George Zimmerman Verdict

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    On principle alone, he has to go to jail. Murder 2, 10 years.  When you get out, maybe earlier on good behavior, you can move on and maybe lecture young people on the dangers of carrying guns and engaging strangers on the streets when you aren't licensed to be doing that in first place.

     

     



    Ahhh, wacko, they don't send people to jail "on principle". Otherwise you would be serving a life sentence. LMAO@U

     

    [/QUOTE] Also Russ in Florida you get 25 to life for murder in the second degree, and there is no parole until you've served 25 years. As for the manslaughter offense which was the lesser included charge you get 10 to 30 years to be determined by the court, and with a gun enhancement you could figure to do about 15 minimum. It's like playing Let's make a deal: Johnny tell the guilty guy whats behind door number one: 25 to life, Door number two has a potential of up to 30 years Johnny tell the not guilty guy whats behind Door number three: is you go free! He was lucky that there were 6 people who decided he would get #3. An irrational human being would have selected either of the other two doors in this case.


     
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    I'm just wondering when Zimmerman became racist? How did that happen? Zimmerman voted for Obama and is a registered democrat. He did not mention color to the police before the police asked for a description. He didn't use any racial slur and lives in a mixed race area where they trust him enough to make him captian of the neighborhood watch. Additionally he considers himself hispanic and actually has more hispanic heritage than Obama has african heritage. So I ask again why is he suddenly considered a racist white gun touting republican when there is zero evidence to suggest any of that other than he carries a gun? Which btw many democrats carry/own guns.

    BTW Martin called Zimmerman a "creepy a** cracker" and last time I checked cracker is a racial slur for white guy. So, why is it racism only went one way in this case? Other than that one racial slur by Martin their is zero evidence that any racism was involved in the case at all. Just because one person had light skin and one darker doesn't instantly make it racist. When are people going to realize that? Not to mention that Zimmerman has followed multiple races and reported them to the police during his time on the neighborhood watch in which one was actually a burglar and was arrested.


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    Just a few questions...

    So if I live in an area that has crime and the cops aren't stopping it, that I am suppose to stay in my house and do nothing? go outside with just my bare hands? Or do I let it become like Chicago?

    If I am describing some one I see in the neighborhood who is acting strange to me and I call 911 and they ask me to describe the person - I am not to say what color that person is?

    I can legally carry a gun but i am never supposed to use it?

    Maybe GZ  should have carried a TASER instead? maybe not?

    Do you realize that this neighborhood is mixed racially?

    Did you know that a very high % of Blacks have used the Stand Your Ground Defense?

    Does anyone ever think that GZ, thinking TM might be a criminal, that GZ just might think that the criminal might also have a gun? (something the prosecutors couldn't imagine)

    Has it been lost that GZ was not in his car when the 911 operator - asked GZ where the suspect was, then in a little bit told GZ it wasn't a good idea to follow and GZ said OK and stopped?

    Does any one think that GZ called 911, knew the cops were coming and then went out to kill the black? Really? or do you think like the prosecutors?

    The facts show that TM lost GZ thru the houses and 4 minutes after the last TM phone call that then TM and GZ met again?

    Does anyone seriously believe that TM couldn't run faster then GZ?

    Do you realize TM could have been home in a minute or less?

    Isn't it possible that Miss Jentile put the fear of a Gay Rapist in TM's head and that could be why TM beat the hell out of GZ?

    Did you know the prosecutors hid evidence - like data on TM's cell?

    Since we know that the cops can track cell phone movements , why don't we have that evidence? or is this more stuff that the procesutors have hidden?

    Did you know that GZ thru lawyers tried to convey their sorrow to the Martins in the very beginning and the TM lawyers refused to allow it?

    Aren't the Media, the race hustlers and the Pols responsible for this whole trial getting out of hand? Aren't they the only winners in this whole mess?

    When did we become mob rule? with the NAACP ,Sharpton, Jackson demanding a criminal charge with out probable cause ? - just like the 1st trial?

    Wouldn't that mean that every shooting between races would have to be tried by the FEDS? - or only when a black gets shot? as the Justice Department seems to do

    Did you know that the TM family has already received $1M from the Homeowners ASSoc?

