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    Solid starters

    1. Brent Grimes, Atlanta Falcons
    2. Sean Smith, Miami Dolphins
    3. Aqib Talib, New England Patriots
    4. Chris Houston, Detroit Lions
    5. Keenan Lewis, Pittsburgh Steelers

    Notes: Let's start with Smith. He's been widely touted as the top corner on the market, but I can't get past his inconsistent play. Smith is big and physical and will draw interest, but whatever team lands him must find a way to pull more steady week-to-week play out of the four-year pro. Grimes was lost to an Achilles' injury in the season opener, but Falcons coach Mike Smith said his recovery has been "outstanding." With Atlanta hoping to re-sign safety William Moore, Grimes might escape on the open market. Possible fit? How about the Patriots. They don't overspend on free agents and Grimes looms as a bargain post-injury. The prospect of grabbing this legitimate starting corner on the cheap makes him my No. 1.

    New England must decide what to do with Talib, who was uneven last season. Pro Football Focus points out Talib allowed a whopping 775 yards on 592 snaps. Still, when he was lost to injury against the Baltimore Ravens in the playoffs, the Patriots suffered. Chris Houston was solid in Detroit last season, allowing just 11.9 yards per catch. He's not a dominant corner, but you know what you're getting game-to-game. Lewis matured last season in Pittsburgh. He led the NFL with 16 passes defended and improved in coverage as the campaign progressed. In this group, only Smith played more snaps (1,068) than Lewis (943).

    Starters with questions

    6. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Philadelphia Eagles
    7. Dunta Robinson, Atlanta Falcons (UPDATE: Robinson has agreed to a three-year deal with the Chiefs)
    8. Bradley Fletcher, St. Louis Rams
    9. Derek Cox, Jacksonville Jaguars
    10. Cary Williams, Baltimore Ravens
    11. Greg Toler, Arizona Cardinals

    Notes: Rodgers-Cromartie might be the most naturally talented of the bunch, but his play was downright baffling at times in 2012. His physical gifts are abundant, but Rodgers-Cromartie struggled against the run in Philly's confused secondary. He'll find work, but at 26, DRC's already been dumped by two teams. Fletcher is a potential bargain for the right team, but a handful of strong outings were diminished by a devastating penalties and durability issues in 2012.

     

    The Jaguars reportedly want Derek Cox back next season, but injuries have prevented him from playing a full 16 games since 2009. He's been a reliable corner when healthy. Williams won't re-sign with the Ravens. The Colts make sense as a potential suitor considering Chuck Pagano knows Williams well. He'll likely be overpaid for a corner who was burned too often in Baltimore. Toler is intriguing. He doesn't have many starts, but his aggressive play turned heads. The Cardinals have shown interest in bringing him back.

    Productive in right system

    12. Adam Jones, Cincinnati Bengals
    13. E.J. Biggers, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    14. Antoine Cason, San Diego Chargers
    15. Kyle Arrington, New England Patriots
    16. Mike Jenkins, Dallas Cowboys
    17. Tracy Porter, Denver Broncos

    Notes: Jones pumped out a strong season in Cincinnati. The corner-formerly-known-as-Pacman played in all 16 games for the first time in his career, but I'd be wary of him going elsewhere. Mike Zimmer made the most of him and the Bengals are a candidate to re-sign him. Biggers started 12 games for Tampa. After the Giants dismantled Biggers in Week 2, he ultimately took Talib's place in the lineup and improved down the stretch. The 6-foot-1 Cason is a bigger corner who started 16 games for the Chargers last season and is seen as a potential option for coordinator Todd Bowles in Arizona.

    After an NFL-leading seven picks in 2011, Arrington was a productive slot corner in 2012. He isn't the top priority in New England, but Arrington's agent reportedly talked shop with the Patriots at the combine. Jenkins is an often-baffling performer who lost his starting role in Dallas. The former first-round pick is now just another name destined for dime coverage. Porter was a disappointment in Denver, starting just four games after suffering a seizure in August. Once healthy, he had trouble winning playing time.

