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    Fine Tcal I am also glad to see the establishment overthrown.  I just wish it would happen here.
     
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    In Response to Re: Go Rebels!! : Actually, over there, "religion (islam)" and "politics" are one-and-the-same. There is NO separating one from the other. They live their lives under their religion. There is NO room for religious tolerence. The Jews have a relatively secular state, but don't invite one to an Arab home for dinner.   IED's: political or religion? Having your kid march off to blow himself and other innocents up: political or religion? Killing and maiming soldiers of the ONLY country in teh world stepping up to give them their freedon: political or religion? The line is sooo blured that there is no line. 
    Posted by AZPAT


    Ooohhh those bad people over there ... those Muslims/Commies/Nazis/Japs/Germans/Spanish/Northerners/Southerners / Mexicans/Indians/British/French ... thank goodness we have someone to hate so a bunch of poor Americans can die for the rich military-industrialists
     
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    In Response to Re: Go Rebels!! : Actually, over there, "religion (islam)" and "politics" are one-and-the-same. There is NO separating one from the other. They live their lives under their religion. There is NO room for religious tolerence. The Jews have a relatively secular state, but don't invite one to an Arab home for dinner.   IED's: political or religion? Having your kid march off to blow himself and other innocents up: political or religion? Killing and maiming soldiers of the ONLY country in teh world stepping up to give them their freedon: political or religion? The line is sooo blured that there is no line. 
    Posted by AZPAT

    No doubt that is true.  But I mean the "Freedom fighters" funded by the US to fight the Soviets in a struggle that was really political were not motivated by politics to join Al Qaida.  Al Qaida is a brand of Islamic idealists and they are fighting for Islam.  I don't believe they have any interest in forwarding any political interest that does not in itself help Islam, unlike the Mujahadeen, whose relationship with the US would lead us to believe they were more interested in gaining power for themselves than furthering a religious ideology.
     
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    al queda was a term cooked up in some backroom of the pentagon. 9/11 was an israeli mossad job with the full participation of of the ghwbush cia upper levels. it goes back to the creation of the jonathan institute by netanyahu in 78. ghwbush was a founding member, at the same time he was running the cia and woeking closely with the bin ladens, including osama, cia codename tim osman. jonathan institute created the term international terrorism, to paint palestinian resistance in marketing terms that would make the rest of the world hate muslims in general. the 9/11 highjackers were not really islamists, which explains why many of them were trained on u.s. military bases and went to strip clubs, casinos, and bars just before 9/11. operation mockingbird is a cia program that has been operational since '51, and helped lie to us about countless issues and events ever since. critical thinking has been completely de-emphasized in our educational system and corporate/cia scripted mass culture. dont be a moronn on your way to the police state. ask more questions in general, and do a dictionary search on the word jingoism. its a natural but destructive, and ultimately self-destructive human impulse. DID YOU KNOW THAT THE REBELS IN CHARGE IN LIBYA ARE AN OFFSHOOT OF AL FREEAKIN QUEDA? THEY ARE BEING LED BY CIA OPERATIVES. IT IS NOT A NEW RELATIONSHIP. Our most powerful international puppetmasters are not patriots to any country. they will leave the world stripped and enslaved, while profiting from sky high defense budgets as they play countries against each other. think twice before you cheer for al queda in libya and iran. dont be a useful iddiot because its less depressing than facing reality.
     
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    . Our most powerful international puppetmasters are not patriots to any country. they will leave the world stripped and enslaved, while profiting from sky high defense budgets as they play countries against each other.


    This is exactly what's going on.  Remember what happened after the last Great Depression?  A world war.  They're cooking up another world war and will laugh at all the innocent people around the world they kill while they rake in the dough.  We can either die exposing them or die serving them.
     
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    Iran and North Korea are EXTREMELY unlikely

    I'll hope for Syria next.  Once Libya is stabilized and the Western oil conglomerates get their contracts with the new government, NATO will turn its attention to ousting Al-Bashir Assad.

