Glad Welker, Talib, and Spikes Are Gone

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    In response to BostonTrollSpanker's comment:

    Too bad they can't all be well behaved like Tavon Wilson....



    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOL !

     
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    Yeah, who needs those trouble makers.

    Patriots to meet with Kenny Britt Posted by Mike Wilkening on March 15, 2014, 8:29 PM EDT

    Kenny Britt AP

    Kenny Britt’s second free agent trip will be to a team fond of Rutgers products.

    According to Ian Rapoport of NFL Media, the Patriots will host Britt, the Titans’ unrestricted free agent wideout, on Sunday.

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    Personal life

    On April 12, 2011 Britt was arrested in New Jersey on three counts (including a felony) following an alleged car chase with police. The charges were later reduced.[8] On June 7, Britt pled guilty to careless driving and was fined.[9] On June 8, 2012, Britt was arrested in Hoboken, NJ, charged with resisting arrest.[10] On January 13, 2013, Britt's close personal friend was involved in a stabbing and Britt reportedly drove him to the Jersey City Medical Center. When police attempted to ask Britt about the incident, he was allegedly not willing to cooperate. The incident marks the ninth time Britt was involved with police since he joined the NFL.[11]

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    Get rid of those big mouths.  Bring in a guy currently suspended and then interview a career criminal.

     

     

     
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    Sounds like Irsay should be interviewing for pats ownership.  He's exactly the kind of guy belichick covets.

     
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    In response to joepatsfan111111's comment:

    I think you're kinda taking this the wrong way. Maybe not WW's case but Spikes/Talib may just be upset because BB wouldnt match Denver's offer and not even talk to SPikes.

    They are treating it like a bad breakup is all. They say things they probably dont mean.

    I'm really only defending Talib. Even though he screwed us twice, he did love playing for BB and the Pats and it changed him and made him elite. `

    Spikes just isnt a Patriot. Plain and simple. He likes to be himself and act stupid and immature and he's not good enough to do that. only gronk is. Spikes is jsut sour.

    Welker and BB hate each other. no doubt. BB screwed WW on the offer and WW scrwed the team acting like a bi*ch over a small amount.

     

    Don't have sour grapes like these three. Be glad for what they brought to the team and be glad that 2/3 have been replaced by better players (Revis and Collins/Hightower) and the other 2 younger options (JE & DA)

    Let them be the one's who say the things they dont mean. not us.

    Good career in NE to all three. good luck moving forward



    hell of a noble post joe!!!!!!!!!

     
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    In response to mthurl's comment:

    I do agree on Spikes and Talib, but not on Welker. Spikes clearly is a punk...let's see...he's got his own porn video that he stars in, he's been suspended in college for...what was it? Spitting? I can't remember. He is famous for his inappropriate tweets. He doesn't work out here in the off season and came into this season out of shape - too me he never really took that next step and improved much from the guy who walked through those doors as a rookie. He is the same guy - good instinct and a physical thumper - he never improved in pass coverage, he never took training seriously and he never became a leader on that defense.

    Talib is a known thug, who I think the Patriots were wise not to resign. This guy had problems in college, problems in Tampa and probably will have problems in Denver sooner or later. This is a guy who shot at someone - I know he was going after his sister's boyfriend, but he shot at the guy! He punches his team mates in the face. Anyone ever see him do an interview? Believe me the Patriots didn't want anyone to see any of those...wow! The Sports hub jokingly plays some clips of them now that he is gone because they can, the patriots don't mind anymore now that he is Denver's problem. This guy will get hurt, that is a virtual guarantee.

    As for Welker, I have no beef with him. The guy was great for us; he played hard, he played hurt, he played tough, he stayed on the field, you didn't hear anything about him, he produced, he was under paid at times, and he came back from a devastating injury without missing a beat. He also most likely played with multiple concussions that he never complained about. He said a few things after he left, but it wasn't too bad. I'll always appreciate this guy as a player.



    +1 and a couple of words of truth (about bb) that dont have any evil in them. so what. i truly belive his agent flubbed the deal and he would have wanted to have the patriots last offer. he apeared shocked, dismayed and saddened when denver got him.

     
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    I do agree on Spikes and Talib, but not on Welker. Spikes clearly is a punk...let's see...he's got his own porn video that he stares in, he's been suspended in college for...what was it? Spitting? I can't remember. He is famous for his inappropriate tweets. He doesn't work out here in the off season and came into this season out of shape - too me he never really took that next step and improved much from the guy who walked through those doors as a rookie. He is the same guy - good instinct and a physical thumper - he never improved in pass coverage, he never took training seriously and he never became a leader on that defense.