    Supporting cast

     

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     18. Jerraud Powers, Indianapolis Colts
    19. Quentin Jammer, San Diego Chargers
    20. Captain Munnerlyn, Carolina Panthers
    21. Tony Carter, Denver Broncos
    22. Leodis McKelvin, Buffalo Bills
    23. Jacob Lacey, Detroit Lions
    24. Stanford Routt, Houston Texans
    25. Chris Owens, Atlanta Falcons
    26. Sheldon Brown, Cleveland Browns
    27. Terence Newman, Cincinnati Bengals
    28. Joselio Hanson, Oakland Raiders

     

    Notes: Powers has underwhelmed as a starter, but might loom as an option for coordinator John Pagano in San Diego, where Jammer -- at 33 -- has played his last game. You'd think the Panthers would like Munnerlyn back, but the cap-strapped franchise might not be able to re-sign him. McKelvin brings value in the return game and Bills general manager Buddy Nix expressed interest last month in re-signing him. McKelvin might bolt because wants to play more defense in 2013. Routt is a former second-round pick who was cut by the Chiefs last season, wound up in Houston and might be running out of chances.

    Sheldon Brown is on the wrong side of 30, but was a mostly reliable presence for Cleveland, but he won't beat out younger, more athletic corners. Tampa might be a fit. Like Adam Jones, Newman put in good work for the Bengals last season, but this aging corner doesn't have much of a market. Hanson is essentially a slot corner.

    The rest of the bunch: William Middleton, Jacksonville Jaguars; Rashean Mathis, Jacksonville Jaguars; Marcus Trufant, Seattle Seahawks; Darius Butler, Indianapolis Colts; Drayton Florence, Detroit Lions; Brice McCain, Houston Texans; Ryan Mouton, Tennessee Titans; Shawntae Spencer, Oakland Raiders; Terrence McGee, Buffalo Bills; Kelvin Hayden, Chicago Bears; Kelvin Hayden, Chicago Bears; Brandon McDonald, Tampa Bay Buccaneers; Chris Carr, San Diego Chargers; Cedric Griffin, Washington Redskins; Alan Ball, Houston Texans; D.J. Moore, Chicago Bears; Will Allen, New England Patriots.

    Position Overview

     

    There's no grand prize here, but that changes if Darrelle Revis is ultimately shopped by the Jets.

    This group is deep. No shutdown corners, but plenty of younger, 20-somethings ready to contribute. Teams should avoid overpaying for the top of the list, where there's not enough to distinguish one player from the next. Someone's going to make Sean Smith rich. Cary Williams, too. But the better value addition might be a younger player like Toler.

    Expect a handful of these guys to test the market before re-signing with their current teams. You can't have enough corners in this league. With three- and four-wideout sets becoming the norm, reserve defensive backs have never been more important.

     

    Teams with a need


    Carolina Panthers: With Chris Gamble and Munnerlyn potentially on the outs, it's time to restock.
    Cincinnati Bengals: Terence Newman and Adam Jones aren't getting any younger -- and they might wind up elsewhere.
    Cleveland Browns: Either through the draft or free agency, another starter must be found across from Joe Haden.
    Denver Broncos: Champ Bailey is aging and while Chris Harris was a nice surprise, a genuine starter is needed.
    Indianapolis Colts: The Colts would like to pair someone across from Vontae Davis.
    Jacksonville Jaguars: Gus Bradley will aim to reshape this defense with big, physical corners.
    Miami Dolphins: After losing Davis and likely Sean Smith, the cupboard is bare.
    Minnesota Vikings: There's a problem with age -- and talent -- at corner.
    New England Patriots: The Ravens made it clear New England still has issues in the secondary.
    New York Giants: Big Blue could use more depth on the backside.
    Oakland Raiders: The Raiders are dying for help.
    Philadelphia Eagles: Chip Kelly's defense is going to look very different this season.
    San Diego Chargers: The Chargers are reshuffling the deck on both sides of the ball.
    San Francisco 49ers: As a few readers pointed out, the 49ers need reliable help at the position.
    Tampa Bay Buccaneers: The league's worst pass defense needs bodies fast.
    Tennessee Titans: No team in the NFL allowed more points than Tennessee last season.
    Washington Redskins: DeAngelo Hall isn't getting any younger and there isn't much behind him.   

