Re: Great Offenses and Flashy WRs Do Not Win Championships
posted at 2/22/2013 11:50 AM EST
In response to UD6's comment:
In response to Muzwell's comment:
To me, blaming Welker for the Patriots failure to win Super Bowls is like Texans fans blaming Arian Foster because they stink in the playoffs. Paralysis by overanalysis.
He's a great player, it isn't his decision to run the offense through him. How about using Vereen more? How about a receiver that can get open other than Welker?
They needed Gronkowski to be healthy, and they needed Talib to stay in the game.
It's about winning playoff games and playing your best in the end games. The Ravens got hot, they're not a great team on offense or defense. Same with the Giants in 2011.
By the way, is Torrey Smith flashy? Victor Cruz? I'll take those guys, flashy or not.
Its way too easy to point to a single moment in a game and define that game by that moment. IMO, about the only time that makes any sense is if a FG kicker is set to kick a game winning or tying FG, and even then doing so diminishes what happened in the previous 60 minutes of the game.
RESPONSE: What are you talking about? No one here is blaming Welker for the loss to the Ravens. This thread isn't about Welker costing the Pats that playoff game. If you read my initial post to start this thread, you would know that.
In the pats playoff loss this year, the offense produced nearly 22 points (63%) below its regular season average. By contrast, the defense gave up 7 points (25%) above its average.
RESPONSE: Which jives with the article I posted above.
Not a fan of cold hard football facts.
RESPONSE: Yes...yes. After all these years, we know how adverse you are to cold, hard facts...LOL!!
All they do is mash already created stats and attempt to call them advanced metrics. I do, however, give the creator/former food and beverage writer for the boston herald props for his success. He's a great american story.
RESPONSE: What are you babbling about now, Dog(ggggg)??
Ultimately, my point is that I am not even sure the great patriots defenses of the early 00's could have produced a win given the pats poor offensive output. The best defense in the NFL by pts allowed this year still gave up an average of more than 15 points per game.
RESPONSE: This is because you do not understand the game.
Blame the D if you like, but if an organization has an offense that is supposed to produce and doesn't, it probably doesn't matter how great the d is.
RESPONSE: Again...why don't you read my initial post before popping off. I blamed the loss primarily on poor line play (DL and OL), and poor red zone play.