Greastest GM and Coach in NFL History has set TB up with his best receiver corp!

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    I am flattered, I have only been on here a couple of days and I already have a stalker.  I must be doing something right.  I am clearly in creationismsucs head.  It's cute how he follows Harvey around.



     

     



     

    Phat virgin/Bustchise/section136/fatsam/whodeawhodat/Bungalo Bill/patriot rain/Uncle Rico...all the same moron, who troll for the same team, the NY Jets who SUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

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    1160 posts in one day is either prolific or just SADDDDDD! so what are your other aliases? i hate folks with more than one online persona!

     
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    All they need to do is win the Superbowl and they will be better than the 2007 receivers. I really don't care about stats and don't think stats are the proof of greatness. Wins on the other hand are proof of greatness. Stats are for Peyton Manning teams, not the Pats. As a wise man once said "stats are for losers!"

     

     



    No a SB win alone won't prove they are better, come on now.   So you are saying the 3 Patriots SB winning teams all had a better wr group then the 2007 wr group?  No they didn't, that's just plain silly!   Do you understand that the 2007 team was 1 game away from possibly being the greatest team ever?  A lot of that had to do with the WR's.  These WR's are far from that, sorry.  And you know what.. the greatest players ever are in the HOF, you tell them stats don't matter.  LOL!!

     

    BTW, your original post said greatest receiving corp in nfl history.  Do you mean even better then Rice, Taylor, Brent Jones? How about Art Monk, Gary Clark and Ricky Sanders? How about Holt, Bruce, Hakim and Proehl? How about Moss, Carter and Reed?  We could go on and on with great wr corps.  Kind of had to take you serious after your silly greatest ever comment.

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    Thats is what I said. If they win the superbowl, they will be better than the 2007 bunch and the 2007 bunch were better than all the other groups you mention! Just ask Al Michaels!

    It's ok if you don't talke me seriously,I don't take you seriously. Though you are really good at Photoshop, I don't think you know much aboout non-fantasy football and team building. Nor do I think you really know much about the Pats pre 2007.

     
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    Haha. Let's not get carried away here, but I do like where you're going with it. I just like how Brady isn't just looking at 1 or 2 WRS over and over, and then strutting down the field like he just built the Hoover Dam with his bare hands.

    I don't even like 2007, to be honest. I liked 2010 when had was developing Gronk and Hern and defenses were befuddled with what to do. It was balanced, he spread it all around and we ran the ball.

    It was beautious.

    I think this will be, similar to a Gronk/Hern development in 2010, but obviously with it happening more outside the hashes.

    Brady will improve, the WRs will improve and like I said, come October it's going to be non-Pats fans asking how BB does it.

    In the long run, this will be a huge benefit for the offense in the postseason.  I look at today as the day Wes Welker died to Pats fans.  It was like an exorcism for me even though it's clear Edelman can play the Welker role if we need it.

     



    yes

     

    It is back to TB's favorite receiver being the open receiver

    they won't match 2007 - already 3 slow games and the gemes coming are tough. But there is a very high ceiling

     

     
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    I think the potential is there. We'll see by year 3 and 4; which is a long ways away.

     
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    Is this supposed to be a sarcastic thread?  Hard to tell around this place with so many forum trolls here.

    I think one or two of the new guys will be good but as a whole, even with Edelman and Danny I don't think it will compare to 2007.  Not even close. 

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    Back in '82, I used to be able to throw a pigskin a quarter mile.

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    Nope, not sarcastic at all. If it was I would have used my sarcastic font. And you are probably right, there is no comparison. This receiving corp has three people that can stretch the field which is way better than 2007. They have a slot receiver that is better than in 2007, The TE's will be better once Sudfeld settles down and Gronk comes back. They have multiple backs that can catch which is much better than 2007. You are right, not even close!

     

     

     



    Sorry but I pretty much disagree with everything you say here.  You base everything on speculation.  Gronk isn't even back yet and you are counting on him picking up where he left off early last season?  Our other TE's haven't done anything.  Welker had a great first season in 2007, Amendola has been on the field 1 game and Edelman isn't in the same class.  The rookie wr's while they have the ability to stretch the field have not done so, yet. Moss could all day long.  The skill set of Moss, Welker, Stallworth and even Gaffney were much better at that stage of time then a bunch of rookies in their first season.  Could this group be better, possibly but they certainly aren't yet, not even close and I don't see it happening this season. 

     

     

    No comparison to 2007.  I laugh even as I type this reply. 

    Can this team get on the same page and make a big push in the playoffs, sure!  If everyone can get and stay healthy and continue to improve.

     

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    That's ok TFB12, I don't agree with anything you say either since everything you say is also based on speculation that everything and everybody is worse than they really are.

     

    I would rather have a receiver like Amendola that catches the important passes than a Welker that drops them. And the skill set of  "Moss, Welker, Stallworth and even Gaffney" are not as good as the rookies and Amendola. They had more experience but not  better skill sets as a whole. The rookies are bigger, faster, quicker and run more routes. They will also be together longer than 2007 guys were so there will also be more cohesion than with the 2007  guys.