    Who doesn't believe that this is and was a tragedy? Rhetorical question I hope

     

     




    What is this "become like Chicago" crap?  Some people are clueless. I lived there for 5 years, never had one issue.   Every big city has their fair share of brutal crimes. 

     

     

    Please leave home and travel and get some culture and context before babbling about things you know little about. You sound ridiculous.

    Bottom line is Zimmertool thinks he is a cop, initiated a confrontation because the cops weren't there within 2 minutes and he took matters into his own hands, wielding a firearm in the process.

    See, our legal system is about money.  Racists donated to Zimmertool's cause, thrilled that a black kid is dead, and off he goes with no accounatbility in murdering a child.  Super.

    Babe probably donated to his cause with his King James at the ready at Magnolia Manor.

     


    Russ, this post is outrageous, nonsensical, and simply inflamatory. Come on man, don't let folks push you off the deep end like this. Yo don't need anymore negative PR, Dude.

     

     

     

     

     




    How is it inflammatory? I'll be honest with you...My dad is a raging right winger and it's become embarrassing. He also thinks most blacks are up to no good, criminals, etc. 

     

     

     

     

    There is a clear tone by some here on this thread that would indicate they're bigots as well, and I just don't think that is a good way to lead your life.  

    Look at Babe.  Many here are old man white Republican types who are very likely bigots as well and don't admit it or play off like they aren't.  It's the truth.  Behind his comments is a bigoted old, VERY CONSERVTIVE grumpy man.

    I will say on the flipside, the black people who are marching and protesting wouldn't be out there if Martin was Asian, White, or Hispanic.  So, their racial intentions aren't innocent either here.  This isn't necessarily about race, but the racists want it to be.  That's my issue with some of the comments I am reading here.

    It should be about fact, reality and principle. The fact is, this tool (Zimmerman) thought he was a cop and has the right to approach a kid, asking questions and deciding himselfly  how to handle a situation. THAT in itself should be flat out ILLEGAL to do in our society.  Period. No debate.  The fact Zimmertool did that and is not held accountable tells any tool with a gun he can do the same thing in this country, and that's wrong. Flat out wrong and not defensible.

    The reason people keep babbling about Chicago (that city has been top 3 in murder rate for like 80 years) is because Obama is from there and Obama is black.  Gee, let's blame Obama for 80+ years of South Side violence in Chicago during the Great Recession not created by Obama! Yay!

    Otherwise, why do people keep mentioning CHicago when murder and crime come up in a discussion?

    I live in a city, where per capita, no lie, it has to be top 5 in the country with crime and murder with the segregrated part of this city. Great little city to live in, but it has its dark side, which all cities pretty much do.   Do people reference this city (Durham, NC) as a high crime city? Nope. It's always Chicago or Detroit.  What about New Orleans? LA? Dallas? You can't even go dowtown in Dallas, it's so limited due to safety issues.

    Finally, it's also HIGHLY comical to me, that Babe has called you Rusty here for months and he's now trying to align with you, acknowledging you are in fact a different person. lol

    So, be careful who you aling with here. He's a cuckoo bird.

     

     

     



    Russ, Babe has obviously been around for some time. He has a legit perspective on these issues. Just because he and others including myself are looking from the perspective of what the Court system has been forced to do and adjudicate, and agree with the decision that was made BASED ON THE EVIDENCE, FACTS AVAILABLE shouldn't make you and others upset. You said in your above post:

     

     

     

    "It should be about fact, reality and principle. The fact is, this tool (Zimmerman) thought he was a cop and has the right to approach a kid, asking questions and deciding himselfly  how to handle a situation. THAT in itself should be flat out ILLEGAL to do in our society.  Period. No debate.  The fact Zimmertool did that and is not held accountable tells any tool with a gun he can do the same thing in this country, and that's wrong. Flat out wrong and not defensible."

