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    I believe what Felger said was he doesn't like how certain questions weren't asked, like how does Brady feel about losing his favorite target again? How does he feel the defense has been inproved when it hasn't added a pass rusher? How does the drafting of this team affect the chances of them winning another Super Bowl? Because those were things King asked in a round about way at the end of his fluff piece on Brady, but he didn't actually ask Brady those things. Felger then said a fluff piece was ok 8 years ago when Brady was unbeaten in the playoffs and had won those Super Bowls...that is not the case now. 

     
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    I believe what Felger said was he doesn't like how certain questions weren't asked, like how does Brady feel about losing his favorite target again? How does he feel the defense has been inproved when it hasn't added a pass rusher? How does the drafting of this team affect the chances of them winning another Super Bowl? Because those were things King asked in a round about way at the end of his fluff piece on Brady, but he didn't actually ask Brady those things. Felger then said a fluff piece was ok 8 years ago when Brady was unbeaten in the playoffs and had won those Super Bowls...that is not the case now. 

     




    Ok, so why doesn't the media ask Brady this? Reiss has never done it. No one has.  I am not saying Brady censors King's or anyone's interviews, but it's maddening to not hear Brady address how he needs to improve. I fully realize it's sort of cornering him, but I am starting to wonder if he realizes how poor his last AFC title games really are or why INTs on 1st downs are so prevalent now.

     

    At best, at best, he'd been mediocre for like 7 years in the postseason! He's been inconsistent. He's been generally GREAT in the wild card or divisional round (Minus 2010), but he's been bad or average in the title games and SBs.

    You can't dispute this. So, I don't care about him at the Kentucky Derby or cleaning his moat or him throwing passes to Terrell Owens in LA.

    As a fan, I don't care about that.

    I want Brady to publicly acknowledge that he and he alone, as the leader of this team, needs to raise the bar, personally, because that will channel down to the rest of the team. And, then I want him to show me. Don't tell me your arm feels good or any of this other meaningless crap. Just go play and be smart, get under Center, target everyone, don't play favorites, and you'll be a better QB as a result.

    Thinking you're kind of above the kids in that locker room who don't have rings, etc, is getting really old, too. The staring down of the WR or TE who isn't perfect while he isn't even close to being perfect himself, looks bad.

    It's the consistency qtr to qtr, game to game that matters. Not some incredible 6 TD game vs 8-8 Denver and Tim Tebow. No Patriot fan worth his salt should give two squats about that stuff at this point.

    We're going to have an absolutely LOADED young D for the next few years and we're going to be wondering what Brady does at certain times in close games in January and hopefully February.

    It'd be nice if we can past the 20 point mark in those games, JUST ONCE.  Once.

    If we do win another SB, our D will hold to under 20 points, but our offense led by the supposed GOAT must led that offense to over 20 points.



    Really? He's not going to answer one single difficult question about himself or the team. This is what athletes of his stature do. Weather you believe it or not, he has reached that Michael Jordan, Gretzky level...average reporters aren't just going to ask him certain things. Not going to happen - plus it's not like this guy isn't playing at an elite level, just because you don't want to recognize it, doesn't mean the rest of the world doesn't see it that way.

     
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    I believe what Felger said was he doesn't like how certain questions weren't asked, like how does Brady feel about losing his favorite target again? How does he feel the defense has been inproved when it hasn't added a pass rusher? How does the drafting of this team affect the chances of them winning another Super Bowl? Because those were things King asked in a round about way at the end of his fluff piece on Brady, but he didn't actually ask Brady those things. Felger then said a fluff piece was ok 8 years ago when Brady was unbeaten in the playoffs and had won those Super Bowls...that is not the case now. 

     




    Ok, so why doesn't the media ask Brady this? Reiss has never done it. No one has.  I am not saying Brady censors King's or anyone's interviews, but it's maddening to not hear Brady address how he needs to improve. I fully realize it's sort of cornering him, but I am starting to wonder if he realizes how poor his last AFC title games really are or why INTs on 1st downs are so prevalent now.

     

    At best, at best, he'd been mediocre for like 7 years in the postseason! He's been inconsistent. He's been generally GREAT in the wild card or divisional round (Minus 2010), but he's been bad or average in the title games and SBs.

    You can't dispute this. So, I don't care about him at the Kentucky Derby or cleaning his moat or him throwing passes to Terrell Owens in LA.

    As a fan, I don't care about that.

    I want Brady to publicly acknowledge that he and he alone, as the leader of this team, needs to raise the bar, personally, because that will channel down to the rest of the team. And, then I want him to show me. Don't tell me your arm feels good or any of this other meaningless crap. Just go play and be smart, get under Center, target everyone, don't play favorites, and you'll be a better QB as a result.

    Thinking you're kind of above the kids in that locker room who don't have rings, etc, is getting really old, too. The staring down of the WR or TE who isn't perfect while he isn't even close to being perfect himself, looks bad.

    It's the consistency qtr to qtr, game to game that matters. Not some incredible 6 TD game vs 8-8 Denver and Tim Tebow. No Patriot fan worth his salt should give two squats about that stuff at this point.

    We're going to have an absolutely LOADED young D for the next few years and we're going to be wondering what Brady does at certain times in close games in January and hopefully February.

    It'd be nice if we can past the 20 point mark in those games, JUST ONCE.  Once.

    If we do win another SB, our D will hold to under 20 points, but our offense led by the supposed GOAT must led that offense to over 20 points.

     



    Really? He's not going to answer one single difficult question about himself or the team. This is what athletes of his stature do. Weather you believe it or not, he has reached that Michael Jordan, Gretzky level...average reporters aren't just going to ask him certain things. Not going to happen - plus it's not like this guy isn't playing at an elite level, just because you don't want to recognize it, doesn't mean the rest of the world doesn't see it that way.

     

     



    So, you're saying for the next 5 seasons here, he is above reproach in January or February? Then, what is the point of him saying his favorite ring is the next one, if he's all set with 3 and his Canton invitation?

     

    Care to answer that one?

    Your answer and attitude is my fear of what the problem has been. I don't care if he's Gretzky level or Larry Bird or whoever.  




    I'm not saying it's right, but I also think he is still playing at a very high level...I don't think he is the problem, if I thought he was the problem I'd agree with you here. When he becomes the problem I think people will fire away...people don't think he is the problem in the media (and I think they're right). You know how Boston is, as soon as they think you are on a decline they will crucify you...it doesn't matter who you are, but when you are playing at a elite level they aren't going to press you.

     
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    BB has like a dozen WRs in here, pretty much all new (minus Edleman), for a reason. It's to get Brady back to the old Brady.




    You have said this before. Sometimes you have a good perspecticve. But this is not one of them... not by any stretch of teh imagination. It is the sort of logic I would expect from a Jets fan or a Tebow obsessed fan. That is, somewhat twisted.... Not you, the logic...

