Feeling GOOD about 2-0

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    Well...time will tell....I'm old school though....without a star QB...you got nothing.....

     
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    Well Flacco played at a high level in 2012 which netted him a big payday and a SB ring. Eli got hot late in both SB seasons and got 2 rings.

     
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    In response to Not-A-Shot's comment:

    "Thompkins and Dobson, for all their struggles...run very precise and crisp routes...even to the wrong place at times."

    I love when people post stuff like this.  How exactly does someone run a crisp route?  What could that possibly mean?

    How can someone run a precise route...to the wrong place?

    The rest of that post is turd.  It shows a clear lack of understanding, mixed with a few shots at Brady. 

    Yeah, they're 2-0.  They're supposed to be 2-0.  The Jets and the Bills are jokes. 



    Let me help you.  It means they sell their routes well and get seperation.  They just need to work on when they break their route which is the problem.  Reiss actually spoke about that the other day.  They're not turning their heads and breaking their route when TB is expecting them too.  

    I know hockey is more of your thing, so just ask anytime.  

     
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    "The D has looked very good" - well, the Jets had receivers open in the end zone Smith was too inexperieneced to throw to. 

    Sorry if some of us want to see how our team plays against good competition. Sure, I'm happy about 2-9 as well. Unlike yourself I appreciate how lucky we are to be playing tomato cans for the first three weeks of the season. Otherwise I seriously doubt we would be 2-0. 

    That said 2-0 is very good and it does buy us time to get the rest sorted. 

    Putting good receivers around Brady is NOT about what he deserves. It's about how you construct your offense in the NFL. When you choose, as Belichick does, to employ one of the most complex offenses in the NFL, it's borderline irresponsible to put that in the hands of rookies. 

    I'm still opimistic about the season but not all 2-0 records are created equal, so I don't really buy into your analysis whatsover.

         
     
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    "The Brees, Brady or Rodgers types don't win the SB every year."

    You have to have a star quarterback. Just doesn't have to be an established star. Eli was clutch on those postseasons, as was Flacco last year.

    "You just have to be healthy and hot in January for the most part."

    And have a star QB (or an emerging star). At best 25 percent of the teams in the NFL have that level of QB. You can get away with a very good QB that gets hot but that's it. The days of a Trent Dilfer "game manager - let the defense win it for us" type winning a Super Bowl as QB are over - due to the offensive rule changes. 

    "I just thnk this rhetoric or "Brady made BB" is utter garbage. Garbage. BB is the real key to this every year above the radar uber competitive club. Look at 2008. That's Exhibit A.""

    It's the only exhibit. It means Belichick can coach up a team well enough to get them on the fringes of the playoffs. Beyond that he needs a great QB. They mostly made each other. 2008 was a very good coaching job but in the end, that team was outside looking in. Brady goes down this year we don't go 11-5. Not even close. Doesn't mean Belichick is a bad coach.

         
     
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    In response to Not-A-Shot's comment:

    "Thompkins and Dobson, for all their struggles...run very precise and crisp routes...even to the wrong place at times."

    I love when people post stuff like this.  How exactly does someone run a crisp route?  What could that possibly mean?

    How can someone run a precise route...to the wrong place?

    The rest of that post is turd.  It shows a clear lack of understanding, mixed with a few shots at Brady. 

    Yeah, they're 2-0.  They're supposed to be 2-0.  The Jets and the Bills are jokes. 




    Good post by Dragon. 

    NAS, supposed to win?  Really?   And the Bruins were supposed to beat the Blackhawks too.

     
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    "The D has looked very good" - well, the Jets had receivers open in the end zone Smith was too inexperieneced to throw to. 

    Sorry if some of us want to see how our team plays against good competition. Sure, I'm happy about 2-9 as well. Unlike yourself I appreciate how lucky we are to be playing tomato cans for the first three weeks of the season. Otherwise I seriously doubt we would be 2-0. 

    That said 2-0 is very good and it does buy us time to get the rest sorted. 

    Putting good receivers around Brady is NOT about what he deserves. It's about how you construct your offense in the NFL. When you choose, as Belichick does, to employ one of the most complex offenses in the NFL, it's borderline irresponsible to put that in the hands of rookies. 

    I'm still opimistic about the season but not all 2-0 records are created equal, so I don't really buy into your analysis whatsover.