    Here's where your argument is criticall flawed:

    Fact, reality and principle cannot be lumped together and simultaneously used to interpret information when addressing this issue. FACT AND REALITY are what is physically proven and are unchangeable constants, while PRINCIPLE is SUBJECTIVE to an individual person's preferences, judgments, and experiences in life. PRINCIPLES vary from one neighborhood and culture to the next.  You imply that "fact is, this tool (Zimmerman) thought he was a cop". How can you say what you think GZ was thinking and on tip of it insist it is a fact? None of us can read minds. What you mean is what you think GZ was thinking.  The entire paragraph is BS but it is waht your arguemnt has been from the beginning. I have seen you argue points in the past without using such crap and weak rhetoric. The FACTS PROVED THAT GZ IS STILL INNOCENT. YOU CAN DEBATE IT, BUT THEJURY AND THE DECISIN SPEAKS THE TRUTH AS WE KNOW THE FACTS. It really is that simple.  Eveyone is going to speculate and I don't like what GZ did. Too bad for me too.........................

     

     




     

     

    Did Zimmerman leave is car after he called 911 or not?  I agree it doesn't matter what Zimmertool was thinking, nor what Martin was thinking, but if he leaves his car to engage, that's all I want to know.

    I agree there is no proof who physically attacked who first, so that's not even in the discussion.

    Zimmerman, his own defense team, said he left his car.  That's all I need to know for Murder 2.  I don't think he intended to kill him. I don't. I don't even think this was a racial situation. I think we have a tool who thinks he's a wannabe cop and went above the law, with a gun going off, and someone dying.

    On principle alone, he has to go to jail. Murder 2, 10 years.  When you get out, maybe earlier on good behavior, you can move on and maybe lecture young people on the dangers of carrying guns and engaging strangers on the streets when you aren't licensed to be doing that in first place.

    But, at minimum, at minimum, he's going to jail for a death.  

    You can't run someone over hammered and not go to jail, well, unless you pay off the court like Stallworth did. 

    Defending these injustices is ridiculous.

     


    Russ, YOU ARE DEAD WRONG. There is proof that TM hit GZ first. It was presented in the court. You can specualte that it isn't the truth, but the jury MUST go by what the evidence shows. Like it or not, THAT IS FACT. GZ did leave his car to tail TM. That is not illegal. PERIOD. You, like some others here, think GZ is wrong for being concerned, and that is all that was proven, GZ WAS CONCERNED based on very recent events and then got hit by someone who thinks like you do, that TM had the right to hit GZ. He didn't have that right, and according to the evidence and results, the courts agree. THINK MAN.

     

     
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    I'm just wondering when Zimmerman became racist? How did that happen? Zimmerman voted for Obama and is a registered democrat. He did not mention color to the police before the police asked for a description. He didn't use any racial slur and lives in a mixed race area where they trust him enough to make him captian of the neighborhood watch. Additionally he considers himself hispanic and actually has more hispanic heritage than Obama has african heritage. So I ask again why is he suddenly considered a racist white gun touting republican when there is zero evidence to suggest any of that other than he carries a gun? Which btw many democrats carry/own guns.

    BTW Martin called Zimmerman a "creepy a** cracker" and last time I checked cracker is a racial slur for white guy. So, why is it racism only went one way in this case? Other than that one racial slur by Martin their is zero evidence that any racism was involved in the case at all. Just because one person had light skin and one darker doesn't instantly make it racist. When are people going to realize that? Not to mention that Zimmerman has followed multiple races and reported them to the police during his time on the neighborhood watch in which one was actually a burglar and was arrested.


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    Why? Because it suits the agenda of the libs to do so. That's how they roll in almost every case. Mindless loyalty to the party line.

     
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    Russ, YOU ARE DEAD WRONG. There is proof that TM hit GZ first. It was presented in the court. You can specualte that it isn't the truth, but the jury MUST go by what the evidence shows. Like it or not, THAT IS FACT. GZ did leave his car to tail TM. That is not illegal. PERIOD. You like some others here think GZ is wrong for being concerned, and that is all that was proven, HE WAS CONCERNED and them got hit by someone who thinks like you do, that TM had the righ tto hit GZ. THINK MAN.

     


    You are asking the impossible.

     
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    I know I am late to this discussion and it is all over the place, lots of emotion.