     
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    Solid starters

    1. Brent Grimes, Atlanta Falcons
    2. Sean Smith, Miami Dolphins
    3. Aqib Talib, New England Patriots
    4. Chris Houston, Detroit Lions
    5. Keenan Lewis, Pittsburgh Steelers

    Notes: Let's start with Smith. He's been widely touted as the top corner on the market, but I can't get past his inconsistent play. Smith is big and physical and will draw interest, but whatever team lands him must find a way to pull more steady week-to-week play out of the four-year pro. Grimes was lost to an Achilles' injury in the season opener, but Falcons coach Mike Smith said his recovery has been "outstanding." With Atlanta hoping to re-sign safety William Moore, Grimes might escape on the open market. Possible fit? How about the Patriots. They don't overspend on free agents and Grimes looms as a bargain post-injury. The prospect of grabbing this legitimate starting corner on the cheap makes him my No. 1.

    New England must decide what to do with Talib, who was uneven last season. Pro Football Focus points out Talib allowed a whopping 775 yards on 592 snaps. Still, when he was lost to injury against the Baltimore Ravens in the playoffs, the Patriots suffered. Chris Houston was solid in Detroit last season, allowing just 11.9 yards per catch. He's not a dominant corner, but you know what you're getting game-to-game. Lewis matured last season in Pittsburgh. He led the NFL with 16 passes defended and improved in coverage as the campaign progressed. In this group, only Smith played more snaps (1,068) than Lewis (943).

    Starters with questions

    6. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Philadelphia Eagles
    7. Dunta Robinson, Atlanta Falcons (UPDATE: Robinson has agreed to a three-year deal with the Chiefs)
    8. Bradley Fletcher, St. Louis Rams
    9. Derek Cox, Jacksonville Jaguars
    10. Cary Williams, Baltimore Ravens
    11. Greg Toler, Arizona Cardinals

    Notes: Rodgers-Cromartie might be the most naturally talented of the bunch, but his play was downright baffling at times in 2012. His physical gifts are abundant, but Rodgers-Cromartie struggled against the run in Philly's confused secondary. He'll find work, but at 26, DRC's already been dumped by two teams. Fletcher is a potential bargain for the right team, but a handful of strong outings were diminished by a devastating penalties and durability issues in 2012.

     

    The Jaguars reportedly want Derek Cox back next season, but injuries have prevented him from playing a full 16 games since 2009. He's been a reliable corner when healthy. Williams won't re-sign with the Ravens. The Colts make sense as a potential suitor considering Chuck Pagano knows Williams well. He'll likely be overpaid for a corner who was burned too often in Baltimore. Toler is intriguing. He doesn't have many starts, but his aggressive play turned heads. The Cardinals have shown interest in bringing him back.

    Productive in right system

    12. Adam Jones, Cincinnati Bengals
    13. E.J. Biggers, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    14. Antoine Cason, San Diego Chargers
    15. Kyle Arrington, New England Patriots
    16. Mike Jenkins, Dallas Cowboys
    17. Tracy Porter, Denver Broncos

    Notes: Jones pumped out a strong season in Cincinnati. The corner-formerly-known-as-Pacman played in all 16 games for the first time in his career, but I'd be wary of him going elsewhere. Mike Zimmer made the most of him and the Bengals are a candidate to re-sign him. Biggers started 12 games for Tampa. After the Giants dismantled Biggers in Week 2, he ultimately took Talib's place in the lineup and improved down the stretch. The 6-foot-1 Cason is a bigger corner who started 16 games for the Chargers last season and is seen as a potential option for coordinator Todd Bowles in Arizona.

    After an NFL-leading seven picks in 2011, Arrington was a productive slot corner in 2012. He isn't the top priority in New England, but Arrington's agent reportedly talked shop with the Patriots at the combine. Jenkins is an often-baffling performer who lost his starting role in Dallas. The former first-round pick is now just another name destined for dime coverage. Porter was a disappointment in Denver, starting just four games after suffering a seizure in August. Once healthy, he had trouble winning playing time.