    If you think anything of BB you will consider that his goal is to build the BEST team he can. Not to put lesser talent on the field to make TB have to think about who to throw to!!??

     

    One thing you can say for BB is that he is focused. I understand your reasoning but it really is - IN THIS CASE - quite redilculous.

    Sorry for the strong characterization but please, you do have better to contribute.

     

    As for tyhe talent we are fielding...

    1. Gonk is all world when on the field

    2. Hern is excellent within his role

    3. Amendola is somewhere between Gronk and Hern relative to his position..  that is he is excellent. He can get open, he can make GREAT catches, he can tirn plays into bigger plays, he can be prolific.

    4. Edelman is sound (when healthy) with more upside

    5. We might have the best rookie WR we have ever had... ANd you can take your pick!!! It could be Boyce! It could be Dobson. I am not saying they will both be great. But they both look like they could be. And complimentary as well....

    6. Jones adds real value in depth (depth this team has been laking at WR)

    7. Vereen is perhaps the most dangerous RB coming out of the backfield we have ever had...

    THAT IS A LOT AND VARIED number of quality weapons.

    I bet Brady is excited. I know I am.

    Here is to hoping the O line finds a way to take a step forward. Maybe Cannon? Maybe Connolly makes some strides? Maybe Wendell. After all he only just had his first year starting.

    And we have not talked about Ridley , Vereen, Bolden and ... the head case we just picked up whose name I am forgettting.... but it is a very solid if not very strong group of RBs. If Ridley and Vereen play up to their potential it might be a top 5 group.

     
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    I believe what Felger said was he doesn't like how certain questions weren't asked, like how does Brady feel about losing his favorite target again? How does he feel the defense has been inproved when it hasn't added a pass rusher? How does the drafting of this team affect the chances of them winning another Super Bowl? Because those were things King asked in a round about way at the end of his fluff piece on Brady, but he didn't actually ask Brady those things. Felger then said a fluff piece was ok 8 years ago when Brady was unbeaten in the playoffs and had won those Super Bowls...that is not the case now. 

     




    Ok, so why doesn't the media ask Brady this? Reiss has never done it. No one has.  I am not saying Brady censors King's or anyone's interviews, but it's maddening to not hear Brady address how he needs to improve. I fully realize it's sort of cornering him, but I am starting to wonder if he realizes how poor his last AFC title games really are or why INTs on 1st downs are so prevalent now.

     

    At best, at best, he'd been mediocre for like 7 years in the postseason! He's been inconsistent. He's been generally GREAT in the wild card or divisional round (Minus 2010), but he's been bad or average in the title games and SBs.

    You can't dispute this. So, I don't care about him at the Kentucky Derby or cleaning his moat or him throwing passes to Terrell Owens in LA.

    As a fan, I don't care about that.

    I want Brady to publicly acknowledge that he and he alone, as the leader of this team, needs to raise the bar, personally, because that will channel down to the rest of the team. And, then I want him to show me. Don't tell me your arm feels good or any of this other meaningless crap. Just go play and be smart, get under Center, target everyone, don't play favorites, and you'll be a better QB as a result.

    Thinking you're kind of above the kids in that locker room who don't have rings, etc, is getting really old, too. The staring down of the WR or TE who isn't perfect while he isn't even close to being perfect himself, looks bad.

    It's the consistency qtr to qtr, game to game that matters. Not some incredible 6 TD game vs 8-8 Denver and Tim Tebow. No Patriot fan worth his salt should give two squats about that stuff at this point.

    We're going to have an absolutely LOADED young D for the next few years and we're going to be wondering what Brady does at certain times in close games in January and hopefully February.

    It'd be nice if we can past the 20 point mark in those games, JUST ONCE.  Once.

    If we do win another SB, our D will hold to under 20 points, but our offense led by the supposed GOAT must led that offense to over 20 points.

     



    Really? He's not going to answer one single difficult question about himself or the team. This is what athletes of his stature do. Weather you believe it or not, he has reached that Michael Jordan, Gretzky level...average reporters aren't just going to ask him certain things. Not going to happen - plus it's not like this guy isn't playing at an elite level, just because you don't want to recognize it, doesn't mean the rest of the world doesn't see it that way.

     

     



    So, you're saying for the next 5 seasons here, he is above reproach in January or February? Then, what is the point of him saying his favorite ring is the next one, if he's all set with 3 and his Canton invitation?

     

    Care to answer that one?

    Your answer and attitude is my fear of what the problem has been. I don't care if he's Gretzky level or Larry Bird or whoever.  

     




    I'm not saying it's right, but I also think he is still playing at a very high level...I don't think he is the problem, if I thought he was the problem I'd agree with you here. When he becomes the problem I think people will fire away...people don't think he is the problem in the media (and I think they're right). You know how Boston is, as soon as they think you are on a decline they will crucify you...it doesn't matter who you are, but when you are playing at a elite level they aren't going to press you.

     

     




    He's been playing at a high level in the postseasons of late?  His stats are 28 TDs and 19 INTs in the postseason since 2005.  That's nowhere near representatitve of a QB playing at a high level.

     

    Since 2007, in 3 AFC title games, 8 TDs and 9 INTs. And you can't argue that Gronk was missing, because he was awful with a loaded cast in 2007, too.  So, it's not just because a great TE got hurt.

    We're not going to beat an elite AFC team or a great NFC team with a mediocre, or at times, subpar QB. It's just not going to happen.

    It's that simple. Why can't you and others just admit it and move on?

    These are real numbers and stats.  Nothing is made up.  I have sent an email to WEEI asking them for access to 2010 interview with Dennis and Callahan so I can show everyone where he said he prefers the shotgun, but no response so far. 

    I've Googled it and I can't find it. It was the Fall of 2010 and it was around the time Moss was dealt, either before or after. I am not making it up. It totally caught my eye and until he gets back under center and leans on our run game to establish a run with no gimmicks like a hurry up or shotgun spread base, it's going to be burned into my brain when we score 13 points off of 45+ passes and blowing a lead.

    So, most of this is on Brady, his preference of formations, audibles the autonommy he has to run a series of plays with full rein, etc.

    How many any real Pats fan be happy with how he's played lately?

     



    I really don't think he has been the post season problem, I think the defense has been. I think Brady has done well honestly. I and everyone knew he would struggle against Baltimore because they have one of the best pass defenses in the league...and he did. Now on both occasions Gronk was either out, or about to be out. I do think the last playoff game against Baltimore wasn't his best...he made a few mistakes and he didn't carry the team on his shoulders. That is the problem - he needs to carry this team on his shoulders and its not realistic to expect that in every playoff game. In the Super Bowl he would of won the MVP easily if we had won that game.