    Talib is a known thug, who I think the Patriots were wise not to resign. This guy had problems in college, problems in Tampa and probably will have problems in Denver sooner or later. This is a guy who shot at someone - I know he was going after his sister's boyfriend, but he shot at the guy! He punches his team mates in the face. Anyone ever see him do an interview? Believe me the Patriots didn't want anyone to see any of those...wow! The Sports hub jokingly plays some clips of them now that he is gone because they can, the patriots don't mind anymore now that he is Denver's problem. This guy will get hurt, that is a virtual guarantee.

    As for Welker, I have no beef with him. The guy was great for us; he played hard, he played hurt, he played tough, he stayed on the field, you didn't hear anything about him, he produced, he was under paid at times, and he came back from a devastating injury without missing a beat. He also most likely played with multiple concussions that he never complained about. He said a few things after he left, but it wasn't too bad. I'll always appreciate this guy as a player.



    C'mon, Talib said he only pistol whipped the guy... his mom fired the shots...  LOL



    you know, a righteous man wouldve done the same thing threatening bodily harm to someone who did or threatened to do serious harm to a loved one (and liekly get away with it). better he acted then waited for her to be seriously harmed or killed. it was a threat. and it seems it may have done the job.

     
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    No biggie.  BB, by hiring Revis, has shown he can get over these types of things.  Hopefully Welker will be back next year!  Laughing



    Dont want him...one hit away from being head case




    you mena one hit away from having concussion syndrome.

     
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    Ignoring the extraneous irrelevant nonsense that always seems to show up on thought provoking threads, TP I do understand your point.  All 3 did contribute, often significantly, to the Pats while here it really does reek of sour grapes from people who really were rather obscure before BB moved to bring them here. 

    Time to move on.  I'm certain BB has.

     
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    In response to trouts' comment:

    Wilfork and Amendola for Jackson would make my day. Wilfork appears to be disgruntled and if we unload both we get out of all cap issues.



    trading Vince and DA for Jackson results in a savings this year of approx $3M, next year it is a cap hit of $7M and the year after a cap hit of $5M

    Jackson, under his current contract has little value. if he is willing to extend, his value would increase tremendously. but if he is willing to extend, why not in Philly?

     
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    Come on TP, seriously?  It's not like they didn't help the team win games and in a couple instances get to a Super Bowl or two.  Just imagine what the D would have looked like the past 2 years with out Talib and Spikes, and the offense without Welker.  There is a trade off here.  Maybe they have some legit issues they felt were unfair.  Could that be too hard to imagine?  Maybe for Welker you should have added in how he way outplayed his initial contract.  You know, some teams reward guys like that and redo contracts when it is obvious that a player is out performing his contract.



         No doubt.

         But...that's not the point. The point is that, immediately after leaving the team, that they chose to trash BB.

         Sorry...but BB deserves better from them. What they done was classless. BB did much to ad these three in their respective careers. 




    The Talib situation is interesting and I hope more info comes out on this.  Will wait to see if there is more to it.  If not, then yeah, I agree with you.

    The Spikes situation is one that has been disputed by Spikes agent from the very begining, when Spikes was first placed on IR.  Spikes felt he could continue to play, he had been playing up until that point.  It very well could have been a punishment to him for being late.

    The Welker situation just baffles me why you would even include him in this.  The whole deal was messed up, it was to the point that it probably was best to go separate ways at that point.    Funny thing is they did the same to Edelman, didn't make an offer until the morning FA opened, and it was a take it or leave it offer.  The only difference is the Pats couldn't sign anyone immediately like they did Amedola and nobody apparently offered Edelman anything worth taking.



    Talibs agent is the one who figured it out. Every team he talked to discussed an offer around the hip injury. But Talib never had a hip injury while in NE. His agent figured out if the Pats reported a hip injury and kept his value lowered, the Pats had a better chance to sign him for better value

     
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    Talibs agent is the one who figured it out. Every team he talked to discussed an offer around the hip injury. But Talib never had a hip injury while in NE. His agent figured out if the Pats reported a hip injury and kept his value lowered, the Pats had a better chance to sign him for better value



    So are you saying that Talib was faking it when he hobbled to the sideline grabbing his hip last year?

     
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    Talibs agent is the one who figured it out. Every team he talked to discussed an offer around the hip injury. But Talib never had a hip injury while in NE. His agent figured out if the Pats reported a hip injury and kept his value lowered, the Pats had a better chance to sign him for better value

     



    So are you saying that Talib was faking it when he hobbled to the sideline grabbing his hip last year?