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    I was one of those people who tried to be hopeful about Amendola, but let's face it, he apparently cannot be counted on to appear in many games--whereas Welker was about as tough a player as there is, missing only a few games over the last six years.  He might have dropped a few passes, but he has also gained a heck of a lot more yardage than Amendola.  I would rather have Welker for 16 games and 1200+ yards than Amendola for two or three spectacular games.     

     
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    I would rather have a receiver like Amendola that catches the important passes than a Welker that drops them.



    Which important passes has Amendola caught?

     
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    I was one of those people who tried to be hopeful about Amendola, but let's face it, he apparently cannot be counted on to appear in many games--whereas Welker was about as tough a player as there is, missing only a few games over the last six years.  He might have dropped a few passes, but he has also gained a heck of a lot more yardage than Amendola.  I would rather have Welker for 16 games and 1200+ yards than Amendola for two or three spectacular games.     

     



    Agreed.  Amendola has only had 1 spectacular game in his career, it was 160 receiving yards, if I am not mistaken, and he has only had 3 games with 100+ receiving yards and one of those was this year.    Welker has had how many?  Gotta stay on the field to help a team. 

     
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    Thats is what I said. If they win the superbowl, they will be better than the 2007 bunch and the 2007 bunch were better than all the other groups you mention! Just ask Al Michaels!

     

    It's ok if you don't talke me seriously,I don't take you seriously. Though you are really good at Photoshop, I don't think you know much aboout non-fantasy football and team building. Nor do I think you really know much about the Pats pre 2007.




    Um, okay.  Not much more I can say that will show you how crazy your comment is. I know plenty about real football, pre2007 Pats and team building as I have played the game many years and also coached football.

    It is pretty ignorant and insulting to think this current crop of rookie WR's with a often injured Amendola and a used to be QB turned slot receiver, along with a TE who hasn't been on the field for a long time after both arm and back surgeries, will make this the best receiver corp in the history of football over the 2007 squad and the greatest receiver groups ever to play the games such as... Rice, Taylor, Brent Jones? How about Art Monk, Gary Clark and Ricky Sanders? How about Holt, Bruce, Hakim and Proehl? How about Moss, Carter and Reed, just to name a few.

    Put the kool aid down, please.  I think you have had too much to drink.  I can't even understand how anyone could think that.  Are you really sure you want to stand by your comments?  It's not too late to admit you have made a big blunder.

    But thanks for the nice comment about the photoshops.

     
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    Haha. Let's not get carried away here, but I do like where you're going with it. I just like how Brady isn't just looking at 1 or 2 WRS over and over, and then strutting down the field like he just built the Hoover Dam with his bare hands.

    I don't even like 2007, to be honest. I liked 2010 when had was developing Gronk and Hern and defenses were befuddled with what to do. It was balanced, he spread it all around and we ran the ball.

    It was beautious.

    I think this will be, similar to a Gronk/Hern development in 2010, but obviously with it happening more outside the hashes.

    Brady will improve, the WRs will improve and like I said, come October it's going to be non-Pats fans asking how BB does it.

    In the long run, this will be a huge benefit for the offense in the postseason.  I look at today as the day Wes Welker died to Pats fans.  It was like an exorcism for me even though it's clear Edelman can play the Welker role if we need it.

     

     



    yes

     

     

    It is back to TB's favorite receiver being the open receiver

    they won't match 2007 - already 3 slow games and the gemes coming are tough. But there is a very high ceiling

     

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    I hope you are right and TB's favorite is the open guy again. Now the question in my mind is Tom up for the challenge? He has had a binky for the last six years. Can he revert to the old ways again? I think he can but it will take time.

     
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    Crazy, to me that one play where both Edleman and Dobson beat their men deep because of the play action and were wide open for a TD and brady still try to dump it shorter to a covered man.

    This shows a few things,

     *Brady is not used to guys being able to blow by corners,

     *and/or Brady  has not as much confidence in the play action (yes they have used it to set up short passes) for long passes as he should becasue in the past 6 years they either did not have a ground game OR did not have a reciever the defense needed to worry about getting behind the defense. Now for once they have both.

     *Defenses still play the Patriots formula where they croud the line and clog short lanes considering safety backup as secondary.

    Not too concerned which recievers group is better 2007 or 2013...it is great to see the combination of ground game and more than one receiver that can get beghind coverage. 

    If 2 of the three Gronk, Danny A and Edleman are helathy in any given game then this offense will be harder to stop than any of the past few years..maybe not higher scoring ..but harder to shut down..and that is a big distiction.

     
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    Not too concerned which recievers group is better 2007 or 2013...it is great to see the combination of ground game and more than one receiver that can get beghind coverage. 

    If 2 of the three Gronk, Danny A and Edleman are helathy in any given game then this offense will be harder to stop than any of the past few years..maybe not higher scoring ..but harder to shut down..and that is a big distiction.



    That was the point I was trying to make. These receivers will be impossible to shut down.

     

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