    I don't care if he likes playing in the shotgun - despite what you may think this team is far from being dominant in the running department. This team also does not house a Super Bowl quality defense...you need both to win a Super Bowl. I really believe this is a 7-9 team without Brady..that's not good enough.

     
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    I believe what Felger said was he doesn't like how certain questions weren't asked, like how does Brady feel about losing his favorite target again? How does he feel the defense has been inproved when it hasn't added a pass rusher? How does the drafting of this team affect the chances of them winning another Super Bowl? Because those were things King asked in a round about way at the end of his fluff piece on Brady, but he didn't actually ask Brady those things. Felger then said a fluff piece was ok 8 years ago when Brady was unbeaten in the playoffs and had won those Super Bowls...that is not the case now. 

     




    Ok, so why doesn't the media ask Brady this? Reiss has never done it. No one has.  I am not saying Brady censors King's or anyone's interviews, but it's maddening to not hear Brady address how he needs to improve. I fully realize it's sort of cornering him, but I am starting to wonder if he realizes how poor his last AFC title games really are or why INTs on 1st downs are so prevalent now.

     

    At best, at best, he'd been mediocre for like 7 years in the postseason! He's been inconsistent. He's been generally GREAT in the wild card or divisional round (Minus 2010), but he's been bad or average in the title games and SBs.

    You can't dispute this. So, I don't care about him at the Kentucky Derby or cleaning his moat or him throwing passes to Terrell Owens in LA.

    As a fan, I don't care about that.

    I want Brady to publicly acknowledge that he and he alone, as the leader of this team, needs to raise the bar, personally, because that will channel down to the rest of the team. And, then I want him to show me. Don't tell me your arm feels good or any of this other meaningless crap. Just go play and be smart, get under Center, target everyone, don't play favorites, and you'll be a better QB as a result.

    Thinking you're kind of above the kids in that locker room who don't have rings, etc, is getting really old, too. The staring down of the WR or TE who isn't perfect while he isn't even close to being perfect himself, looks bad.

    It's the consistency qtr to qtr, game to game that matters. Not some incredible 6 TD game vs 8-8 Denver and Tim Tebow. No Patriot fan worth his salt should give two squats about that stuff at this point.

    We're going to have an absolutely LOADED young D for the next few years and we're going to be wondering what Brady does at certain times in close games in January and hopefully February.

    It'd be nice if we can past the 20 point mark in those games, JUST ONCE.  Once.

    If we do win another SB, our D will hold to under 20 points, but our offense led by the supposed GOAT must led that offense to over 20 points.

     



    Really? He's not going to answer one single difficult question about himself or the team. This is what athletes of his stature do. Weather you believe it or not, he has reached that Michael Jordan, Gretzky level...average reporters aren't just going to ask him certain things. Not going to happen - plus it's not like this guy isn't playing at an elite level, just because you don't want to recognize it, doesn't mean the rest of the world doesn't see it that way.

     

     



    So, you're saying for the next 5 seasons here, he is above reproach in January or February? Then, what is the point of him saying his favorite ring is the next one, if he's all set with 3 and his Canton invitation?

     

    Care to answer that one?

    Your answer and attitude is my fear of what the problem has been. I don't care if he's Gretzky level or Larry Bird or whoever.  

     




    I'm not saying it's right, but I also think he is still playing at a very high level...I don't think he is the problem, if I thought he was the problem I'd agree with you here. When he becomes the problem I think people will fire away...people don't think he is the problem in the media (and I think they're right). You know how Boston is, as soon as they think you are on a decline they will crucify you...it doesn't matter who you are, but when you are playing at a elite level they aren't going to press you.

     

     




    He's been playing at a high level in the postseasons of late?  His stats are 28 TDs and 19 INTs in the postseason since 2005.  That's nowhere near representatitve of a QB playing at a high level.

     

    Since 2007, in 3 AFC title games, 8 TDs and 9 INTs. And you can't argue that Gronk was missing, because he was awful with a loaded cast in 2007, too.  So, it's not just because a great TE got hurt.

    We're not going to beat an elite AFC team or a great NFC team with a mediocre, or at times, subpar QB. It's just not going to happen.

    It's that simple. Why can't you and others just admit it and move on?

    These are real numbers and stats.  Nothing is made up.  I have sent an email to WEEI asking them for access to 2010 interview with Dennis and Callahan so I can show everyone where he said he prefers the shotgun, but no response so far. 

    I've Googled it and I can't find it. It was the Fall of 2010 and it was around the time Moss was dealt, either before or after. I am not making it up. It totally caught my eye and until he gets back under center and leans on our run game to establish a run with no gimmicks like a hurry up or shotgun spread base, it's going to be burned into my brain when we score 13 points off of 45+ passes and blowing a lead.

    So, most of this is on Brady, his preference of formations, audibles the autonommy he has to run a series of plays with full rein, etc.

    How many any real Pats fan be happy with how he's played lately?

     

     



    I really don't think he has been the post season problem, I think the defense has been. I think Brady has done well honestly. I and everyone knew he would struggle against Baltimore because they have one of the best pass defenses in the league...and he did. Now on both occasions Gronk was either out, or about to be out. I do think the last playoff game against Baltimore wasn't his best...he made a few mistakes and he didn't carry the team on his shoulders. That is the problem - he needs to carry this team on his shoulders and its not realistic to expect that in every playoff game. In the Super Bowl he would of won the MVP easily if we had won that game.

     

    I don't care if he likes playing in the shotgun - despite what you may think this team is far from being dominant in the running department. This team also does not house a Super Bowl quality defense...you need both to win a Super Bowl. I really believe this is a 7-9 team without Brady..that's not good enough.

     



    So, when our D bails him out in the 2007 AFC title game or Laura Maroney with 22 carries for 125 yards or when Spikes picks Flacco in the 2011 AFC title game, with Brady throwing yet another INT in the game on 1st down on the very next play, this is your idea of good QB play in the postseason?

     

    This is a 10-6 team with a solid back up veteran QB with what would be around that kind of a QB here. Cassel went 11-5 in 2008, for example, and there is WAY, WAY more talent across the roster on offense now and on D compared to then. 

    We're a 13-3 or 14-2 team with him, but what does it matter if he's helping us to 13 or 17 points in these games? You're basically saying 13-17 points of scoring is enough for us to win.

    You expect our D to seriously hold teams to 12 or 13 points while he's tossing 2 or 3 INTs and passing over 40 times?

    Why?

     




    17 points is obviously enough to win as the Gints did in 2007.

    Do you know that QB's typically throw Ints on 3% of their passes?  Brady is consistently lower but not immune.  That would mean 1.33 ints per 40 passes, typically.

    Do you know a majority of ints are caused by Receiver error and other variables?

    The D gave up the game winning drive both SB's and in the majority of losses since 2007.

    Do you know it's twice as likely to prevent a team from scoring as it is to score?

    Yup, 33% scoring % as apposed to 66% not.