    And while I don't like how the Tea Party is a bunch of raging hypocrites who refuse to cut anything other than Medicare and Social Security (when polled about WHAT to cut, they said no defense cuts, no education cuts, no regulatory cuts, etc etc. ), I do like that they've brought attention to the government's irresponsible spending.
    http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2011/04/70-tea-partiers-dont-want-cut-medicare-either/36820/
    http://reason.com/archives/2010/11/01/entitlement-reform-not-their-c
    ("polls by the New York Times and Bloomberg have found that although a vast majority of Tea Party supporters favor smaller government, they don’t want cuts in their Medicare or Social Security")

    If there's one unrealistic country that I want to see get annihilated, it's Pakistan.  We should build an estate for their worst enemy one mile from West Point and let that person hide out there for the next 8 years, then if they try to attack, we should sell their military technology to India
     
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    In Response to Re: Go Rebels!! : Its just to bad the average person just doesnt get it.Even back to the civil war same crap.Never ever fight for your country unless your being invaded,even then maybe,maybe not. Posted by Mybologna
    A little histoty lesson here for you, free of charge. Ever hear of what happened on 12/7/1941? Do recall the events of that day? I seem to recall something bad happening at Pearl Harbor, and the Phillipines. Now, in today's libbie induced revisionist histopry, I know that the ONLY thing that really matters about any of the events that happened AFTER 12/7/41 was how the USA wontonly and with total disregard of humanity, fused places named Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which effectively ended all war hostilities (that means "The Japs surrendered"). But, that's another topic for another day.  Seems to me that a sneak attack on a Sunday morning (just happens to be a Christian day set aside for prayer and reflection, when folks go to places called "churches" to "pray") would incite the American people just a bit. japan quickly found itself between teh US crosshairs, deservedly so. Now, let's talk about Germany and teh paper hanging psycho named Adolf. Again, history tells us that HE declared war on teh USA, NOT the other way around.  While you're spouting sketchy historic information at best, why not tell teh whole story? When did the US start the military build up? The afternoon of 12/7/41? Was it 12/8?  Did they wait until after the holidays to put the first rivet in the first tank?  The build up started in late 1939, and kicked into overdrive after 12/7. Before it started in 1939, the US military on a whole was the 15th rated in the world. Not a good thing. ever study WWII? Before Germany declare war on teh USA, Adolf, that party loving worl traveler sort of conquered Europe and suddenly attacked Russia (now, where have we heard about a country doing that before? Hmmm....). His military had beat every army it faced,a nd bravely killed millions of innocent civilians. Now, with the USA in teh war, it didn't cause Adolf to modify his behavior any. But, we ultimately made it end. Same for Japan. They, too, bit off more than they could possibly chew, AND they knew the ramifications if they attacked us. It was only a matter of time. Bottom line is this: The USA is the ONLY country in the world strong enough to beat two strong enemies on two major fronts. So, if you can speak English today, go out and thank a WWII vet. Sit down with one. Have a good conversation with him about his experiences. Those vets are dying off at a big rate. That whole generation is owed so much, neither we, or the world, can EVER repay them. Go tell a vet or any war the USA was involved in that we really don't have to fight for the country if we ever got invaded. But, be prepared to get an earfull and a half. Bottom line is this: when teh worl had an opportunity to do something to stop misunderstood Adolf or a whole race of Japanese (read up on Nanking too), they didn't. They feared another WWI experience. Guess what? By doing nothing, they got a WORSE perdicament. There are lessons to be learned for doing nothing.  Stay out of the sun and know a little something about what REALLY happens when you bend over and grab your ankles while the world is going to he ll. (Ever hear of Neville Chamberlain? Go check him out.) Glad you feel you can have a group hug and a Kumbuya Moment if your hometown is invaded. Don't forget to break out those big bright flowrs and loud beads. Ask Mommie how to make a peace sign with your fingers. That'll add a nice touch.  A little ignorance goes a long way, kid. 
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    Alright, but YOU need to get your facts straight - RUSSIA made World War II end.  They inflicted more German casualties and took more losses than every other country combined.

    We should serve our country, but our country should also serve us.

    Right now, we have The Party of Irresponsible Spending fighting childishly with The Party of Tax Loopholes and we all lose because of it.

