moss would have caught that. -
Re: Exploring: The Drop.
posted at 5/17/2012 2:56 PM EDT
- CaptainZdeno33
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I'd rather explore dropping an anvil on your head for continuing to post about this game. -
Re: Exploring: The Drop.
posted at 5/17/2012 2:57 PM EDT
- Bustchise
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Babe - I don't know of anyone that thinks Welker should not have caught that ball, including Welker himself as he has said repeatedly. But hey, the guy has been clutch for us. Guys like that are allowed a mistake now and then. Unfortunately, it seems like he is being punished for it now by the powers that be. -
Re: Exploring: The Drop.
posted at 5/17/2012 3:24 PM EDT
- DoNotSleepOnThePats
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Brandon Lloyd will catch that. That dude catches everything. -
Re: Exploring: The Drop.
posted at 5/17/2012 3:37 PM EDT
- PetesCall
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Welker is great, but @ $9.5M, the ball's gotta be caught. -
Re: Exploring: The Drop.
posted at 5/17/2012 3:39 PM EDT
- pcmIV
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In Response to Re: Exploring: The Drop.:I'd rather explore dropping an anvil on your head for continuing to post about this game.
Posted by CaptainZdeno33
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Re: Exploring: The Drop.
posted at 5/17/2012 3:43 PM EDT
- pcmIV
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Seriously though I would be willing to bet that if you took a list of the greatest catches of all time (however you want to define them) you could probably find a single frame that made them look routine or at the very least easier than they actually were. I think Wes should have caught it, but that image is a bit misleading imo. -
Re: Exploring: The Drop.
posted at 5/17/2012 3:45 PM EDT
- AZPAT
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In Response to Exploring: The Drop.:How in hell do you not catch this ball?
Posted by BabeParilli
I see your point......
Wide open WR; pass badly and unnecessarilly overthrown,; said WR jumping and falling backwards while running in a different direction failing to secure the ball with his fingertips.....
Who's idea was it to franchise this pitiful excuse of a WR? -
Re: Exploring: The Drop.
posted at 5/17/2012 3:48 PM EDT
- nyjoseph
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Babe,
New information has come out.
On the previous play TB threw a pass to Deion Branch on the Giants sideline. Before the ball was put back in play a foreign substance was introduced to the ball. (I'm not accusing the Giants of anything here, but let's just say that lots goes on behind NFL benches).
On the next play TB was able to move around in the pocket with the ball in his hands because the substance is inert until the ball takes flight.
By the time the ball came down to WW it would have been like trying to catch a meteorite. Thankfully he was wearing gloves or the impact could have been horrific. If you roll the tape you'll notice he pounds the turf and puts his hands to his helmet in every effort to lessen the heat. Had he held onto the ball and ran for even 5 yards or so he may have suffered third degree burns and missed part of the coming season.
I think this puts things in a new light and puts this behind us once and for all. -
Re: Exploring: The Drop.
posted at 5/17/2012 3:50 PM EDT
- pcmIV
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In Response to Re: Exploring: The Drop.:Babe, New information has come out. On the previous play TB threw a pass to Deion Branch on the Giants sideline. Before the ball was put back in play a foreign substance was introduced to the ball. (I'm not accusing the Giants of anything here, but let's just say that lots goes on behind NFL benches). On the next play TB was able to move around in the pocket with the ball in his hands because the substance is inert until the ball takes flight. By the time the ball came down to WW it would have been like trying to catch a meteorite. Thankfully he was wearing gloves or the impact could have been horrific. If you roll the tape you'll notice he pounds the turf and puts his hands to his helmet in every effort to lessen the heat. Had he held onto the ball and ran for even 5 yards or so he may have suffered third degree burns and missed part of the coming season. I think this puts things in a new light and puts this behind us once and for all.
Posted by nyjoseph
I think my head just exploded. -
Re: Exploring: The Drop.
posted at 5/17/2012 3:50 PM EDT
- jri37
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In Response to Re: Exploring: The Drop.:In Response to Exploring: The Drop. : I see your point...... Wide open WR; pass badly and unnecessarilly overthrown,; said WR jumping and falling backwards while running in a different direction failing to secure the ball with his fingertips..... Who's idea was it to franchise this pitiful excuse of a WR?
Posted by AZPAT
i agree until you get to fingertips... the ball is plainly in his hands. -
Re: Exploring: The Drop.
posted at 5/17/2012 4:05 PM EDT
- CablesWyndBairn
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Wow. Football season needs to start soon or some of us need new hobbies... -
Re: Exploring: The Drop.
posted at 5/17/2012 4:09 PM EDT
- TFB12
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I'm a Brady fan but even I can admit the pass could have and should have been better. Still pictures don't tell the whole story. Go back and watch the several different views in real time video and you can easily see how difficult that catch is to make. -
Re: Exploring: The Drop.
posted at 5/17/2012 4:10 PM EDT
- wozzy
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A game should never comes down to one play.If they run the ball earlier when they had a lead, play ball control offense, convert first downs, come away with another field goal when they could have instead of throwing a 1st down pick overthrowing Gronk down the middle then the game wouldn't have come down to one missed catch.Branch and Hernandez also dropped a catch on this drive, why do they get a free pass? Because Welker dropped the final pass or maybe because Wes is in the middle of a contentious contract negotiation?This is just another insipid, divisive thread started by a master troll. The point isn't to create original thought or discourse but rather to create a divide amongst Pat's fans.Get over it... the game was lost long before this play when they devised or deviated from their flawed offensive game plan. -
Re: Exploring: The Drop.
posted at 5/17/2012 4:22 PM EDT
- Bustchise
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In Response to Re: Exploring: The Drop.:A game should never comes down to one play. If they run the ball earlier when they had a lead, play ball control offense, convert first downs, come away with another field goal when they could have instead of throwing a 1st down pick overthrowing Gronk down the middle then the game wouldn't have come down to one missed catch. Branch and Hernandez also dropped a catch on this drive, why do they get a free pass? Because Welker dropped the final pass or maybe because Wes is in the middle of a contentious contract negotiation? This is just another insipid, divisive thread started by a master troll. The point isn't to create original thought or discourse but rather to create a divide amongst Pat's fans. Get over it... the game was lost long before this play when they devised or deviated from their flawed offensive game plan.
Posted by wozzy
A key component in running the ball is being able to run the ball. -
Re: Exploring: The Drop.
posted at 5/17/2012 4:24 PM EDT
- wozzy
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In Response to Re: Exploring: The Drop.:In Response to Re: Exploring: The Drop. : A key component in running the ball is being able to run the ball.
Posted by BustchiseOK Babe, now log out, log in as Babe and agree with yourself. -
Re: Exploring: The Drop.
posted at 5/17/2012 4:24 PM EDT
- portfolio1
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In Response to Exploring: The Drop.:How in hell do you not catch this ball?
Posted by BabeParilli
I gotta say Babe, looking at a still photo you gotta wonder why he didn't catch it. In motion it looked tougher and I think this still does not due full justice to Wes. But especially after the great plays we have had to endure - like the helmet catch - you gotta wonder... This was a tough catch but doable. A big play is what you expect from your best when a big game is on the line.
Still, I do not let TB off the hook either. He was either not so accurate or being too clever in trying to minmize the chance at interception - something he would have done well to have controlled on that long pass to an injured Gronk.
But still again.. it was tough but catchable.
It sort of ruins the offseason all over again!!!! -
Re: Exploring: The Drop.
posted at 5/17/2012 4:25 PM EDT
- portfolio1
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ANd hey, it got some of us to stop talking politics!!!!!