         



    No one is saying this team is a Super Bowl favorite right now.  I think that's the assumption a lot of poster are making at the moment.  The point is even if Welker was still on the team, the young receivers need to develope for this team to win a SB regardless.  If it was just the Welker show again, well its going to be the same result.  It's up to the young talent to bring their athleticism and be game changers, like the two deep balls that almost made last game a blow out.  Amendola (fine, if he gets healthy) and Edelman do a great job of playing the slot, the pats need outside receivers to do their jobs.  The D needs to keep improving, and thats another phase of the game no one wants to give credit too.  

    So understanding there is going to be growing pains and still being 2-0, now with 10 days for TB and the young guys to work on some timing, now with Tampa coming up which is more than a winnable game but not a gimme of course.... things are working out great for Pats.

    Let's say the game versus Atlanta is the measuring stick.  Let's see what happens there.  

     

     
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    I guess "empty cans make the most noise". Given the tone of the board when I wrote this, I was expecting a much more negarive response, I was wrong. Seems more epeople feel like me, we just don't share as much.

    I'm being called blindly positive. That's hilarious because, once upon a time when I predicted how the Pats would lose the the NYJ in the playoffs, I was told I wasn't a real fan. Good thing I'm confident in the person, and fan, that I am.

    Hlarious when people write "runs crisp routes", what does that even mean? Really? Making a sharp in-cut, rather than rounding it off. Making a good move to create peparation on a quick slant. Being able to beat press coverage and get off the line. All things I saw them do that people like Chad Jackson could NEVER do.

    And when did they run good routes to the wrong place? Down on the goalline, when TB famously got so made. Me hit the ground perfectly between 2 receivers. Both went to the wrong place. Go look at the play again, both ran good routes, and would've been open in another second...but a second is a long time in the NFL. Brady has 13 years of experience playing at that speed. They, Dobson and Thompkins, have 180 minutes, COMBINED, at this point. 

     
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    In response to zbellino's comment:

    I agree about feeling good about 2-0 ... NE stole a win or two. 

    Look, this is them at their worst on offense. It only stays the same or gets better from here. And they've come away with TWO divisional wins/conference wins.

    When things come together later this season, those could be tiebreakers. And neither the Jests nor the Bills will have such an easy go of it next time around.

    Sorry to say it too, because I hate jinxing theings. But if NE is going to drop games ... dropping them to NFC South teams is the best option ... as it means nothing to the playoff race outside of a loss.

    I'd rather they save their nut-up performances for when they have to face Denver.  

     

     



    That's pretty much how I see it too. As Parcels used to say, it's a long season and teams change throughout the season. There will still be growing pains but the young receivers will get better and hopefully gronk stays healthy. The defense looks better this year and will also improve as the season plays out. We are 2-0 with two division wins, by the time we play the bigger AFC matchups like Denver we will be much better. 01 and 03 didn't start quite like 07 but they were at their best late. I see this team as one that's going to improve significantly by December.

     
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    I feel better now...

     

    I feel  better than James Brown...

     

    I  feel better now. .

     
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    In response to FrankDooley's comment:

    In response to NoMorePensionLooting's comment:
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    NoMore...   did ANYONE think the Pats, given how they won those first 3 SBs, would then go the next 8 seasons not winning at least another?  With Brady and BB still part of the team?  Proof positive how difficult it is to capture that holy grail of football!

    AGCSBill, just a fan havin' fun!!

     



    Yes but beside the point. The holy grail is 4 rings, and TB and BB deserve to be there. yes this team has a place in history but I want it cemented there. 

    Things are gonna get real ugly when TB hangs em' up...I'm feeling a sense of get er done now!

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    Disagree. Club will still be competing for a division title as long as BB is here after TB retires. Won't be a sure thing like we have now, but they'll be ready for when Brady retires. 

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    We saw an example of how good BB can coach up a team in 2008 when Brady was out the entire season.  It can be done without Brady, just not as easy, if you call coaching an NFL team easy.

     
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    The best way to learn is from making mistakes.

     
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    I feel better now...

     

    I feel  better than James Brown...

     

    I  feel better now. .




     

    It's a song lyric from around 1989.  funky band named,  Was (not Was).

     
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    The rooks need to play, make mistakes and learn from them.  Thompkins has 2 games under his belt, Dobson 1 - both of 'em wins.  Were those wins Picassos?  Of course, not, but I feel really good about the Pats being 2-0 and I feel good about the rooks getting expreience without costing the team a win.  I'm optimistic about this team as a general rule and I'm really optimistic about the rookies improving as the season progresses.