    Supporting cast

     

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     18. Jerraud Powers, Indianapolis Colts
    19. Quentin Jammer, San Diego Chargers
    20. Captain Munnerlyn, Carolina Panthers
    21. Tony Carter, Denver Broncos
    22. Leodis McKelvin, Buffalo Bills
    23. Jacob Lacey, Detroit Lions
    24. Stanford Routt, Houston Texans
    25. Chris Owens, Atlanta Falcons
    26. Sheldon Brown, Cleveland Browns
    27. Terence Newman, Cincinnati Bengals
    28. Joselio Hanson, Oakland Raiders

     

    Notes: Powers has underwhelmed as a starter, but might loom as an option for coordinator John Pagano in San Diego, where Jammer -- at 33 -- has played his last game. You'd think the Panthers would like Munnerlyn back, but the cap-strapped franchise might not be able to re-sign him. McKelvin brings value in the return game and Bills general manager Buddy Nix expressed interest last month in re-signing him. McKelvin might bolt because wants to play more defense in 2013. Routt is a former second-round pick who was cut by the Chiefs last season, wound up in Houston and might be running out of chances.

    Sheldon Brown is on the wrong side of 30, but was a mostly reliable presence for Cleveland, but he won't beat out younger, more athletic corners. Tampa might be a fit. Like Adam Jones, Newman put in good work for the Bengals last season, but this aging corner doesn't have much of a market. Hanson is essentially a slot corner.

    The rest of the bunch: William Middleton, Jacksonville Jaguars; Rashean Mathis, Jacksonville Jaguars; Marcus Trufant, Seattle Seahawks; Darius Butler, Indianapolis Colts; Drayton Florence, Detroit Lions; Brice McCain, Houston Texans; Ryan Mouton, Tennessee Titans; Shawntae Spencer, Oakland Raiders; Terrence McGee, Buffalo Bills; Kelvin Hayden, Chicago Bears; Kelvin Hayden, Chicago Bears; Brandon McDonald, Tampa Bay Buccaneers; Chris Carr, San Diego Chargers; Cedric Griffin, Washington Redskins; Alan Ball, Houston Texans; D.J. Moore, Chicago Bears; Will Allen, New England Patriots.

    Position Overview

     

    There's no grand prize here, but that changes if Darrelle Revis is ultimately shopped by the Jets.

    This group is deep. No shutdown corners, but plenty of younger, 20-somethings ready to contribute. Teams should avoid overpaying for the top of the list, where there's not enough to distinguish one player from the next. Someone's going to make Sean Smith rich. Cary Williams, too. But the better value addition might be a younger player like Toler.

    Expect a handful of these guys to test the market before re-signing with their current teams. You can't have enough corners in this league. With three- and four-wideout sets becoming the norm, reserve defensive backs have never been more important.

     

    Teams with a need


    Carolina Panthers: With Chris Gamble and Munnerlyn potentially on the outs, it's time to restock.
    Cincinnati Bengals: Terence Newman and Adam Jones aren't getting any younger -- and they might wind up elsewhere.
    Cleveland Browns: Either through the draft or free agency, another starter must be found across from Joe Haden.
    Denver Broncos: Champ Bailey is aging and while Chris Harris was a nice surprise, a genuine starter is needed.
    Indianapolis Colts: The Colts would like to pair someone across from Vontae Davis.
    Jacksonville Jaguars: Gus Bradley will aim to reshape this defense with big, physical corners.
    Miami Dolphins: After losing Davis and likely Sean Smith, the cupboard is bare.
    Minnesota Vikings: There's a problem with age -- and talent -- at corner.
    New England Patriots: The Ravens made it clear New England still has issues in the secondary.
    New York Giants: Big Blue could use more depth on the backside.
    Oakland Raiders: The Raiders are dying for help.
    Philadelphia Eagles: Chip Kelly's defense is going to look very different this season.
    San Diego Chargers: The Chargers are reshuffling the deck on both sides of the ball.
    San Francisco 49ers: As a few readers pointed out, the 49ers need reliable help at the position.
    Tampa Bay Buccaneers: The league's worst pass defense needs bodies fast.
    Tennessee Titans: No team in the NFL allowed more points than Tennessee last season.
    Washington Redskins: DeAngelo Hall isn't getting any younger and there isn't much behind him.   