    I wish I can recall the website posted to one of my contacts in facebook which provided strictly factual information about this matter with no editorializing.  Very interesting and it provided a lot of information the press DID NOT want the general public to know about what went on.  Some key points:

    1. Zimmerman had all legal rights to observe/follow Martin.  What would you expect from a neighborhood watch person?
    2. The neighborhood has documented evidence of numerous breakins and robberies all committed, unfortunately, by young, African-American youths in recent weeks.
    3. The 911 call did not instruct Zimmerman to "not follow" Martin, they advised him he did not have to do that.
    4. Zimmerman simply reported a "suspicious person: was walking around in his neighborhood, no description given initially to the 911 person.  Only when prompted by the 911 operator did Zimmerman offer the person "may be black".  This is on the tape.
    5. Martin had a storied past, getting kicked out of many HSs and kicked out by his mom to live with his dad.
    6. Zimmerman appears to have no racial motivation towards African-Americans as he tutors many and works with many such groups all the time.
    7. According to testimony, Zimmerman stepped out of his truck to look at a street sign to see where he was in the community.  It was at that time Martin approached him.  MArtin could have simply said " I live at my Dad's GF house right down the street.", but instead Martin proceeded to punch Zimmerman in the nose, breaking it, knocking him to the ground and began his "ground and pound" punching of Zimmerman.  Zimmerman had all the injuries to prove this while Martin's only injuries, other than the gun shot, were bruised knuckles from punching Zimmerman.
    8. Zimmerman shot Martin while he was on the ground with Martin on top, apparently after about 40 seconds or more of getting beaten.
    9. Zimmerman did not "stalk and shoot" Martin as the press has led everyone to believe. 

    Unfortunately the press was Zimmerman's greatest enemy.  A too juicy racial story to let go.  If this had been a black on black, hispanic on hispanic, white on white or black on white, we would have never seen this case make the light of day like we did. 

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    If someone got out of a car, after asking you questions, and followed you on foot, would you not defend yourself as you reached to call 911????? 



    Of course not dumbkoff. Sane people don't "defend" themselves with fists because somebody "followed" them. Your madness is on display like never before.

     

     
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    wondering what on god's green earth a toadwart tool is doing stalking him



    I must admit, I was ROFL when I read that.  Sometimes you come up with a doozie.

     
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    Russ, YOU ARE DEAD WRONG. There is proof that TM hit GZ first. It was presented in the court. You can specualte that it isn't the truth, but the jury MUST go by what the evidence shows. Like it or not, THAT IS FACT. GZ did leave his car to tail TM. That is not illegal. PERIOD. You like some others here think GZ is wrong for being concerned, and that is all that was proven, HE WAS CONCERNED and them got hit by someone who thinks like you do, that TM had the righ tto hit GZ. THINK MAN.

     

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    I didn't say it was illegal to leave one's car and follow someone, but it would explain why Martin was defending himself.

     

    If someone got out of a car, after asking you questions, and followed you on foot, would you not defend yourself as you reached to call 911?????  Of course you would! Who does stuff like this or thinks that stuff is normal?

    Who are you kidding here? You make the worst argument ever. Martin being proactive in self defense, wondering what on god's green earth a toadwart tool is doing stalking him and following him, is not Martin initiating anything.

    Zimmertool was not announcing himself as an undercover cop, presenting a badge, nothing. 

    No citizen or civilian has any business confronting another, especially at night like that, while armed.

    Period.

    You're acting like Zimmertool stole Martin's gun from him in order to defend himself, which is completely false.

    The second that tool left his car to take it upon himself to play police officer is the second he proved himself the aggressor in the incident. End of story.

     

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    RUSS, WHAT THE HELL IS "PROACTIVE SELF-DEFENSE"? This means TM struck before he needed too! Ironically, you nailed it and that is exactly why he got shot. Great point man. 

     
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    wondering what on god's green earth a toadwart tool is doing stalking him

     

     



    I must admit, I was ROFL when I read that.  Sometimes you come up with a doozie.

     

     

     


    Oh, man. I am exhausted................I'd rather be arguing with you again! LMFAO.....

     

     
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    1. UMMMM, Maybe not be armed while "watching" so stuff like this doesn't happen?

    UMMMM, maybe NO because he had a legal right to carry the firearm.

     

    2. Uh, err, yes he did.

    When the police advise you not to get involved, you listen to the police.  He continued to follow AND got out of the car to initiate the confrontation. If he had stayed in his car, this doesn't happen.

    The phone jockey had no authority to tell GZ not to follow him.