    If we're going to war in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Pakistan, Syria, Iran, then don't b***sh*t us with lines about Patriotism and "radical Islam"

    3,000 people died on September 11th, 2001

    15,000+ Americans will die from MURDER this year, as they have every year since the turn of the millienium

    Don't be a soldier-worshipper who eats everything politicians feed you.  Defense spending is out of control - of 63 smart bomb attacks in the Iraq War, NOT ONE OF THEM HIT THEIR TARGET.  I think 25,000 ICBMs and 12 aircraft carriers is enough to deter every country not named China (and still China because they're still building their first aircraft carrier so they can intimidate Vietnam into friendlier trade terms) from messing with us.

    Our politicians SHOULD serve us.  Special interests and apathetic/ignorant citizens have resulted in policy that has mostly benefitted the extremely wealthy recently (the bank bailouts that still resulted in a credit squeeze and a recession, the Fed literally handing money to the rich and corporations who aren't spending it).

    Don't get caught up in the flag-waving to the point you forget what you're fighting for.
 
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    [/QUOTE] Alright, but YOU need to get your facts straight - RUSSIA made World War II end.  They inflicted more German casualties and took more losses than every other country combined. Posted by Artist-Frmrly-Knwn-As-NickC1188[/QUOTE]

    What? No those things called nuclear bombs enede WWII. Remember we were fighting the Japanese too in the Pacific.

    Didn't here about any Russians landing at Normandy and driving the Nazi's all the way back to Berlin. Go read history.

    You must be a commie.
     
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     As long as the new governments don't plot to kill Americans, it's OK.  Plus I'm going to be positive and be happy for them.  I'm not going to buy into what the fear mongers at Fox NEWS always try selling.




    Horray for the Muslim Brotherhood!  Fine group of friends they will be!
     
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     As long as the new governments don't plot to kill Americans, it's OK.  Plus I'm going to be positive and be happy for them.  I'm not going to buy into what the fear mongers at Fox NEWS always try selling. Horray for the Muslim Brotherhood!  Fine group of friends they will be!
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    LOL, yeah right . The Muslim Brotherhood is Al-Quida lite. They'll still blow up and kill infedels(Christians and jews) 
     
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    LOL, yeah right . The Muslim Brotherhood is Al-Quida lite. They'll still blow up and kill infedels(Christians and jews)


    Agree with that. that whole region is going to be a loss. Once Yemen and Somalia decide to pinch off the oil supply the world will be on its ear. Libya is europes problem. Thats where they get a lot of oil from. do you honestly think the French would be involved just to be good guys?
     
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    Alright, but YOU need to get your facts straight - RUSSIA made World War II end.  They inflicted more German casualties and took more losses than every other country combined. Posted by Artist-Frmrly-Knwn-As-NickC1188
    What? No those things called nuclear bombs enede WWII. Remember we were fighting the Japanese too in the Pacific. Didn't here about any Russians landing at Normandy and driving the Nazi's all the way back to Berlin. Go read history. You must be a commie.
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  • No, I'm just smarter than you.  Russia won the war in Europe.

    http://www.eisenhowerinstitute.org/about/living_history/wwii_soviet_experience.dot

    U.S., British, and French casualties inflicted on Germany: 0.8 million out of a small World War army of 1.5 million

    Soviet casualties inflicted on Germany: 2.5 million out of a German force of 5.5 million, or almost four times as big of a German force

    So the Soviets faced a more difficult German fighting force and inflicted three times as many losses

    Watch your head.  I just dropped some knowledge on it
     
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      Russia won the war in Europe.

    http://www.eisenhowerinstitute.org/about/living_history/wwii_soviet_experience.dot
    U.S., British, and French casualties inflicted on Germany: 0.8 million out of a small World War army of 1.5 million Soviet casualties inflicted on Germany: 2.5 million out of a German force of 5.5 million, or almost four times as big of a German force So the Soviets faced a more difficult German fighting force and inflicted three times as many losses Watch your head.  I just dropped some knowledge on it
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    Death is not the measure of who won the war. Everyone knows its was USA that won the war. Who do you think libertaed most of Europe from the Nazi's? Not the Commies, all they did was take over Poland and rolled into East Berlin. They liberated none of Europe.

     
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