An injured Fred Taylor is better than a healthy you-know-who
Fred Taylor Hurt Again
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Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again
posted at 9/16/2010 7:00 PM EDT
- themightypatriotz
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Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again
posted at 9/16/2010 7:01 PM EDT
- kansaspatriot
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he'll just have to trudge along and paly like other do with shoulder injuries, rib injuries, finger injuries. that's what a Patriot does, and they don't wimper -
Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again
posted at 9/16/2010 7:01 PM EDT
- NoPinkHatPatsFans
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He had full participation. He isn't hurt. -
Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again
posted at 9/16/2010 7:01 PM EDT
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In Response to Fred Taylor Hurt Again:Here we go again...this time it's his toe. The injury is believed to be not serious. But, the bottom line is, the Pats 34 year old starting RB is dinged up, again: http://www.examiner.com/sports-in-boston/patriots-rb-fred-taylor-limited-practice-with-a-toe-injury
Posted by TexasPat3
I'm very surprised by this news.
Not. -
Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again
posted at 9/16/2010 7:15 PM EDT
- mrmojo1120
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From WEEI.com:Patriots Injury Report for Thursday
Did Not Practice
OL Nick Kaczur (back)
CB Terrence Wheatley (foot)
Limited Participation
WR Julian Edelman (foot)
Full Participation
RB Fred Taylor (toe)
QB Tom Brady (right shoulder) -
Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again
posted at 9/16/2010 7:20 PM EDT
- TexasPat3
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Don't be surprised if the Pats make a run at RB Rams' Steven Jackson, either this year or next. The offer will likely be something like their own 2nd, and the 4th round pick, acquired from Denver in the Maroney deal. No way will the Pats spend a high #1 pick on a RB.
The way Jackson's contract is structured gives the Pats a legitimate shot at getting him, at a fairly reasonable price: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp08/news/story?id=3546615 -
Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again
posted at 9/16/2010 7:23 PM EDT
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Of course we all knew that Taylor would get hurt (Morris probably will, too), but you'd like to see the guy get through more than one game. And although this is in no way surprising, it seems a bit ironic as the Pats just traded away dependable (if frustrating) running back depth for what amounts to nothing.
I can only assume Belichick knows something about Law Firm that we don't. -
Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again
posted at 9/16/2010 7:26 PM EDT
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An injured Fred Taylor is better than a healthy you-know-who
Posted by themightypatriotz
lol Mighty, I think you are happier with Maroney being traded than you were with the Pats win on Sunday.
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Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again
posted at 9/16/2010 7:30 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again:Of course we all knew that Taylor would get hurt (Morris probably will, too), but you'd like to see the guy get through more than one game. And although this is in no way surprising, it seems a bit ironic as the Pats just traded away dependable (if frustrating) running back depth for what amounts to nothing. I can only assume Belichick knows something about Law Firm that we don't.
Posted by p-mike
My point exactly. We all know that neither Taylor or Morris will last anywhere near the entire season. I'm not necessarily saying that Maroney shouldn't have been traded. I think him catching fumble-itis last year finished him with BB. I am saying that the trade makes the Pats thin at RB. -
Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again
posted at 9/16/2010 7:58 PM EDT
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Didn't Taylor have full participation in practice today? Must not have been injured too badly. -
Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again
posted at 9/16/2010 8:01 PM EDT
- mthurl
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I like the way Taylor and Morris run and they are both clearly better than Maroney, but they both will get hurt. In my opinion this was a little of a surprise move to deplete their depth like that. It's very telling of what they thought about Maroney and really they are right, he gives you very little and perhaps Ellis can give you depth, but is it enough? -
Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again
posted at 9/16/2010 8:13 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again:Of course we all knew that Taylor would get hurt (Morris probably will, too), but...I can only assume Belichick knows something about Law Firm that we don't.
Posted by p-mikeor something about Maroney that we don't... -
Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again
posted at 9/16/2010 8:20 PM EDT
- TrueChamp
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Make no mistake about it. This was a Richard Seymour type deal. We figured we would sacrifice the now for the future. I know this is a touchy subject but sooner then later we will need to focus on this season, rather then trade away win now personnel for future "GAMBLES". Like him or not Maroney helped us win games.
Perhaps Belichick knows BJGE plays 15 # bigger then he is, or runs .3 seconds faster then he does, or...well you get the point. This deal was not because Law Firm is the answer. Its politics. Its business. Its the Patriots. You don't always like what they do, but you always love them. -
Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again
posted at 9/16/2010 8:27 PM EDT
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Where is our Corey Dillon beastie this year?