    Do you know you would have to score on 50% of your drives with an even TD/FG ratio to score 20 points in a 8 possession game?

    Do you know the D allowed a 50% scoring percentage when just an average D only allows 33%?

    Do you know a D should only spend 2:38 on the field per possession, not 4:45?

    Do you know that NO SB TEAM has ever won with a higher than 87 DPR?

    Can you even imagine their DPR without TB blowing teams away, game after game after game?  Well, guess what happens when he can't. 

    They lose!

    An average QB on this team and they are the JETS, except the jest D is better, so maybe not even that.  Hell, every AFC E team has had a better D than the Pats.

    The 2-14 Rams had a better D in 2011.

    What they don't have is the QB and the coach.

     
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    I believe what Felger said was he doesn't like how certain questions weren't asked, like how does Brady feel about losing his favorite target again? How does he feel the defense has been inproved when it hasn't added a pass rusher? How does the drafting of this team affect the chances of them winning another Super Bowl? Because those were things King asked in a round about way at the end of his fluff piece on Brady, but he didn't actually ask Brady those things. Felger then said a fluff piece was ok 8 years ago when Brady was unbeaten in the playoffs and had won those Super Bowls...that is not the case now. 

     




    Ok, so why doesn't the media ask Brady this? Reiss has never done it. No one has.  I am not saying Brady censors King's or anyone's interviews, but it's maddening to not hear Brady address how he needs to improve. I fully realize it's sort of cornering him, but I am starting to wonder if he realizes how poor his last AFC title games really are or why INTs on 1st downs are so prevalent now.

     

    At best, at best, he'd been mediocre for like 7 years in the postseason! He's been inconsistent. He's been generally GREAT in the wild card or divisional round (Minus 2010), but he's been bad or average in the title games and SBs.

    You can't dispute this. So, I don't care about him at the Kentucky Derby or cleaning his moat or him throwing passes to Terrell Owens in LA.

    As a fan, I don't care about that.

    I want Brady to publicly acknowledge that he and he alone, as the leader of this team, needs to raise the bar, personally, because that will channel down to the rest of the team. And, then I want him to show me. Don't tell me your arm feels good or any of this other meaningless crap. Just go play and be smart, get under Center, target everyone, don't play favorites, and you'll be a better QB as a result.

    Thinking you're kind of above the kids in that locker room who don't have rings, etc, is getting really old, too. The staring down of the WR or TE who isn't perfect while he isn't even close to being perfect himself, looks bad.

    It's the consistency qtr to qtr, game to game that matters. Not some incredible 6 TD game vs 8-8 Denver and Tim Tebow. No Patriot fan worth his salt should give two squats about that stuff at this point.

    We're going to have an absolutely LOADED young D for the next few years and we're going to be wondering what Brady does at certain times in close games in January and hopefully February.

    It'd be nice if we can past the 20 point mark in those games, JUST ONCE.  Once.

    If we do win another SB, our D will hold to under 20 points, but our offense led by the supposed GOAT must led that offense to over 20 points.

     



    Really? He's not going to answer one single difficult question about himself or the team. This is what athletes of his stature do. Weather you believe it or not, he has reached that Michael Jordan, Gretzky level...average reporters aren't just going to ask him certain things. Not going to happen - plus it's not like this guy isn't playing at an elite level, just because you don't want to recognize it, doesn't mean the rest of the world doesn't see it that way.

     

     



    So, you're saying for the next 5 seasons here, he is above reproach in January or February? Then, what is the point of him saying his favorite ring is the next one, if he's all set with 3 and his Canton invitation?

     

    Care to answer that one?

    Your answer and attitude is my fear of what the problem has been. I don't care if he's Gretzky level or Larry Bird or whoever.  

     




    I'm not saying it's right, but I also think he is still playing at a very high level...I don't think he is the problem, if I thought he was the problem I'd agree with you here. When he becomes the problem I think people will fire away...people don't think he is the problem in the media (and I think they're right). You know how Boston is, as soon as they think you are on a decline they will crucify you...it doesn't matter who you are, but when you are playing at a elite level they aren't going to press you.

     

     




    He's been playing at a high level in the postseasons of late?  His stats are 28 TDs and 19 INTs in the postseason since 2005.  That's nowhere near representatitve of a QB playing at a high level.

     

    Since 2007, in 3 AFC title games, 8 TDs and 9 INTs. And you can't argue that Gronk was missing, because he was awful with a loaded cast in 2007, too.  So, it's not just because a great TE got hurt.

    We're not going to beat an elite AFC team or a great NFC team with a mediocre, or at times, subpar QB. It's just not going to happen.

    It's that simple. Why can't you and others just admit it and move on?

    These are real numbers and stats.  Nothing is made up.  I have sent an email to WEEI asking them for access to 2010 interview with Dennis and Callahan so I can show everyone where he said he prefers the shotgun, but no response so far. 

    I've Googled it and I can't find it. It was the Fall of 2010 and it was around the time Moss was dealt, either before or after. I am not making it up. It totally caught my eye and until he gets back under center and leans on our run game to establish a run with no gimmicks like a hurry up or shotgun spread base, it's going to be burned into my brain when we score 13 points off of 45+ passes and blowing a lead.

    So, most of this is on Brady, his preference of formations, audibles the autonommy he has to run a series of plays with full rein, etc.

    How many any real Pats fan be happy with how he's played lately?

     

     



    I really don't think he has been the post season problem, I think the defense has been. I think Brady has done well honestly. I and everyone knew he would struggle against Baltimore because they have one of the best pass defenses in the league...and he did. Now on both occasions Gronk was either out, or about to be out. I do think the last playoff game against Baltimore wasn't his best...he made a few mistakes and he didn't carry the team on his shoulders. That is the problem - he needs to carry this team on his shoulders and its not realistic to expect that in every playoff game. In the Super Bowl he would of won the MVP easily if we had won that game.

     

    I don't care if he likes playing in the shotgun - despite what you may think this team is far from being dominant in the running department. This team also does not house a Super Bowl quality defense...you need both to win a Super Bowl. I really believe this is a 7-9 team without Brady..that's not good enough.

     



    So, when our D bails him out in the 2007 AFC title game or Laura Maroney with 22 carries for 125 yards or when Spikes picks Flacco in the 2011 AFC title game, with Brady throwing yet another INT in the game on 1st down on the very next play, this is your idea of good QB play in the postseason?

     

    This is a 10-6 team with a solid back up veteran QB with what would be around that kind of a QB here. Cassel went 11-5 in 2008, for example, and there is WAY, WAY more talent across the roster on offense now and on D compared to then. 

    We're a 13-3 or 14-2 team with him, but what does it matter if he's helping us to 13 or 17 points in these games? You're basically saying 13-17 points of scoring is enough for us to win.