     

    Who has even heard of volunteer duty "neighborhood watch" people before anyway?

    Most normal people. That leaves you out dumbkoff. You never heard of the Guardian Angels? They're only in 144 cities word wide. Do you live under a rock Einstein?

     

    Don't normal people just go about their lives and if they see something suspicious, call the police? 

    Not in high crime ghettos where the cops don't respond to anything they don't have to. There they form watches so the crooks know somebody is keeping an eye on them because the cops don't even want to go in there.

    My god is Florida just a goofy state. A bunch of riff raff from the Midwest and Northeast mixed in with some local hayseeds.

    More brilliance from the dumbkoff. My brother and sister live in FLA and could buy and sell you 10x over.

     

    Terrible combo.

    Not as terrible as your combo of being a liar and an idiot.

     

    Blown elections, blown court cases, etc. Just embarrassing at this point.

    Sorry your boy didn't get in after 4 vote counts dumbkoff. (not really) LMAO@U



     
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    1. UMMMM, Maybe not be armed while "watching" so stuff like this doesn't happen?

    UMMMM, maybe NO because he had a legal right to carry the firearm.

     

    2. Uh, err, yes he did.

    When the police advise you not to get involved, you listen to the police.  He continued to follow AND got out of the car to initiate the confrontation. If he had stayed in his car, this doesn't happen.

    The phone jockey had no authority to tell GZ not to follow him.

     

    Who has even heard of volunteer duty "neighborhood watch" people before anyway?

    Most normal people. That leaves you out dumbkoff. You never heard of the Guardian Angels? They're only in 144 cities word wide. Do you live under a rock Einstein?

     

    Don't normal people just go about their lives and if they see something suspicious, call the police? 

    Not in high crime ghettos where the cops don't respond to anything they don't have to. There they form watches so the crooks know somebody is keeping an eye on them because the cops don't even want to go in there.

    My god is Florida just a goofy state. A bunch of riff raff from the Midwest and Northeast mixed in with some local hayseeds.

    More brilliance from the dumbkoff. My brother and sister live in FLA and could buy and sell you 10x over.

     

    Terrible combo.

    Not as terrible as your combo of being a liar and an idiot.

     

    Blown elections, blown court cases, etc. Just embarrassing at this point.

    Sorry your boy didn't get in after 4 vote counts dumbkoff. (not really) LMAO@U




    OK Russ, I 100% agree with EVERYTHING BABE just said here. Do I get some kind of Babe alignment membership card now, or just ridicule by you. Dude, I am only agreeing with Babe on this topic because he is correct. THE JURY, THEIR RULING, and the LAW HAS ALREADY SAID SO!

     
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    I must admit, I was ROFL when I read that.  Sometimes you come up with a doozie.

     

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    wondering what on god's green earth a toadwart tool is doing stalking him

     

     



    I must admit, I was ROFL when I read that.  Sometimes you come up with a doozie.

     

     

     


    Oh, man. I am exhausted................I'd rather be arguing with you again! LMFAO.....

     




    Hahahahaha!!  And it's never ending with him.  BTW, no, please, let's not do that again!

     

     
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    1. UMMMM, Maybe not be armed while "watching" so stuff like this doesn't happen?

    2. Uh, err, yes he did.

    When the police advise you not to get involved, you listen to the police.  He continued to follow AND got out of the car to initiate the confrontation. If he had stayed in his car, this doesn't happen.

    Who has even heard of volunteer duty "neighborhood watch" people before anyway? Don't normal people just go about their lives and if they see something suspicious, call the police? 

    My god is Florida just a goofy state. A bunch of riff raff from the Midwest and Northeast mixed in with some local hayseeds.

    Terrible combo.

    Blown elections, blown court cases, etc. Just embarrassing at this point.




    I wish I had that link to the website.  You would have learned a lot.

     
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    I must admit, I was ROFL when I read that.  Sometimes you come up with a doozie.

     

     

     


    Oh, man. I am exhausted................I'd rather be arguing with you again! LMFAO.....

     

     




     

    Hahahahaha!!  And it's never ending with him.  BTW, no, please, let's not do that again!

     

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    I must admit, I was ROFL when I read that.  Sometimes you come up with a doozie.