C'mon Grendel! -
Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again
posted at 9/16/2010 8:33 PM EDT
- 81patsfan
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In Response to Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again:In Response to Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again : My point exactly. We all know that neither Taylor or Morris will last anywhere near the entire season. I'm not necessarily saying that Maroney shouldn't have been traded. I think him catching fumble-itis last year finished him with BB. I am saying that the trade makes the Pats thin at RB.
Posted by TexasPat3
How are we thin at running back? we have 3 running backs 4 if u wanna count faulk and i read on boston herald that they promoted one of the practice squad running backs, Also we barely run the ball anyway so i think with the four we have and a nice mix then we should be fine there. -
Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again
posted at 9/16/2010 8:52 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again:Don't be surprised if the Pats make a run at RB Rams' Steven Jackson, either this year or next. The offer will likely be something like their own 2nd, and the 4th round pick, acquired from Denver in the Maroney deal. No way will the Pats spend a high #1 pick on a RB. The way Jackson's contract is structured gives the Pats a legitimate shot at getting him, at a fairly reasonable price: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp08/news/story?id=3546615
Posted by TexasPat3
And for what reason would St. Louis want to get rid of Steven Jackson, especially since he has a "fairly reasonable" contract? And, doesn't he get hurt alot anyways???? -
Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again
posted at 9/16/2010 9:21 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again:In Response to Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again : How are we thin at running back? we have 3 running backs 4 if u wanna count faulk and i read on boston herald that they promoted one of the practice squad running backs, Also we barely run the ball anyway so i think with the four we have and a nice mix then we should be fine there.
Posted by 81patsfan
Fred Taylor is 34...while Morris and Faulk are 33. All are ancient by RB standards. Morris and Taylor have histories of being brittle. Being old and injury prone is a terrible combo for an NFL RB. -
Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again
posted at 9/16/2010 9:21 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again:Make no mistake about it. This was a Richard Seymour type deal. We figured we would sacrifice the now for the future. I know this is a touchy subject but sooner then later we will need to focus on this season, rather then trade away win now personnel for future "GAMBLES". Like him or not Maroney helped us win games. Perhaps Belichick knows BJGE plays 15 # bigger then he is, or runs .3 seconds faster then he does, or...well you get the point. This deal was not because Law Firm is the answer. Its politics. Its business. Its the Patriots. You don't always like what they do, but you always love them.
Posted by TrueChampI kinda sorta agree with you. Maroney was likely gone next year. One big difference between Seymour and Maroney is where they sat on the depth chart. Seymour was a starter, and Maroney was looking like #4 on the depth chart. Piece together the different remarks and how far Maroney sank down the roster and you have to believe there were other factors besides pure running ability or even "business" that went into this. We'll never know unless BB retires and writes a "tell all" book. Now that would be a book I'd wait in line for. -
Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again
posted at 9/16/2010 9:24 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again:In Response to Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again : And for what reason would St. Louis want to get rid of Steven Jackson, especially since he has a "fairly reasonable" contract? And, doesn't he get hurt alot anyways????
Posted by tmot1234
Why? Because the Rams are terrible...with him or without him. If they pick up his option during the last two years of his contract, he'll cost them a fortune. If they don't pick up his option, he becomes an unrestricted free agent. -
Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again
posted at 9/16/2010 9:27 PM EDT
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I can't wait for one of these threads damn near every week because Taylor and Morris don't fully participate in practice. Most times it by design. -
Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again
posted at 9/16/2010 9:57 PM EDT
- croc
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And guess what neither does Brady. Non thread -
Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again
posted at 9/16/2010 10:58 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again:Don't be surprised if the Pats make a run at RB Rams' Steven Jackson, either this year or next. The offer will likely be something like their own 2nd, and the 4th round pick, acquired from Denver in the Maroney deal. No way will the Pats spend a high #1 pick on a RB. The way Jackson's contract is structured gives the Pats a legitimate shot at getting him, at a fairly reasonable price: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp08/news/story?id=3546615
Posted by TexasPat3
I would love to see a player of jackson's caliber in our stable of RB's but there is no way the rams trade him. He is their only offensive weapon and he is signed long term. -
Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again
posted at 9/16/2010 11:06 PM EDT
- themightypatriotz
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Fred Taylor is hurt. But there's good news ... -
Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again
posted at 9/16/2010 11:07 PM EDT
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... Maroney ain't gettin the ball! -
Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again
posted at 9/16/2010 11:28 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again:In Response to Re: Fred Taylor Hurt Again : Fred Taylor is 34...while Morris and Faulk are 33. All are ancient by RB standards. Morris and Taylor have histories of being brittle. Being old and injury prone is a terrible combo for an NFL RB.
Posted by TexasPat3
Maroney was a health risk also. I'm guessing they felt like the step down from Maroney to fill-in-the-blank [Javarris James?] wasn't all that steep. This is not a Seymour type trade. Maroney isn't half the player Seymour is at his position.