Familiarity breeds contempt.

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    Familiarity breeds contempt.

    Just checking out some stats on ESPN and noticed a familiar pattern emerging with 1/4th of the season in the books.  Unfortunately, while the familiar O stats are good, there appears to be understated pattern with the D.  Tops in take-aways, middle of the pack in points allowed and bottom third in yards.  3rd down D is still awful.

    Yes it's early but week 5 may further decrease these stats.  There is the perception that the D is better, but is it? 

    Sure they picked up some nice players and some like Spikes are playing out of their minds, but why the same old problems?  Talent or scheme?  The prevent D seems to be preventing wins.

    A look at where the Patriots rank in key statistical categories after Week 4, while also bringing the team's opponent this week -- the Denver Broncos -- into the discussion:

    Points scored
    This week: 1st (33.5)
    Last week: 10th (27.3)
    Broncos: 7th (28.5)

    Points against
    This week: 18th (23.0)
    Last week: 10th (21.3)
    Broncos: Tied-1oth (20.7)

    Third-down offense
    This week: 12th (41.5, 22 of 53)
    Last week: Tied-8th (42.9 percent, 18 of 42)
    Broncos: 4th (46.3 percent, 25 of 54)

    Third-down defense
    This week: 22nd (41.2 percent, 21 of 51)
    Last week: Tied-12th (36.1 percent, 13 of 36)
    Broncos: 23rd (41.4 percent, 24 of 58)

    Turnover differential
    This week: 2nd (Plus-8 -- 11 takeaways, 3 giveaways)
    Last week: Tied-3rd (Plus-4 -- 5 takeaways, 1 giveaway)
    Broncos: Tied-25th (Minus-4 -- 3 takeaways, 7 giveaways)

    Red-zone offense (TD percentage)
    This week: 10th (61.1 percent, 11 of 18)
    Last week: Tied-16th (50 percent, 6 of 12)
    Broncos: Tied-5th (64.3 percent, 9 of 14)

    Red-zone defense (TD percentage)
    This week: 12th (50 percent, 4 of 8)
    Last week: 19th (57.1 percent; 4 of 7)
    Broncos: Tied-17th (53.8 percent, 7 of 13)

     

     
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    Re: Familiarity breeds contempt.

    In response to DelGriffith's comment:

    Here's a hint: Don't miss FGs or fumble it in your own zone, over and over and over.

    Also, make sure replacement refs aren't near the field.

     

    Actually their fumbles are about average and their penalities are relatively low
     in comparison to the other D's. The zebras were bad in most games, not just the Pats
    ..They might have extended a couple of drives but also took points away from the O.

     
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    Re: Familiarity breeds contempt.

    I think a lot of the problem is that we are playing a pretty conservative defense.  There was a time we moved a lot of people around on the line, disguised blitzes, and blitzed a lot.  Not so much anymore.  Now it's stay in and control your lanes, rush 4, safeties and corners stay back and play zone. 

     

     
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    Re: Familiarity breeds contempt.

    In response to DelGriffith's comment:

    Not the total of fumbles, but where on the field and when.  Again, this goes back the 3 and out concept from last year.

    If your D is just getting to the bench to regroup, can't make adjustments, can't get a breather, etc, why are you expecting MORE from them at that point?

    Look at it this way:

    How frequently did the Weis era Pats offense turn it over or go 3 and out? Not anywhere near the rate that this offense did in 2011 or in the Arizona or Buffalo games this year. NE's offense was as bad as they could be with the fumbles, the missed FGs, giving up field position on the road, etc.

    Amazing turn around in the second hal, but you can't discount things like this and the effect it has on any defense.  

    NE's SB Ds would have been WAY WORSE if they had to deal with no holding being callled like in this era, a high 3 and out rate by our offense, losses in field position, etc. 

    Friends asked me back then: HOw do the Pats do it?  My answer: Don't turn it over, win the field position battle, play clean and smart.  Sounds so easy, but the fact is 90% of NFL teams aren't good at these things.  BB would up the odds the other teams would buckle.  Now, sometimes, our offense buckles and it comes in huge waves, which kills any chance at sustaining momentum.

     

     

     

     

      Oh, so the 1st ranked O is turning the ball over and going 3 and out too much? Weren't they 2nd in 1st downs last year and currently first?  That does not compute.  1st downs are the opposite of 3 & outs.  Do you expect them not to have any?

    The fumbles and missed Fg's were bad but that was only 1 half of 8 and certainly didn't account for the 1100 yards they have given up in the past 2 games.

    Just admit it, 3rd down D is still an issue and needs to improve.  368 ypp ain't gonna cut it.

    Seattle is only giving up 275 and is 2nd.., in spite of it's 29th offensive ranking

     
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    Re: Familiarity breeds contempt.

    The defense is much better than last season. Anyone watching that knows anything about football can see it. Anyone who follows the Patriots also knows that BB defenses always improve as the season goes, playing their best in late season.

    i swear there are trolls here that want the defense to play badly, and they love to point it out right here. Usually the same people who scream troll when someone says Brady made a bad pass.

     
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    Re: Familiarity breeds contempt.

    For the McCourty haters

     

    McCourty has done an impressive job on the outside, helping to shut down Pro Bowl-caliber receivers such as Larry Fitgerald (one catch, four yards), Stevie Johnson (two catches, 23 yards) and Anquan Boldin (four catches, 48 yards). His ability to make plays on the ball has also been showcased, as McCourty ranks second in the league with eight passes defended and a pair of interceptions through four games.

    Sure, a couple of dropped interceptions and the pass interference call in Baltimore serve as reminders of the potential that McCourty has still yet to fulfill. And he may never amount to the elite talent possessed by Champ Bailey or Charles Woodson on the outside. But McCourty has the talent to be a true No. 1 corner and he continues to prove it each week, even if no one is willing to acknowledge it

    and the link  http://www.nesn.com/2012/10/devin-mccourty-responding-to-criticism-with-return-to-pro-bowl-form-in-patriots-secondary.html

     
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    Re: Familiarity breeds contempt.

    When you are 2-2 your stats will reflect that. The 4-game sample is still too small to determine anything yet. As Russ pointed out, the Baltimore game skewed the defense's stats and the Buffalo game skewed the offense's stats. By week 12 or so we'll get a much better view.

     
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    Re: Familiarity breeds contempt.

    the season is only a quarter of the way through, but the defense does seem better....part of it being the two rookie additions and also brandon spikes playing great.

     
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    Re: Familiarity breeds contempt.

    In response to JintsFan's comment:

    In response to DelGriffith's comment:

    How is it better?  Anyone with 1/2 a brain can see why it's more together than it was through Sept last year.

    "maybe it's good, but it ain't"?

    Like I said, please get to a college. Any college.



    i said "maybe it's good maybe it ain't"  if ur gonna rag me be accurate

    hey i dont give a **** about ur D but as a football discussion I would like to know how it is better...



    chandler jones is a legit pass rusher and if the cornerbacks catch the ball when it is throwns to them, the defense will be fine.

     
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