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Has anybody seen Rusty?

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    Let him rest a while, crying takes a lot out of a man
     
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    Not true. I saw brady not play well last January, handing off a win to your jets. So, I saw signs of this earlier this year. I posted about the incessant, embeded problem which is derived from our base shotgun offense. People didn';t like this because they want 40 points per game, fireworks with streaking WRs, and don't get that we can't win a SB like that. That's their problem. Brady and Offense had poor 1st halves prior to last week's game.  
    Posted by RidingWithTheKingII


    Welcome back Russ. This board was boring without you.

    I don't know if I can put a finger on the "why", but clearly the Pats offense was more than anemic during that playoff game last year against the Yets. We scored 3 total points in the 1st half of play, while giving up an interception for a long return, and then Chung's miffed fake punt. The interception set up the Jets 1st TD, and the fake punt, the Jets 2nd TD of the half. You got to think without those 2 plays which clearly put the Jests in relative easy scoring position, the outcome (even though Brady got sacked 5 times) may have been very different. 

    The D on the other hand, played well in spurts, but had horrendous 2nd and 4th quarters, in part, aided by those 2 key turnovers I noted above. Still, when the game came down to crunchtime, the D couldn't hold off the Jets when it really mattered and when we closed it by a TD very late in the game. 

    I know you are not a Brady hater, but if we take this playoff game and hold it up, it certainly appears to me that those 2 key turnovers, plus not putting any real points on the board in the 1st half is what did us in. The D as it was built, and as depleted as it was last year come playoff time, simply isn't built (maybe even this year as well), to hold the game in check while the Offense catches up. 

    Quick starts, fast finishes. If that comes out of the spread, so be it. We need points, and we need to score them early and often to put our defnese in the best position to succeed. 
     
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    If Brady and the offense sputter in the playoffs, they will lose and people will blame the defense. To me this is silly. This defense is not going to win playoff games. If they are going to make a run to the super bowl, it will be because Brady plays well, period.
     
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    Re: Has anybody seen Rusty? LMFAO What a bandwagon fan this guy is. LOL he bashes one of the 5 best QBs in the history of the...

    Surprised
     
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    If Brady and the offense sputter in the playoffs, they will lose and people will blame the defense. To me this is silly. This defense is not going to win playoff games. If they are going to make a run to the super bowl, it will be because Brady plays well, period.
    Posted by digger0862


    Wait, what? You can't blame the defense for losing because they're not good?
     
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    Wait, what? You can't blame the defense for losing because they're not good?
    Posted by shenanigan

    Only if they play worse than they have to this point. The offense carries this team, not the defense.
     
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    Forgive my basketball analogy ... but at some point you need a bench. No team is equally good at offense and defense in the modern NFL. It hasn't been that way since the end of the Cowboys/Niners era and the salary cap. But at some point you have to recognize that the other unit needs to step up. Brady had half the tools he has now in the playoffs, and he managed to step up and get a win when the defense stumbled against elite offenses back in the day. I think this team just needs the "D" to "play" elite once or twice in the playoffs to get through a 3 to 4 team gauntlet.  Thankfully, I think the addition of Carter and Anderson might be enough to add that potential against teams like Baltimore and the Jets, who NE has been inconsistent against on account of their dominant defenses. 
    Posted by zbellino

    All good points and I agree with all of it. The defense stunk it up in the playoffs against the Ravens but I thought they did a good job for the most part against the Jets last year. Our offense and special teams gave the Jets short fields and the defense didn't step up on those occasions, but I didn't blame the D for the loss.

    I guess what I'm really saying is that my expectations are already low for the defense so the offense has to win the game for us. If they don't then I blame the offense, if that makes any sense. lol
     
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    In Response to Re: Has anybody seen Rusty? : That is essentially my reaction to the whole crowd.   Scoring 21 points against an elite defense isn't world beating ... but it's an accomplishment.  Giving up 28 or 33 to a terrible offense like Baltimore or the Jests is very bad.  Then my other reaction is even simpler ... if the defense was so good, or even acceptable, after that loss, why did BB change the entire scheme and fire/demote 5 of the starters?  It is blatantly obvious he didn't like how the defense performed ... because he handed Meriweather, Sanders, TBC, and Warren their hats and demoted Cunningham. And then switched to 43.
    Posted by zbellino


    Fair and honest points. But also lets be honest about those 21 points. 14 of them came before the last 2 minutes, the other TD came basically when the game was just about decided..I think with 2 minutes or less to go. Our Offense as prolific as it was, should have not been held to 3 points in a half, and basically shut out until very late in the game.

    I will agree that the Defense was bad as well. Giving up 28 points to the Jets crappy offense is nothign to write home about..however, 14 of those 28 points were off Pats miscues. 1, the Brady INT that was returned to the Pats 7 yard line, and the 2nd which was the muffed fake punt. Erase both of those errors and we possibly have a different outcome. Sure the D let them score in each situation, but the offense and ST didn't do them any favors by giving the Jests great field position.

    I think in the end it was a total team meltdown, led by one of the worst coaching exhibitions of BB's tenure. Bad decisions all the way around. And, if that outcome prompted BB to switch his defense, I'm good with that. The problem is we are still faced, even after firing 5 starters, with a mediocre defense at best.  
     