    You expect our D to seriously hold teams to 12 or 13 points while he's tossing 2 or 3 INTs and passing over 40 times?

    Why?

     




    17 points is obviously enough to win as the Gints did in 2007.

     

    The D gave up the game winning drive both SB's and in the majority of losses since 2007.

    Do you know it's twice as likely to prevent a team from scoring as it is to score?

    Yup, 33% scoring % as apposed to 66% not.

    Do you know you would have to score on 50% of your drives with an even TD/FG ratio to score 20 points in a 8 possession game?

    Do you know the D allowed a 50% scoring percentage when just an average D only allows 33%?

    Do you know a D should only spend 2:38 on the field per possession, not 4:45?

    Do you know that NO SB TEAM has ever won with a higher than 87 DPR?

    Can you even imagine their DPR without TB blowing teams away, game after game after game?  Well, guess what happens when he can't. 

    They lose!

    An average QB on this team and they are the JETS, except the jest D is better, so maybe not even that.  Hell, every AFC E team has had a better D than the Pats.

    The 2-14 Rams had a better D in 2011.

    What they don't have is the QB and the coach.

     



    Did you just say the Giants won with 17 so it's "obviously" enough? So, a miracle aberration score in this day and age is the norm?

     

    Discussion over (before it even begins, lol). What a tool and loser.

    Show anyone here when any SB winner minus the David Tyree miracle helmet Giants' 17 points is normally enough in any SB in the last 20 years.  Go ahead. You can't do it.  It doesn't exist, you idiot!

    All of a sudden our legendary, world record breaking offense in 2007 shouldn't be scoring more than 17 points when they AVERAGED 30 all year.

    That's well below the average! Well below! Not even close! 2011's was also horrendous based on their output.

    11 points after 3 qtrs in 2010's loss to the Jets? Horrendous!   Horrendous! And, it's off a Bye week!

    BB didn't forget how to coach, moron, our finesse offense sucks donkey balls!

    You moron fantasy bandwagon losers love it all year so you can count your fantasy points and then run away when Brady's preference predictably SUCKS in January.

    Not debatable anymore. DONE.

     

     




    Did the Giants not win SB 42 with 17 points you freaken brain dead, troll?

     

    Did TB and the O not walk off the field with the lead up until the last 35 seconds and 57 seconds in both SB's?

    Did the D not allow the Gints to score on 50% of their possessions?

    Not an aberration at all when you only have 2/3rds of your possessions to try in score in or 2/3rd of the possessions to defend.

    The aberration IS the NUMBER OF POSSESSIONS, DOPE!!!!

    Why don't you go back and check how many SB's were such low possessions or rs games for that matter.  Go ahead, back up your big mouth... bass.

    I'll be waiting for that info.

    Game over, called due to forfeit of unworthy opponent.

     
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    I believe what Felger said was he doesn't like how certain questions weren't asked, like how does Brady feel about losing his favorite target again? How does he feel the defense has been inproved when it hasn't added a pass rusher? How does the drafting of this team affect the chances of them winning another Super Bowl? Because those were things King asked in a round about way at the end of his fluff piece on Brady, but he didn't actually ask Brady those things. Felger then said a fluff piece was ok 8 years ago when Brady was unbeaten in the playoffs and had won those Super Bowls...that is not the case now. 

     




    Ok, so why doesn't the media ask Brady this? Reiss has never done it. No one has.  I am not saying Brady censors King's or anyone's interviews, but it's maddening to not hear Brady address how he needs to improve. I fully realize it's sort of cornering him, but I am starting to wonder if he realizes how poor his last AFC title games really are or why INTs on 1st downs are so prevalent now.

     

    At best, at best, he'd been mediocre for like 7 years in the postseason! He's been inconsistent. He's been generally GREAT in the wild card or divisional round (Minus 2010), but he's been bad or average in the title games and SBs.

    You can't dispute this. So, I don't care about him at the Kentucky Derby or cleaning his moat or him throwing passes to Terrell Owens in LA.

    As a fan, I don't care about that.

    I want Brady to publicly acknowledge that he and he alone, as the leader of this team, needs to raise the bar, personally, because that will channel down to the rest of the team. And, then I want him to show me. Don't tell me your arm feels good or any of this other meaningless crap. Just go play and be smart, get under Center, target everyone, don't play favorites, and you'll be a better QB as a result.

    Thinking you're kind of above the kids in that locker room who don't have rings, etc, is getting really old, too. The staring down of the WR or TE who isn't perfect while he isn't even close to being perfect himself, looks bad.

    It's the consistency qtr to qtr, game to game that matters. Not some incredible 6 TD game vs 8-8 Denver and Tim Tebow. No Patriot fan worth his salt should give two squats about that stuff at this point.

    We're going to have an absolutely LOADED young D for the next few years and we're going to be wondering what Brady does at certain times in close games in January and hopefully February.

    It'd be nice if we can past the 20 point mark in those games, JUST ONCE.  Once.

    If we do win another SB, our D will hold to under 20 points, but our offense led by the supposed GOAT must led that offense to over 20 points.

     



    Really? He's not going to answer one single difficult question about himself or the team. This is what athletes of his stature do. Weather you believe it or not, he has reached that Michael Jordan, Gretzky level...average reporters aren't just going to ask him certain things. Not going to happen - plus it's not like this guy isn't playing at an elite level, just because you don't want to recognize it, doesn't mean the rest of the world doesn't see it that way.

     

     



    So, you're saying for the next 5 seasons here, he is above reproach in January or February? Then, what is the point of him saying his favorite ring is the next one, if he's all set with 3 and his Canton invitation?

     

    Care to answer that one?

    Your answer and attitude is my fear of what the problem has been. I don't care if he's Gretzky level or Larry Bird or whoever.  

     




    I'm not saying it's right, but I also think he is still playing at a very high level...I don't think he is the problem, if I thought he was the problem I'd agree with you here. When he becomes the problem I think people will fire away...people don't think he is the problem in the media (and I think they're right). You know how Boston is, as soon as they think you are on a decline they will crucify you...it doesn't matter who you are, but when you are playing at a elite level they aren't going to press you.

     

     




    He's been playing at a high level in the postseasons of late?  His stats are 28 TDs and 19 INTs in the postseason since 2005.  That's nowhere near representatitve of a QB playing at a high level.

     

    Since 2007, in 3 AFC title games, 8 TDs and 9 INTs. And you can't argue that Gronk was missing, because he was awful with a loaded cast in 2007, too.  So, it's not just because a great TE got hurt.

    We're not going to beat an elite AFC team or a great NFC team with a mediocre, or at times, subpar QB. It's just not going to happen.

    It's that simple. Why can't you and others just admit it and move on?

    These are real numbers and stats.  Nothing is made up.  I have sent an email to WEEI asking them for access to 2010 interview with Dennis and Callahan so I can show everyone where he said he prefers the shotgun, but no response so far. 