    Add DeAngelo Hall to the FA list dude

     
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    I liked Bradley Fletcher early on and he looked the part his rookie year but not sure what he did last year and I would really like D.Cox,. He is a good player down in J-Ville that  not many people know about it and would be our # 1 Cb right away. I like many of the Cbs  but these 2 are intriging because they are young but Cox should get decent money so dont know if he is an option.

    Truthfully in an offseason like this, I would take the quantity. Instead of banking on one guy who could get hurt(and likely would coming here) I would get 3 guys , all mid level that can help but maybe not the stars of free agency. In a deep year like this, there will be a few guys hanging around till draft time that dont get money that will have to settle on lesser contracts. This is where I expect BB to pounce and use his leverage.

     

    I dont like T.Porter(overated). A.Cason has started a while in S.D. and usually plays well but after seeing Gregory, Im not sure he is a fit coming from a system that has always had a good passrush. They come here and S*ck because they have to cover longer than they ever have....   smh. Carey Williams was burnt by B.Lloyd, and attacked by Brady all game...Nuff said!

    Sheldon Brown I liked 2 years ago but is too old now. The rest are guys that looked good rookie year and then fell off. Actually C.Munerlynn who came out with D.Butler and was considered a free agent coming out has had a better career than D.Butler and is a hard working kid I could see coming here because his name is not mentioned much but he has developed into a solid, versatile player. Q.Jammer is too short for my liking but a good player who may still be looking for a payday.  After watching T.Newman last year, I think he is done. I would take a look A McKelvin who is still kind of young and can return kicks as well. I would see if I can convert him into a good player ala Terrence McGee who also turned into a starter after playing a special teams role. He never developed into a real CB but would be good depth for us and maybe BB can coach em' up..

     
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    McKelvin resigned with the Bills for 4/$21

     
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    McKelvin resigned with the Bills for 4/$21




    ok, thanks. That sounds about right. Decent money for a decent player but I dont thnk the Pats would have payed that so good for him!

     
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    Interesting but how is Talib not in the question catagory?

    He was just as inconsistent as DCR and hasn't played a full season ever, just like Cox. He also has more off field issues which could lead to suspensions and a previous failed drug test that the others don't have.

    If anything, he's a bigger question mark then some of the others

     

     
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    I just saw these nuggets on a column by Bedard. Not sure how good his sources is but it seem the pats still have Talib on high priority which may be smokescreen but who knows.. He seems to think they could still be in play for a couple mid level guys even if they do sign talib and thats good news I guess, but I hope he is healthy going forward if they plan on locking them up, thats all

     

     

    According to multiple sources, the Patriots would like to get cornerback Aqib Talib done soon. This makes sense for a few reasons: a) the Patriots don't have any real cornerbacks beyond Alfonso Dennard; b) the Patriots gave up a fourth-round pick for Talib so if he walks, it would look pretty bad; c) with a flooded market at cornerback, the Patriots are probably playing the, "You should take our deal because once you get out there, your price is only going to do down.";

    • Whether Talib takes the bait could be a different matter, but like I wrote after the combine, the Patriots wants Talib back and he's their top target at No. 1 cornerback;
    • The Patriots can't afford Dolphins free agent cornerback Sean Smith. Unless they're laying in the weeds, it would be a longshot for them to land him;
    • If the Patriots get Talib back, I would figure them to be in on guys like Keenan Lewis (Steelers), Nnamdi Asomugha (Eagles), Derek Cox (Jaguars), Quentin Jammer (Chargers), Antoine Cason (Chargers), Chris Houston (Lions) and Cary Williams (Ravens). The Patriots could pit Kyle Arrington and Brice McCain against each other at slot corner;
     
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    I hope they make a serious offer to talib. I would rather go with something that we know works than just signing a hole bunch of guys and seeing what stick it seems to never work out.  