     




    Or Spikes was faking it in his last game in a Pats uniform where  he had to be helped off the field by 2 trainers because he was faking his knee injury?

     
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    Got no beef with Welker.  BB apparently has more vitriol for Welker than vice versa.  As for Talib and Spikes, they're comments about the injury reporting were stupid and misinformed.  I doubt Talib was trying to trash the Patriots.  He's just not a bright guy and doesn't think before he speaks.  Spikes, on the other hand, is a turdburglar.

     
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    I'm not glad they are gone, but can understand why they are.

    Welker overestimated both his market value and the extent to which the Pats would go to retain him.  The Pats moved on to plan B, Amendola, for better or worse.  Losing Wes hurt them in the short term, but no one is indispensable in Foxboro.   

    Talib?  Well, it's not really his fault that he took a questionable hit in a big game.  I have no doubt he would've played if he could have.  Re: his comments about injury reports, I took those to be more about him saying "hey, I'm healthy and I deserve to be paid" than a direct shot at the Pats.  He played well when he was here, and if BB didn't sign Revis I think the tone around here would've changed as people started to realise that his contract with Denver is essentially a 3 year deal.  Not glad he's gone, still wondering if Revis is anything but a rental, but at least BB had a plan B that could actually work out better for the team. 

    Spikes?  I think it's obvious that his act has grown old, and that he is a limited player.  He brings an element of fear to the defense no doubt, but he is hardly irreplaceable.  He's that guy who people see make a big hit and then overrate his abilities.  I'll miss seeing him on the field delivering those jarring blows, but there are enough red flags (internet activities, random tweets, missed practices, injuries, his own off season program) to make me think that he is a guy who chooses to march to the beat of his own drummer -- which isn't what BB likes in a player. 

    I'm not glad they're gone, but for all three I am not at all surprised.  I WILL be surprised if VW is not here -- which is to be seen. 

     
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    Talibs agent is the one who figured it out. Every team he talked to discussed an offer around the hip injury. But Talib never had a hip injury while in NE. His agent figured out if the Pats reported a hip injury and kept his value lowered, the Pats had a better chance to sign him for better value

     



    So are you saying that Talib was faking it when he hobbled to the sideline grabbing his hip last year?

     



    first off, I am not saying anything

    Talib is saying that his injury was to his quad, not his hip. never was his hip

    His agent is saying every negotiation he had the last couple of weeks centered around the hip, and he maintained the hip was never an issue. He speculated the Pats put out that info to lower Talibs value once free agency started

    Talib is not the first or only player that has past Pats roots to indicate the Pats took every angle for an advantage. To those who say wouldnt BB have better things to do than mislead regarding an injury and negotiations down the road...there is only one reply....Ernie Adams

     
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    Too bad they can't all be well behaved like Tavon Wilson....




    So you want to sign/draft players based upon some sort of goody two shoes rating?

     
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         Perhaps I'm a bit over-sensitive to comments about the Patriots "cheating", after the BS of spygate. But I'm sick and tired of hearing the media, fans, and players whine about BB...stemming from hatred or envy due to the success the Pats have had over the past decade. Success and greatness should be celebrated, not torn down by lies, and/or excuse makers.  

         When it comes to these three players...sorry...they lack class. None of the three would be as successful as they are today, were it not for BB. Yet, rather than acknowledging this, they have chosen to mock him, disrespect him, and/or whine.

         Good riddance! 

     
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         Perhaps I'm a bit over-sensitive to comments about the Patriots "cheating", after the BS of spygate. But I'm sick and tired of hearing the media, fans, and players whine about BB...stemming from hatred or envy due to the success the Pats have had over the past decade. Success and greatness should be celebrated, not torn down by lies, and/or excuse makers.  

         When it comes to these three players...sorry...they lack class. None of the three would be as successful as they are today, were it not for BB. Yet, rather than acknowledging this, they have chosen to mock him, disrespect him, and/or whine.

         Good riddance! 



    What a crock.  Belichick creates his own problems.  He has a demonstrated history of engaging in shenanigans on and off of the football field.  He's shown himself to obstinate, demonstrates disrespect toward the media in general, gave the middle finger to the Jets in a less than savory manner, etc. etc. etc. 

    He's a great coach and that is what gets him the pass for all of these things.  No different than how Knight was treated while at IU. 

    Stop whining - you sound like the old guard Hoosier fans. 

     

     
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         Perhaps I'm a bit over-sensitive to comments about the Patriots "cheating", after the BS of spygate. But I'm sick and tired of hearing the media, fans, and players whine about BB...stemming from hatred or envy due to the success the Pats have had over the past decade. Success and greatness should be celebrated, not torn down by lies, and/or excuse makers.  