    I've Googled it and I can't find it. It was the Fall of 2010 and it was around the time Moss was dealt, either before or after. I am not making it up. It totally caught my eye and until he gets back under center and leans on our run game to establish a run with no gimmicks like a hurry up or shotgun spread base, it's going to be burned into my brain when we score 13 points off of 45+ passes and blowing a lead.

    So, most of this is on Brady, his preference of formations, audibles the autonommy he has to run a series of plays with full rein, etc.

    How many any real Pats fan be happy with how he's played lately?

     

     



    I really don't think he has been the post season problem, I think the defense has been. I think Brady has done well honestly. I and everyone knew he would struggle against Baltimore because they have one of the best pass defenses in the league...and he did. Now on both occasions Gronk was either out, or about to be out. I do think the last playoff game against Baltimore wasn't his best...he made a few mistakes and he didn't carry the team on his shoulders. That is the problem - he needs to carry this team on his shoulders and its not realistic to expect that in every playoff game. In the Super Bowl he would of won the MVP easily if we had won that game.

     

    I don't care if he likes playing in the shotgun - despite what you may think this team is far from being dominant in the running department. This team also does not house a Super Bowl quality defense...you need both to win a Super Bowl. I really believe this is a 7-9 team without Brady..that's not good enough.

     



    So, when our D bails him out in the 2007 AFC title game or Laura Maroney with 22 carries for 125 yards or when Spikes picks Flacco in the 2011 AFC title game, with Brady throwing yet another INT in the game on 1st down on the very next play, this is your idea of good QB play in the postseason?

     

    This is a 10-6 team with a solid back up veteran QB with what would be around that kind of a QB here. Cassel went 11-5 in 2008, for example, and there is WAY, WAY more talent across the roster on offense now and on D compared to then. 

    We're a 13-3 or 14-2 team with him, but what does it matter if he's helping us to 13 or 17 points in these games? You're basically saying 13-17 points of scoring is enough for us to win.

    You expect our D to seriously hold teams to 12 or 13 points while he's tossing 2 or 3 INTs and passing over 40 times?

    Why?

     




    17 points is obviously enough to win as the Gints did in 2007.

     

    The D gave up the game winning drive both SB's and in the majority of losses since 2007.

    Do you know it's twice as likely to prevent a team from scoring as it is to score?

    Yup, 33% scoring % as apposed to 66% not.

    Do you know you would have to score on 50% of your drives with an even TD/FG ratio to score 20 points in a 8 possession game?

    Do you know the D allowed a 50% scoring percentage when just an average D only allows 33%?

    Do you know a D should only spend 2:38 on the field per possession, not 4:45?

    Do you know that NO SB TEAM has ever won with a higher than 87 DPR?

    Can you even imagine their DPR without TB blowing teams away, game after game after game?  Well, guess what happens when he can't. 

    They lose!

    An average QB on this team and they are the JETS, except the jest D is better, so maybe not even that.  Hell, every AFC E team has had a better D than the Pats.

    The 2-14 Rams had a better D in 2011.

    What they don't have is the QB and the coach.

     



    Did you just say the Giants won with 17 so it's "obviously" enough? So, a miracle aberration score in this day and age is the norm?

     

    Discussion over (before it even begins, lol). What a tool and loser.

    Show anyone here when any SB winner minus the David Tyree miracle helmet Giants' 17 points is normally enough in any SB in the last 20 years.  Go ahead. You can't do it.  It doesn't exist, you idiot!

    All of a sudden our legendary, world record breaking offense in 2007 shouldn't be scoring more than 17 points when they AVERAGED 30 all year.

    That's well below the average! Well below! Not even close! 2011's was also horrendous based on their output.

    11 points after 3 qtrs in 2010's loss to the Jets? Horrendous!   Horrendous! And, it's off a Bye week!

    BB didn't forget how to coach, moron, our finesse offense sucks donkey balls!

    You moron fantasy bandwagon losers love it all year so you can count your fantasy points and then run away when Brady's preference predictably SUCKS in January.

    Not debatable anymore. DONE.

     

     




    Did the Giants not win SB 42 with 17 points you freaken brain dead, troll?

     

    Did TB and the O not walk off the field with the lead up until the last 35 seconds and 57 seconds in both SB's?

    Did the D not allow the Gints to score on 50% of their possessions?

    Game over, called due to forfeit.

     



    The Pats offense in 2007 was the all time greatest offense, statistically in NFL history, yet you think we should have only put up 18 points in an offensive era?

     

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    18 points is not even enough in 1975 let alone 2008, you inbred.

    It was the most embarrassing display anyone has ever seen an offense perform in sports history in terms of what they did in a regular season as compared to the postseason.

    It's Barry Bonds. It's the equivalent of the 1980s Edmonton Oilers running roughshod over the NHL and NEVER winning a Cup.

    No matter how you slice it, our D had like 4 future HOFers or potential HOFers on it in 2007.  In 2011, we didn't have anything like that at all.

    One D held for 10 points all game, the other, 13 points.

    What's the common denominator??!!!! Tom Brady's preferred shotgun spread and 40+ passes to try to score more than 17 points!

    Horrendous!

    They couldn't even get to 20 points!




    The common denominator is a D that allowed 50% scoring, and gave up the game winning drive and couldn't get off the field if they yelled "fire" which ate up 1/3rd of the O's scoring ability.

    The first drive in SB 42, they were on the field for 10 freaken minutes for cripes sake, and that was just 1/2 of one possession.   That's the equivalent of 4  average Defensive possessions! Stupid!

     
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    Im listening and theyre talking about Peter Kings article. Felger hates it and thinks that its "fluff". What he wants to know is why no one has asked him why he has been average in the playoffs compared to before. He wants Brady to answer this. Still think the gloss over "the Brady problem" and just bash BB whenever they can?



    The Patriot's offense has been average, or worse than their average, not Brady.  Football is a team sport.  QB's get way too much credit when teams win and too much blame when they don't... Iblame Colin Cowherd for constantly rating QB's week after week.

     
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    They allowed 10 points in SB 42 for 59 minutes. That's not a defensive problem. 

    Nor is 13 points in 57 minutes in SB 46.   You can't be bragging about our offense all year in those seasons and then ignoring an embarrassing output, led by Brady.  

     




    Consistently allowing the other team to score on the game losing drive IS a problem and a big one.  Both scores on both sides were low due to limited possessions, not because of some great D, but caused by a putrid one. 

    The ridiculously high DPR proves that!  Do you know what a DPR is?  Course not, it doesn't suit your agenda.

    Got those stats for me?  How many SB's had such low possessions in an era where the O has an advantage.  (supposedly)  Well, the Pats O sure didn't have an advantage in those games.    In Fact how many had such low possessions in any SB?  Gints/Bills?

    Waiting.................................................................................Once again, put up or shut up!