     
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    I hope they make a serious offer to talib. I would rather go with something that we know works than just signing a hole bunch of guys and seeing what stick it seems to never work out.  




    Yep, just make sure he checks out physically. Not good when he comes out the biggest game but I def. agree about knowing what u have and his competitiveness is an assett too.

     
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    I just saw these nuggets on a column by Bedard. Not sure how good his sources is but it seem the pats still have Talib on high priority which may be smokescreen but who knows.. He seems to think they could still be in play for a couple mid level guys even if they do sign talib and thats good news I guess, but I hope he is healthy going forward if they plan on locking them up, thats all

     

     

    According to multiple sources, the Patriots would like to get cornerback Aqib Talib done soon. This makes sense for a few reasons: a) the Patriots don't have any real cornerbacks beyond Alfonso Dennard; b) the Patriots gave up a fourth-round pick for Talib so if he walks, it would look pretty bad; c) with a flooded market at cornerback, the Patriots are probably playing the, "You should take our deal because once you get out there, your price is only going to do down.";

    • Whether Talib takes the bait could be a different matter, but like I wrote after the combine, the Patriots wants Talib back and he's their top target at No. 1 cornerback;
    • The Patriots can't afford Dolphins free agent cornerback Sean Smith. Unless they're laying in the weeds, it would be a longshot for them to land him;
    • If the Patriots get Talib back, I would figure them to be in on guys like Keenan Lewis (Steelers), Nnamdi Asomugha (Eagles), Derek Cox (Jaguars), Quentin Jammer (Chargers), Antoine Cason (Chargers), Chris Houston (Lions) and Cary Williams (Ravens). The Patriots could pit Kyle Arrington and Brice McCain against each other at slot corner;



    just as long as they don't overpay I'd love to have Talib back but it all comes down to cost. If they get Talib and say Houston, Lewis, or Cox I'd be ecstatic

     
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    I just saw these nuggets on a column by Bedard. Not sure how good his sources is but it seem the pats still have Talib on high priority which may be smokescreen but who knows.. He seems to think they could still be in play for a couple mid level guys even if they do sign talib and thats good news I guess, but I hope he is healthy going forward if they plan on locking them up, thats all

     

     

    According to multiple sources, the Patriots would like to get cornerback Aqib Talib done soon. This makes sense for a few reasons: a) the Patriots don't have any real cornerbacks beyond Alfonso Dennard; b) the Patriots gave up a fourth-round pick for Talib so if he walks, it would look pretty bad; c) with a flooded market at cornerback, the Patriots are probably playing the, "You should take our deal because once you get out there, your price is only going to do down.";

    • Whether Talib takes the bait could be a different matter, but like I wrote after the combine, the Patriots wants Talib back and he's their top target at No. 1 cornerback;
    • The Patriots can't afford Dolphins free agent cornerback Sean Smith. Unless they're laying in the weeds, it would be a longshot for them to land him;
    • If the Patriots get Talib back, I would figure them to be in on guys like Keenan Lewis (Steelers), Nnamdi Asomugha (Eagles), Derek Cox (Jaguars), Quentin Jammer (Chargers), Antoine Cason (Chargers), Chris Houston (Lions) and Cary Williams (Ravens). The Patriots could pit Kyle Arrington and Brice McCain against each other at slot corner;

     



    just as long as they don't overpay I'd love to have Talib back but it all comes down to cost. If they get Talib and say Houston, Lewis, or Cox I'd be ecstatic

     



    Plus an older smart safety like an adrian wilson or Ed Reed would have me jumping through the roof.

