Re: gasoline to the
posted at 11/1/2013 6:26 AM EDT
In response to Low-FB-IQ's comment:
In response to pezz4pats' comment:
In response to Low-FB-IQ's comment:
In response to pcmIV's comment:
If the GM trades higher picks for more lower picks, but gets more total value out of those picks it is a better strategy. Computing value per pick assumes all picks are created equal. You are the one spinning Babe. The point of the draft is to get the most value you can get, not maximize per pick efficiency.
Not when your value picks turn out to have no value. When injury prone players get injured repeatedly and character issue guys murder or punch people, or get suspended for substance abuse.
And not when you are using those added 2nd round picks on 5th-7th round talent..against the advice of your scouts. Do they REALLY need 2nd round ST players, when there was a position of need (the same position of need for years) not satisfied? AGAIN!
Do you really need 12 and 14 picks in a draft when only 3 of them are keepers?
No, no one is perfect and are all going to miss but when you constantly pick value due to "ISSUES", is it any wonder? Haven't you lowered your chances of success, further, by doing all of the above?
Depends on what report you choose to read and believe. They all use different criteria as that is what statisticians do to fit their arguments. I have read ones that say as soon as you hit round 2 it is 50/50 on likelihood of getting player that will last??
Bottom line is that you are trying to make a total evaluation of the player. Athletic ability, Mental ability, character ability, system fit, durability, desire and passion for the game that is sustainable even after becoming a fat cat etc.
The method you use to take a shot at getting more of those players into your system whether they stay in your program or not is irrelevant.
I am not sure why I am bothering to respond to you since you put blinders on once your mind is made up but...
These are more important numbers, to me, for "total" player evaluation. 2003-2012 draft numbers.
In that span of time it the Pats have had the lowest average draft position during that time.
In that span of time the Patriots have had the most drafted players make it to the probowl but honestly how much can you care about pro bowls?? No one can really take the voting very seriously can they?
The most important one for me would be how many active drafted players were still in the league. The Patriots were not first. However they were tied for 6th most. Seems pretty good to me. Especially with the lowest avg draft position in that time span. The number of picks had by each team is irrelevant to me. ALL teams have the same options to use whatever method they feel yields them the most players who can play and sustain in the NFL.
If you are trying to judge an organizations ability to judge the "total and complete" player then that is one of the more important ones to me. Especially if you tie it in with probowl appearances as well.
Does anyone have any idea how many GM's have been in place for that entire span of time for one team?
How many drafted players are active is a trifling factor. Who cares if you have selected the most scrubs who manage to hang on in the NFL? That isn't going to win you SBs.
Pro-bowl is another hit or miss measure. While many are deserving of the nod, many being placed there is a mystery.
All-pro years isn't a perfect measure, but it is probably considerably better than the above.
The one true indisputable measure, is Lombardi trophies.