He Choked plain and simple.....Need a new kicker.

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In response to BabeParilli's comment:

Babe, if you had watched the play and knew anything about kicking, you know that the blame goes to the holder.  The ball was angled at about a 60 degree angle instead of being straight up and down.  With the bad hold, Goskowski never had a chance to make that kick.

In all honesty, I didn't see the kick. 

I was going on the assumption it was a good snap and hold and he just missed it.

In response to BabeParilli's comment:

BB had no confidence in his ability to make a big kick in the 07 Super Bowl.  Not sure why he thought he wouldn’t choke today, trying to make a kick with a game on the line?

Hopefully management learned an important lesson today and moving forward doesn’t ever play for a field goal to end a game again.

 

its the first time that i remember him being in this situation, a comback field goal with no time left. I agree that he hits the fgs that don't mean as much but the ones he misses tend to be the ones under pressure, which he's had a few over his career here. 

I say that you never should put the game into the kickers hands anyways,  other than adam v they all choke. 

The fact of the matter is that we lost the game. It doesn't matter if he choked or not, but he wasn't the only who didn't do his job...On the other hand, our D looks good though...I see it this way, maybe this loss will bring them down to earth after flying high after their win over TEN..Let's hope they let all of their frustration out on the ravens next week...

I have to say that plenty of guys can kick some 50 yard FG's when the game is not on the line, but if you can't rely on a guy to kick a gimme game winner then you might not be able to rely on him ever again. If he had hit the upright or something then maybe, but this guy was a nervous wreck. He didn't even come close.

 

If you can't rely on your kicker your play calling will suffer in close games.

 

It also hurt that Adam hit a deep game winner 10 minutes before Ghost ghosted.

In response to PhatRex's comment:

I thought you wanted to see the Jets win a Superbowl without watching NFL films?

In response to sfpat's comment:

Ball looked a bit off straight, but lots of holds are like that.

While I agree that last kick was a choke job by someone (kicker,snapper or holder) the previous kick was pretty clutch and the Pats coaching staff could have tried getting it closer with 40 seconds left.

I suppose it's true that the offense was pretty bad for most of the day and there were a lot of contributing factors to the loss, but kickers are supposed to kick and they tend to be remembered more for what they don't do than what they do . . .    ummmm . . .   do.

 

Incidentally, old friend Adam Viniateri did his thing against the Vikings today, in case you missed it.

 

 

 

In response to ccnsd's comment:

Not as much pressure on that previous kick.

He's no Adam V. He's good on kickoffs but there is no way I would want him kicking to win a playoff or Superbowl game.

In response to BabeParilli's comment:

Without his 4 previous fieldgoals, they didn't really put themselves in a position to win.

In response to BabeParilli's comment:

I agree there was not as much pressure but a 50 yarder in the 4th quarter to get it to one score is pretty clutch. This game was lost by a lot of players not just Gostkowski. I can remember two dropped passes for first down as well as a terrible blocked punt (there was almost another one earlier too). The Cards gifted a win to the Pats but they could not capitilaze on it like they couldn't for most of the day. How many Pats drives seemed to die around the Cardinals 40 yard line and what the heck was up at the end of the first half.

In response to ccnsd's comment:

Again, as I say, there are usually a lot of fingers that can be pointed when you lose. But it still boils down the the endgame. Gostkowski blew that. The rest is fodder for discussion as to how we may avoid needing a clutch kick to win in the future, but it doesn't change the fact our kicker will never be confused with AV.

In response to GS1897's comment:

Well yeah. Nobody says he never hits a FG. I think the discussion is about how clutch he is.

Dang, you people just suck the fun out of EVERYTHING.  The offense was poor, the defense did pretty good considering, and special teams was bad in the kicking portion.  They deserved to lose, ALMOST won, and ended up losing.  That's the way it goes.  No one needs to be beheaded, folks.  

We do not have AV any more. That ship sailed a while ago. While Gost is not great he is good and who out there right now is better. Maybe next year they should replace him but I would argue the dropped Welker pass leading to the blocked punt cost more overrall.

In response to sfpat's comment:

 

Looking at replay... hold was fine. Gost got a bunch of turf on the kick though.

In response to BabeParilli's comment:

Another day another Babe diversion. He kicked 4 because the offense couldn't score a TD.

Or is this his fault...

 

Red Zone Efficiency 1/3 - 33%

I've never been a bigger squeelers fan ..  as I am riht now.

In response to Salcon's comment:

Agree with you.  No matter what happened before the FG attempt dosen't mean a thing.  The fact is he still had the chance to win the game if he just did his job.

 

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So the offense doesn't do it's job for 58 minutes while the kicker does but it's all the kicker's fault. The game would have gone to OT if.....

The standard Babe omission of one player when assigning blame.