Re: Guess The Numbers/ Who am I??
posted at 11/12/2010 5:58 PM EST
In Response to Re: Guess The Numbers/ Who am I??
[QUOTE]TO Louie and ALL : Louie , No offence that I'm not simply taking the stats you're throwing out as dead-correct scripture, but just so We ALL can see for ourselves the simple & I'm sure, correctly formulated, numbers and stats which you've use, ALL you have to do is provide a link AND/OR merely break the numbers down further, per each year for Brady with Moss & Brady without Moss, so we can do it ourselves... This shouldn't be a big deal at all, so we'll ALL just wait here for you...thanx in advance. ALSO, while you're doing this, some simple questions I need here: Did you happen to IN-clude or EX-clude Brady's 2000 & 2001 very pedestrian year totals for these 2 seasons (games in which he ONLY started? games in which he didn't start too? Which of these 2? IF including these seasons PRE-Moss, wow-That's gonna massively bring down each & ALL of Brady's PRE-Moss totals, across the whole stats board average, right?). Also, Why didn't you factor in ALL of Matt cassel's statistics including last years numbers while Cassell was at Kansas City, you just gave us Cassel's 2010 totals (Boy, Cassel had a pretty bad statistical year in 2009, ya know?). Also, In your stat #1 w/ Tom Brady WITH Moss, you only accounted for Brady's 2007 & 2009 Seasons in total with moss, Why not count Brady's single game stats in 2008 before injury, and far more importantly-Brady's 1st 4 games Still WITH Moss in 2010 (those probably have to be added in as well in order to get a completely objective account, correct?). Also, I have a link that says in 1 simple area that says a few stats differently... For instance, you say Brady's 1st 4 games this year- With Moss compl %=70%/Then Without Moss compl %=57%. That's a difference of 13%, right? How come the link says the difference is 11.4%? Did you just try to make it simple for us, by rounding the number up to the highest 2 Numbers? Second for instance, you say Brady's 1st 4 games this year- With Moss QB rating=109.1, then Without Moss QB rating=82.6. Then, How come again the link I have gives these numbers for Brady W/ Moss Qb Rating=109, then Without Moss Qb rating=84.1. Again, Did you just try to simplify them for us? Like, the W/Moss LOWER rating of 109 was just simplified to 109.1, while the Post Moss HIGHER Qb Rating of 84.1, was just rounded down to a far more easy to comprehend number of 82.6.? Did you do this type of simplification to help us, ALL & EVERYwhere across the boards? Thank you for doing that, to help us. Yet again, we'll wait for the link... Then wad'dya think? I'm thinkin' we all celebrate your good findings together, right? Sounds good here...
Posted by LazarusintheSanatorium[/QUOTE]
All good points. I wrote down the stats, but had no intention of posting the stats anywhere. It was meant for my knowledge. I write things down because that's how I remeber them better. Some of the stats I rouned, some I didn't, but they were just meant for me to have a general idea. Also some of these stats I wrote down on one night, and others on another night. They were not consistent at all. They were notes,. I was being lazy. I should have been more precise. It takes a lot of effort to do these stats and there is no doubt in my mind you could point out a percentage point here and there, but they're pretty accurate.
We could go back and forth all day. I could say Matt Cassel's first year was much better than Brady's first. Then you could say Cassel had Moss and Welker. Then I could say that I thought Moss was a cancer and now you're trying to use him as example of why Cassel had an advantage. We could go on and on all day. Unfortunately I type with two fingers. So I'll get to my point.
Those numbers were meant to give a little perspective. I don't put up Matt Cassel's numbers against Tom Brady to say he's as good as Tom Brady. That's absurd. I do it for perspective. Football is a team game and Tom Brady gets way to much credit for three championships that were won by a team that was led by it's defense and special teams. A team headed by the greatest coach in football history(IMO) who made his bones and built a legacy,....ON DEFENSE. His genius on defense is what first seperated him. So how is it silly to think that his defense a big part of it.
I think people somehow get the 3 championships all jumbled up together with the 2007 season. Some how they come up with this idea that Tom Brady imposed his will on defenses time and time again, or that he was throwing gamming winning TD passes with no time left on the clock to win championships. The fact is he won three championships by 9 points and a had whole helluva lot of help to do it. From coaching to defense to special teams to officiating. Tom Brady got every call and every bounce along the way. He played pretty good doing it, but let's keep it real.