     
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    I just saw these nuggets on a column by Bedard. Not sure how good his sources is but it seem the pats still have Talib on high priority which may be smokescreen but who knows.. He seems to think they could still be in play for a couple mid level guys even if they do sign talib and thats good news I guess, but I hope he is healthy going forward if they plan on locking them up, thats all

     

     

    According to multiple sources, the Patriots would like to get cornerback Aqib Talib done soon. This makes sense for a few reasons: a) the Patriots don't have any real cornerbacks beyond Alfonso Dennard; b) the Patriots gave up a fourth-round pick for Talib so if he walks, it would look pretty bad; c) with a flooded market at cornerback, the Patriots are probably playing the, "You should take our deal because once you get out there, your price is only going to do down.";

    • Whether Talib takes the bait could be a different matter, but like I wrote after the combine, the Patriots wants Talib back and he's their top target at No. 1 cornerback;
    • The Patriots can't afford Dolphins free agent cornerback Sean Smith. Unless they're laying in the weeds, it would be a longshot for them to land him;
    • If the Patriots get Talib back, I would figure them to be in on guys like Keenan Lewis (Steelers), Nnamdi Asomugha (Eagles), Derek Cox (Jaguars), Quentin Jammer (Chargers), Antoine Cason (Chargers), Chris Houston (Lions) and Cary Williams (Ravens). The Patriots could pit Kyle Arrington and Brice McCain against each other at slot corner;

     



    just as long as they don't overpay I'd love to have Talib back but it all comes down to cost. If they get Talib and say Houston, Lewis, or Cox I'd be ecstatic

     

     



    Plus an older smart safety like an adrian wilson or Ed Reed would have me jumping through the roof.

     



    Not to fond of Wilson, I think he's to far down the backside of his career but I'd like Mikell or Reed for a couple years to train T. Wilson and see if he can handle it or give them a year or two to find a replacement

     
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    I just saw these nuggets on a column by Bedard. Not sure how good his sources is but it seem the pats still have Talib on high priority which may be smokescreen but who knows.. He seems to think they could still be in play for a couple mid level guys even if they do sign talib and thats good news I guess, but I hope he is healthy going forward if they plan on locking them up, thats all

     

     

    According to multiple sources, the Patriots would like to get cornerback Aqib Talib done soon. This makes sense for a few reasons: a) the Patriots don't have any real cornerbacks beyond Alfonso Dennard; b) the Patriots gave up a fourth-round pick for Talib so if he walks, it would look pretty bad; c) with a flooded market at cornerback, the Patriots are probably playing the, "You should take our deal because once you get out there, your price is only going to do down.";

    • Whether Talib takes the bait could be a different matter, but like I wrote after the combine, the Patriots wants Talib back and he's their top target at No. 1 cornerback;
    • The Patriots can't afford Dolphins free agent cornerback Sean Smith. Unless they're laying in the weeds, it would be a longshot for them to land him;
    • If the Patriots get Talib back, I would figure them to be in on guys like Keenan Lewis (Steelers), Nnamdi Asomugha (Eagles), Derek Cox (Jaguars), Quentin Jammer (Chargers), Antoine Cason (Chargers), Chris Houston (Lions) and Cary Williams (Ravens). The Patriots could pit Kyle Arrington and Brice McCain against each other at slot corner;

     



    just as long as they don't overpay I'd love to have Talib back but it all comes down to cost. If they get Talib and say Houston, Lewis, or Cox I'd be ecstatic

     

     



    Plus an older smart safety like an adrian wilson or Ed Reed would have me jumping through the roof.

     

     



    Not to fond of Wilson, I think he's to far down the backside of his career but I'd like Mikell or Reed for a couple years to train T. Wilson and see if he can handle it or give them a year or two to find a replacement

     

     



    I disagree, i think with older players that have high football IQ's they age slower than players who's games are predicated on thier physical attributes.Adrian is also a leader on defense we could really use a guy like him. I dont get how you can want Ed Reed but wanna pass on a taller more physical player like Adrian Wilson when they are pretty much the same player except adrian is a couple years younger. Adrian has also been healthier the past couple years than ed reed. I do like your idea about mikell though, Never the less i think we can both agree that the D would benefit greatly with an expieranced veteran in the backfield.  

     

     
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    Re: good CB rankings guide

    here's the link to the article:

     

    "http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000147048/article/free-agency-primer-ranking-the-cornerbacks"

     

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