    You never do and never will.   Fact's, home work, knowledge, all those things you profess to master, joke!  Let's see it.

     
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    bravo felger, bravo.

     
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    I believe what Felger said was he doesn't like how certain questions weren't asked, like how does Brady feel about losing his favorite target again? How does he feel the defense has been inproved when it hasn't added a pass rusher? How does the drafting of this team affect the chances of them winning another Super Bowl? Because those were things King asked in a round about way at the end of his fluff piece on Brady, but he didn't actually ask Brady those things. Felger then said a fluff piece was ok 8 years ago when Brady was unbeaten in the playoffs and had won those Super Bowls...that is not the case now. 

     




    Ok, so why doesn't the media ask Brady this? Reiss has never done it. No one has.  I am not saying Brady censors King's or anyone's interviews, but it's maddening to not hear Brady address how he needs to improve. I fully realize it's sort of cornering him, but I am starting to wonder if he realizes how poor his last AFC title games really are or why INTs on 1st downs are so prevalent now.

     

    At best, at best, he'd been mediocre for like 7 years in the postseason! He's been inconsistent. He's been generally GREAT in the wild card or divisional round (Minus 2010), but he's been bad or average in the title games and SBs.

    You can't dispute this. So, I don't care about him at the Kentucky Derby or cleaning his moat or him throwing passes to Terrell Owens in LA.

    As a fan, I don't care about that.

    I want Brady to publicly acknowledge that he and he alone, as the leader of this team, needs to raise the bar, personally, because that will channel down to the rest of the team. And, then I want him to show me. Don't tell me your arm feels good or any of this other meaningless crap. Just go play and be smart, get under Center, target everyone, don't play favorites, and you'll be a better QB as a result.

    Thinking you're kind of above the kids in that locker room who don't have rings, etc, is getting really old, too. The staring down of the WR or TE who isn't perfect while he isn't even close to being perfect himself, looks bad.

    It's the consistency qtr to qtr, game to game that matters. Not some incredible 6 TD game vs 8-8 Denver and Tim Tebow. No Patriot fan worth his salt should give two squats about that stuff at this point.

    We're going to have an absolutely LOADED young D for the next few years and we're going to be wondering what Brady does at certain times in close games in January and hopefully February.

    It'd be nice if we can past the 20 point mark in those games, JUST ONCE.  Once.

    If we do win another SB, our D will hold to under 20 points, but our offense led by the supposed GOAT must led that offense to over 20 points.

     



    Really? He's not going to answer one single difficult question about himself or the team. This is what athletes of his stature do. Weather you believe it or not, he has reached that Michael Jordan, Gretzky level...average reporters aren't just going to ask him certain things. Not going to happen - plus it's not like this guy isn't playing at an elite level, just because you don't want to recognize it, doesn't mean the rest of the world doesn't see it that way.

     

     



    So, you're saying for the next 5 seasons here, he is above reproach in January or February? Then, what is the point of him saying his favorite ring is the next one, if he's all set with 3 and his Canton invitation?

     

    Care to answer that one?

    Your answer and attitude is my fear of what the problem has been. I don't care if he's Gretzky level or Larry Bird or whoever.  

     




    I'm not saying it's right, but I also think he is still playing at a very high level...I don't think he is the problem, if I thought he was the problem I'd agree with you here. When he becomes the problem I think people will fire away...people don't think he is the problem in the media (and I think they're right). You know how Boston is, as soon as they think you are on a decline they will crucify you...it doesn't matter who you are, but when you are playing at a elite level they aren't going to press you.

     

     




    He's been playing at a high level in the postseasons of late?  His stats are 28 TDs and 19 INTs in the postseason since 2005.  That's nowhere near representatitve of a QB playing at a high level.

     

    Since 2007, in 3 AFC title games, 8 TDs and 9 INTs. And you can't argue that Gronk was missing, because he was awful with a loaded cast in 2007, too.  So, it's not just because a great TE got hurt.

    We're not going to beat an elite AFC team or a great NFC team with a mediocre, or at times, subpar QB. It's just not going to happen.

    It's that simple. Why can't you and others just admit it and move on?

    These are real numbers and stats.  Nothing is made up.  I have sent an email to WEEI asking them for access to 2010 interview with Dennis and Callahan so I can show everyone where he said he prefers the shotgun, but no response so far. 

    I've Googled it and I can't find it. It was the Fall of 2010 and it was around the time Moss was dealt, either before or after. I am not making it up. It totally caught my eye and until he gets back under center and leans on our run game to establish a run with no gimmicks like a hurry up or shotgun spread base, it's going to be burned into my brain when we score 13 points off of 45+ passes and blowing a lead.

    So, most of this is on Brady, his preference of formations, audibles the autonommy he has to run a series of plays with full rein, etc.

    How many any real Pats fan be happy with how he's played lately?

     

     



    I really don't think he has been the post season problem, I think the defense has been. I think Brady has done well honestly. I and everyone knew he would struggle against Baltimore because they have one of the best pass defenses in the league...and he did. Now on both occasions Gronk was either out, or about to be out. I do think the last playoff game against Baltimore wasn't his best...he made a few mistakes and he didn't carry the team on his shoulders. That is the problem - he needs to carry this team on his shoulders and its not realistic to expect that in every playoff game. In the Super Bowl he would of won the MVP easily if we had won that game.

     

    I don't care if he likes playing in the shotgun - despite what you may think this team is far from being dominant in the running department. This team also does not house a Super Bowl quality defense...you need both to win a Super Bowl. I really believe this is a 7-9 team without Brady..that's not good enough.

     



    So, when our D bails him out in the 2007 AFC title game or Laura Maroney with 22 carries for 125 yards or when Spikes picks Flacco in the 2011 AFC title game, with Brady throwing yet another INT in the game on 1st down on the very next play, this is your idea of good QB play in the postseason?

     

    This is a 10-6 team with a solid back up veteran QB with what would be around that kind of a QB here. Cassel went 11-5 in 2008, for example, and there is WAY, WAY more talent across the roster on offense now and on D compared to then. 

    We're a 13-3 or 14-2 team with him, but what does it matter if he's helping us to 13 or 17 points in these games? You're basically saying 13-17 points of scoring is enough for us to win.

    You expect our D to seriously hold teams to 12 or 13 points while he's tossing 2 or 3 INTs and passing over 40 times?

    Why?

     




    17 points is obviously enough to win as the Gints did in 2007.

     

    The D gave up the game winning drive both SB's and in the majority of losses since 2007.

    Do you know it's twice as likely to prevent a team from scoring as it is to score?

    Yup, 33% scoring % as apposed to 66% not.

    Do you know you would have to score on 50% of your drives with an even TD/FG ratio to score 20 points in a 8 possession game?

    Do you know the D allowed a 50% scoring percentage when just an average D only allows 33%?