         When it comes to these three players...sorry...they lack class. None of the three would be as successful as they are today, were it not for BB. Yet, rather than acknowledging this, they have chosen to mock him, disrespect him, and/or whine.

         Good riddance! 



    Very good post.

    As far as Talib is concerned, it did seem like a quad injury when he got taken out by WW in the AFCCG but before that when he went out in the regular season it seemed more like his hip.

    So, it's no secret to anyone that he has a history of hip problems.  That was the one concern of almost everyone on this forum about resigning Talib and obviously to the Pats.

    Ofcourse the Pats made an issue of it during the negotiations because it was a ligit concern.

     
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    hell of a noble post joe!!!!!!!!!



    thank you sir!

     
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    Belichick creates his own problems.  He has a demonstrated history of engaging in shenanigans on and off of the football field.  



    Yeah, he's really out of control.......perhaps he needs a role model owner like the Colts have.....oh wait....

     
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    PETER KING: So, you go from Tom Brady’s team to Peyton Manning’s team. Did you have an offer from New England that tempted you to stay?

    AQIB TALIB: I definitely had an offer from the Patriots. But there was language in there that definitely was a little shaky compared to Denver’s offer. The Patriots are a great organization. I loved my time there. I loved playing for Bill. He’s a great leader. I’ll be able to tell my kids I played for Bill Belichick someday and I was Tom Brady’s teammate. Really, it’s just a dream I’m experiencing, when two great organizations want you like this.

     
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    Belichick creates his own problems.  He has a demonstrated history of engaging in shenanigans on and off of the football field.  



    Yeah, he's really out of control.......perhaps he needs a role model owner like the Colts have.....oh wait....




    As I noted earlier in a "tongue in cheek" manner - Irsay is exactly the type of person Belichick would recruit for his owner - but lets not get off subject.  People need to stop whining about former players giving Belichick isht.  It goes with the territory. 

     
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    PETER KING: So, you go from Tom Brady’s team to Peyton Manning’s team. Did you have an offer from New England that tempted you to stay?

    AQIB TALIB: I definitely had an offer from the Patriots. But there was language in there that definitely was a little shaky compared to Denver’s offer. The Patriots are a great organization. I loved my time there. I loved playing for Bill. He’s a great leader. I’ll be able to tell my kids I played for Bill Belichick someday and I was Tom Brady’s teammate. Really, it’s just a dream I’m experiencing, when two great organizations want you like this.




    Pretty negative stuff said there.  Whew.  them's fightin words.  jeez. 

    If you were Talib and didn't have a hip injury and Belichick was deliberately stating such a falsehood in order to keep teams from being attracted to you, would that bother you? 

    If you were Spikes and the team isn't showing interest and they put you on IR when you don't have a season ending injury and that potentially hurts your future value, would that bother you?

    If you are Welker and you have so completely outplayed your contract and you perceive the team's contractual reaction to that effort as a slight, would that bother you? 

    Homerism is one thing, blind allegience is scary. 

     
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    In response to 49Patriots's comment:

    We have the best LB corps in the NFL now, Spikes can suck a pickle. If only we had Woodward to make the for an awesome 5 man rotation between Mayo, Hightower, Collins and Beau!

    Talib gets no love for me, never healthy when we need him. Glad he's gone too. Not to mention, Josh Gordon made him look a fool, I would hate to see how Calvin Johnson makes him look. Revis > All CBs.

    Welker, I don't like the guy, but if Brady comes out all mopey to start the season like last season, the. I'll say letting him go was a mistake. But if all these WRs get in sync, without Welker here for Tom to play favorites with, this could make for a great WR corps.

    Time to draft two OL in the draft!




    Are you serious Dude?  This is why I call you a homer sometimes. Do you watch ANY football outside of N.E.?  Seattle who isnt even known for their backers had a better corp last year(wagner, Wright, Smith) They have linebackers who do it all. Need I remind you that outside of Mayo, noone is even proven, let alone being the best. Collins showed flashes and looked like the best player on OUR D vs Manning but that aint saying much. Hightower ,the other guy is a 2nd year player who looked ok at times but struggled a lot until he started to string together some nice games in the last month of the season and you want to proclaim them to be the best  NOW? maybe in the future but what do you have to warrant that statement? a Tall glass of Kool Aid?? 

    You even included Beauharnis, some Rutgers guy picked late that never saw the field...LMAO at you!

    There are ATLEAST 5 other teams with a better corps of proven linebackers. You are making a statement of "now", you should have used "Can Be"

    smh

     
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