     
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    Seems a LOT of people around here have a big problem with the Pats. Many of the talking heads as well.

    I heard someone on TV, maybe radio, commenting that BB actually seemed almost happy in the post game conference on Thursday, and was surprised.

    But, why WOULDN'T he be?

    His team is 2-0, both division wins.

    The D has looked very good. Can only play who's in front of you, so save it.

    Would it be nice to watch Brady zipping the ball to all-pros on the outside and in the slot? Sure it would!

    Am I going to complain that he isn't?

    NO!

    2 games in and people want to feel bad for the uber-rich, super model marrying, 3 ring having, very fortunate Mr Tom Brady for having to 'deal with rookies'.

    Poor him, and poor us, right?

    NO!

    This is the NFL. You are ENTITLED to NOTHING, you DESERVE NOTHING. At some point while playing QB for 13 years....you're going to have some questionable WR corps! This makes season TWO for Brady, the only other being 06. And. People. Complain.

    How many bad mental mistakes were being made? Yes, rookies ran wrong routes at times...I'm sure they are the only rookies in the history of the NFL to do that, so please, freak out over it.

    How many bad penalties? How many off-sides or false starts on 3rd downs? How many PI or illegal contact calls? How many broken Ds? When has a S been grossly out of position? A LBer?

    This TEAM is playing very sound football, and nobody seems to notice. Rather focus on young rookies, and one RB who has hands made of margarine. And injuries. It's definitely worth taking time to lament injuries in the NFL too.

    Drops? On a rainy night? Noooo....

    I saw very encouraging signs. Thompkins and Dobson, for all their struggles...run very precise and crisp routes...even to the wrong place at times. I STILL have faith in Dobson's hands. He caught a quick slant late, went for about 15 yards, and a few things I noticed:

    -He got of the line very well, and made a hard, good inside move

    -It was a fastball from Brady, and Dobson effortlessly reached his hands out IN FRONT of his body, and caught it, in stride, very naturally. It's all-too-rare to see WRs in the NF not need to catch it against their body.

    It seems obvious to me that the kid is overthinking it right now. No better example than when Brady almost drilled him with a pass 15 yards down field he almost didn't get his head around to see. These options rtes are a BTCH, and he's obviously struggling with that. Add to that the pressure of Playing in front of BB, for TB, and on national television, at home, in the rain, in his FIRST GAME EVER...I'll cut him a little slack. Seems reasonable.

    Even as that game was close late, and the NYJ had the ball...I was never nervous. Sure it's the Jets, but for the first time in a few years, I had unshakeable confidence that the D would do what they needed to do.

    Chandler Jones seems to be right back where he was. To see him getting pressure from the INSIDE was football porn to me. It is going to be fun watching him wreak havoc all season.

    McCourty looked very comfortable in the secondary, and I've been pleased with the Hydra of Talib/Dennard/Arrington.

    The LBs are one of the better groups in football.

    We now have a solid base of players who have actually been together for about 3 straight years (Wilfork, Mayo, McCourty, Spikes, Arrington, Nink). It's been a while since they've had that continuity in good starters.

    So, sit back and relax. It's early, this O will play a LOT better as this season rolls along. And I think people will start to realize that it's not just the opponents, this D is also very good.



    I think that's an over reaction, my 2 cents.

     
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    Well...time will tell....I'm old school though....without a star QB...you got nothing.....



    That's decidedly NOT old school. Unless that school started circa-2000. Old school would be running game all day.

     
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    Well...time will tell....I'm old school though....without a star QB...you got nothing.....

     



    That's decidedly NOT old school. Unless that school started circa-2000. Old school would be running game all day.

     

     

    Boy you got me there alright...I'm not worthy...I actually seen some of the greats play but maybe it was a dream...not sure...

    Anyway...lesson learned...I'll never take on someone such as you with superior football knowledge ever again...

    http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9488632/bill-barnwell-names-best-qbs-nfl-history

     
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    It was all hands on deck and people jumping off bridges when we lost to the cards last year.  2things that I see.  #1 were winning the close ones and 2, the receivers (even though the ball hits them in the hands) are open. Both of these will help this season.  

     

     

    Now you got the easy part done telling me about it.

    Does that handshaped bruise on your back hurt?

     

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