    Do you know a D should only spend 2:38 on the field per possession, not 4:45?

    Do you know that NO SB TEAM has ever won with a higher than 87 DPR?

    Can you even imagine their DPR without TB blowing teams away, game after game after game?  Well, guess what happens when he can't. 

    They lose!

    An average QB on this team and they are the JETS, except the jest D is better, so maybe not even that.  Hell, every AFC E team has had a better D than the Pats.

    The 2-14 Rams had a better D in 2011.

    What they don't have is the QB and the coach.

     



    Did you just say the Giants won with 17 so it's "obviously" enough? So, a miracle aberration score in this day and age is the norm?

     

    Discussion over (before it even begins, lol). What a tool and loser.

    Show anyone here when any SB winner minus the David Tyree miracle helmet Giants' 17 points is normally enough in any SB in the last 20 years.  Go ahead. You can't do it.  It doesn't exist, you idiot!

    All of a sudden our legendary, world record breaking offense in 2007 shouldn't be scoring more than 17 points when they AVERAGED 30 all year.

    That's well below the average! Well below! Not even close! 2011's was also horrendous based on their output.

    11 points after 3 qtrs in 2010's loss to the Jets? Horrendous!   Horrendous! And, it's off a Bye week!

    BB didn't forget how to coach, moron, our finesse offense sucks donkey balls!

    You moron fantasy bandwagon losers love it all year so you can count your fantasy points and then run away when Brady's preference predictably SUCKS in January.

    Not debatable anymore. DONE.

     

     




    Did the Giants not win SB 42 with 17 points you freaken brain dead, troll?

     

    Did TB and the O not walk off the field with the lead up until the last 35 seconds and 57 seconds in both SB's?

    Did the D not allow the Gints to score on 50% of their possessions?

    Game over, called due to forfeit.

     



    The Pats offense in 2007 was the all time greatest offense, statistically in NFL history, yet you think we should have only put up 18 points in an offensive era?

     

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    18 points is not even enough in 1975 let alone 2008, you inbred.

    It was the most embarrassing display anyone has ever seen an offense perform in sports history in terms of what they did in a regular season as compared to the postseason.

    It's Barry Bonds. It's the equivalent of the 1980s Edmonton Oilers running roughshod over the NHL and NEVER winning a Cup.

    No matter how you slice it, our D had like 4 future HOFers or potential HOFers on it in 2007.  In 2011, we didn't have anything like that at all.

    One D held for 10 points all game, the other, 13 points.

    What's the common denominator??!!!! Tom Brady's preferred shotgun spread and 40+ passes to try to score more than 17 points!

    Horrendous!

    They couldn't even get to 20 points!

     




    The common denominator is a D that allowed 50% scoring, and gave up the game winning drive and couldn't get off the field if they yelled "fire" which ate up 1/3rd of the O's scoring ability.

     

    The first drive in SB 42, they were on the field for 10 freaken minutes for cripes sake, and that was just 1/2 of one possession.   That's the equivalent of 4  average Defensive possessions! Stupid!




    It's the equivalent of the 1980s Edmonton Oilers running roughshod over the NHL and NEVER winning a Cup.

     

    the edmonton oilers won 4 cups in the 1980's russ

     
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    Re: Felger's Question

    What a non-story.

    How many times do you want Brady to say he played like crap? Or Welker to say he should have made that catch, or _____ to say he missed an assignment? Sh@t happens. Pats players usually step up to the mike and take the blame. As does the coaching staff. It is a team game in a single elimination tournament. Best team does not always win, and it is difficult to beat a very good team twice in a year which is often what has happened to the Pats in the playoffs.

    We seem to have a bunch of posters who believe the Pats should win out every year or that it is a simple thing to 'fix' a defense or offense each year. All you have to look at is McCourty's career to see how difficult it is to project from year to year - PB corner, to disaster, to good safety over a 3 year period. Add in that NFL success hinges on the injury lists as well and it can be a nightmare. And this is not baseball or basketball where you can just go out and buy, you have a hard salary cap. And most teams that try to buy a SB end up as total disasters.

     
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    Re: Felger's Question

    In response to BassFishingII's comment:

    In response to mthurl's comment:

     

    I believe what Felger said was he doesn't like how certain questions weren't asked, like how does Brady feel about losing his favorite target again? How does he feel the defense has been inproved when it hasn't added a pass rusher? How does the drafting of this team affect the chances of them winning another Super Bowl? Because those were things King asked in a round about way at the end of his fluff piece on Brady, but he didn't actually ask Brady those things. Felger then said a fluff piece was ok 8 years ago when Brady was unbeaten in the playoffs and had won those Super Bowls...that is not the case now. 

     




    Ok, so why doesn't the media ask Brady this? Reiss has never done it. No one has.  I am not saying Brady censors King's or anyone's interviews, but it's maddening to not hear Brady address how he needs to improve. I fully realize it's sort of cornering him, but I am starting to wonder if he realizes how poor his last AFC title games really are or why INTs on 1st downs are so prevalent now.

     

    At best, at best, he'd been mediocre for like 7 years in the postseason! He's been inconsistent. He's been generally GREAT in the wild card or divisional round (Minus 2010), but he's been bad or average in the title games and SBs.

    You can't dispute this. So, I don't care about him at the Kentucky Derby or cleaning his moat or him throwing passes to Terrell Owens in LA.

    As a fan, I don't care about that.

    I want Brady to publicly acknowledge that he and he alone, as the leader of this team, needs to raise the bar, personally, because that will channel down to the rest of the team. And, then I want him to show me. Don't tell me your arm feels good or any of this other meaningless crap. Just go play and be smart, get under Center, target everyone, don't play favorites, and you'll be a better QB as a result.

    Thinking you're kind of above the kids in that locker room who don't have rings, etc, is getting really old, too. The staring down of the WR or TE who isn't perfect while he isn't even close to being perfect himself, looks bad.

    It's the consistency qtr to qtr, game to game that matters. Not some incredible 6 TD game vs 8-8 Denver and Tim Tebow. No Patriot fan worth his salt should give two squats about that stuff at this point.

    We're going to have an absolutely LOADED young D for the next few years and we're going to be wondering what Brady does at certain times in close games in January and hopefully February.

    It'd be nice if we can past the 20 point mark in those games, JUST ONCE.  Once.

    If we do win another SB, our D will hold to under 20 points, but our offense led by the supposed GOAT must led that offense to over 20 points.




    Get a Life! Noone OWES you anything. If anything, Brady Owes you a beatdown for being continually slammed by a no life loser such as yourself. Stop Trolling! Havent you been banned enough??? Is there something wrong with your comprehension skills that you continue to not follow rules and have the nerve to try to enforce these rules to others! Wow....Seek Help Buddy! Its sad when I can come on here any time of any day and catch you lying and trolling and Brady Bashing!

     

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