     

     

     

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    Don't give him too much credit. He had probably recently walked by a mirror. I'm sure that inspired him.

     

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    Hahahaha, probably so.

     

    It is a very interesting topic and debate for sure.  I agree with most of what you and Rally are saying and I think the verdict was correct.  But I have a few friends that have the same arguments Rusty has presented here, so I am enjoying following along on this one.

    I certainly don't like all the race and political interference that has gone on in this case and I am glad that did not sway the jury into making a wrong decision based on facts presented in the court room.

     

     
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    Many of the arguments I see here, depicting Zimmerman as the aggressor, are presented right out of the press and the prosecution.  A lot of ignorance of other facts which support Zimmerman did nothing but observe and follow with Martin initiating a physical altercation.

    I wonder how folks would react if they saw a picture of the 17 year old Martin versus the cherubic 12-13 year old?  Hmmmmmmm....  Lots of stuff about Martin was kept quiet.

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    I must admit, I was ROFL when I read that.  Sometimes you come up with a doozie.

     

     

     

     

     

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    Don't give him too much credit. He had probably recently walked by a mirror. I'm sure that inspired him.

     

     

     

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    Hahahaha, probably so.

     

     

    It is a very interesting topic and debate for sure.  I agree with most of what you and Rally are saying and I think the verdict was correct.  But I have a few friends that have the same arguments Rusty has presented here, so I am enjoying following along on this one.

    I certainly don't like all the race and political interference that has gone on in this case and I am glad that did not sway the jury into making a wrong decision based on facts presented in the court room.

     

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    It wasn't even supposed to make it to court. It became about race thanks the Al and Jesse. The State knew from the jump there was no case. THEY NEVER EVEN TRIED TO EXPLAIN WHAT REALLY HAPPENED, only the defense did. Your friends, as well as most of us, probably question "WAS IT THE RIGHT THING FOR GZ TO DO?" I say absolutely not if GZ knew he was going to have to shoot somebody. BUT, what any of us think doesn't mean crap. GZ NEVER BROKE THE LAW AND WAS TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING. Tragic result for both parties. Stupid decisions by both.

     
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    It wasn't even supposed to make it to court. It became about race thanks the Al and Jesse. The State knew from the jump there was no case. THEY NEVER EVEN TRIED TO EXPLAIN WHAT REALLY HAPPENED, only the defense did. Your friends, as well as most of us, probably question "WAS IT THE RIGHT THING FOR GZ TO DO?" I say absolutely not if GZ knew he was going to have to shoot somebody. BUT, what any of us think doesn't mean crap. GZ NEVER BROKE THE LAW AND WAS TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING. Tragic result for both parties. Stupid decisions by both.

     



    I agree with this 100%

     

     
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     I didnt follow the trail at all,so all I know is what is said on here.IMO even if GZ got out and asked what he was doing thats not ilegal, I know of people doing this all the time if they see a suspious person ,or just watch them .The real question I got even if GZ got out of the car and approached Martin ,What was Martin hiding to lash out like that?When mot people would have jut said going home or leave me alone something like that.

     
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    RallyC...  you hit the nail on the head.  GZ believed that acting in his role as a "neighborhood watch" person in keeping tabs on a suspicious individual he was doing the right thing.  Imagine the uproar if GZ saw Martin, did nothing and Martin did do something in the neighborhood Zimmerman could have prevented? Damned if you do and damned if you don't!

    AGCSBill, just a fan havin' fun!!

     
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    1. UMMMM, Maybe not be armed while "watching" so stuff like this doesn't happen?

    2. Uh, err, yes he did.

    When the police advise you not to get involved, you listen to the police.  He continued to follow AND got out of the car to initiate the confrontation. If he had stayed in his car, this doesn't happen.

    Who has even heard of volunteer duty "neighborhood watch" people before anyway? Don't normal people just go about their lives and if they see something suspicious, call the police? 

    My god is Florida just a goofy state. A bunch of riff raff from the Midwest and Northeast mixed in with some local hayseeds.

    Terrible combo.

    Blown elections, blown court cases, etc. Just embarrassing at this point.

     




     

    I wish I had that link to the website.  You would have learned a lot.

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    That was good info on the details bill. Thanks for sharing it.

     

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