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    You really think letting Sanchez look like Rodgers doesn't put the blame on the D? The D let the jets score 9 points more than the average we allowed. The O scored 2 points more than the average the jets' allowed. The D allowed 6 points more than the jets' average score. The O scored 11 points less than it's average scoring. Looks like the D failed on two of two measures and at least the O exceeded the norm given up by the jets. Allowing 14 points in the 4th quarter is what killed us. And in no case should the D be blamed without mentioning the O-line. Five sacks is pathetic at home in a playoff game.
    Posted by BabeParilli

    The Jets only had one scoring drive starting in their own territory. All 4 of the Jets TD drives totaled 5 minutes. They had a time of possession of 25 minutes. So, 80% of the time that the Jets had the ball the D did their jobs. The red zone D was horrible, though, that's where the D could have won the game for us but didn't.

    It's a team game so in the playoffs you need all of the parts to play well or you will fail. The D was not totally to blame for the loss. You mentioned the O-line allowing five sacks. Receivers had critical drops. The special teams set the Jets up for easy TDs at the end of the second and fourth quarters.

    Obviously, I wish we had a better D. We would dominate and win multiple super bowls. I still think we can win with this D as long as the other facets of the team play well.
     
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    In Response to Re: Has anybody seen Rusty? : Another point proven here. I absolutely don't delete my accoounts, I have been banned 3 total times now due to insecure people reporting me. As stated above, I ask why people like Zbellino, QBall, Hurlie, Shizzlie and all the other people who have been challeneged by me in the past, losing a debate and apparently embarrassed by it, align yourself with a troll. This is where it again proves that I am not in the wrong.  You are a troll. A Jets troll, but they align with you. Case closed on this aspect.
    Posted by RidingWithTheKingII


    Rusty -I have found a source that might help you:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalomania

    You should read this with a mirror handy

    Rusty - I always write the posts I aim at you with smile on my face - you make me laugh Rusty - you desperately cling to the notion that you are absolutely right in every single thing you say - you have postured yourself as the Khan like superior intellect - but most smart people I know, while many might have ego's about their IQ's, they almost all are intellectually honest and realize that they don't know EVERYTHING and are occasionally wrong

    Nothing wrong with you passionately advocating your opinion(and that's what these posts are - no matter how much you believe everything you write is undeniable fact) - but your insufferable need for rightness does become a little tedious at times

    So - Rusty - can you outline for this board the debates you have had with me personally that you have won? Who decides who wins?

    Lastly - Rusty - I am not embarrased by anything that you have written in response to things I have written - you and I disagree on some things - we agree on others - and I am entertained by going back and forth with you about it - a fun way to kill time some slow days:)

    Good to have you back Rusty - the board wasn't the same without you
     
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    In Response to Re: Has anybody seen Rusty? : That is funny. Thanks for the info.
    Posted by NYPat


    hes always posted on the bruins page...so whats your point vanessa??
     
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    id listen/read rusty on just about anything, right or wrong , agree or disagree, over 90% of the posters on this board.....

    someone needs to start a new thread on the blog postin awards... i think it may have been p-mike that did it last year... can wait to see this years award winners.
     
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    The Jets got rid of what 5 or 6 players and picks to get Sanchez and he ain't that good. If the Jets fail to make the playoffs two years in row (starting this year) one of the primary reasons will be because Sanchez has not developed enough as a QB. I give some credit to Sanchez for making the occasional big play, but he is not the type of QB that wills his team to win (see: Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Roethlisburger, Brees, or even Ryan) which is what want when draft a QB in the top 5. I might also say that Flacco, Stafford, and Dalton are all better than Sanchez at this stage of their young careers.

    When the Jets get old, what happens then ?
     
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    In Response to Re: Has anybody seen Rusty? : Forgive my basketball analogy ... but at some point you need a bench. No team is equally good at offense and defense in the modern NFL. It hasn't been that way since the end of the Cowboys/Niners era and the salary cap. But at some point you have to recognize that the other unit needs to step up. Brady had half the tools he has now in the playoffs, and he managed to step up and get a win when the defense stumbled against elite offenses back in the day. I think this team just needs the "D" to "play" elite once or twice in the playoffs to get through a 3 to 4 team gauntlet.  Thankfully, I think the addition of Carter and Anderson might be enough to add that potential against teams like Baltimore and the Jets, who NE has been inconsistent against on account of their dominant defenses. 
    Posted by zbellino


    Well there is a symbiotic/synergistic relationship between offense and defense. The teams that win the most games tend to have an offense that can carry the defense when needed and vice versa.

    Fort the past 2-4 years, I think one could argue that the offense has carried the defense more often than the defense carrying the offense.

    This year is the defense has inconsistently shown that they can carry the offense. The question is, when a playoff game is on the line - do you trust the defense enough to make a stop when we need to?

    I'm not quite there yet, but am hoping that the last 5 games...the defense can continue to improve.

    On the other hand, offense needs to know how to combat those situations when the spread offense is NOT working - and find other ways to score. Again, they have 5 games to work on some things.
     
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    In Response to Re: Has anybody seen Rusty? : Who were those players the Jets traded for the Sanchez pick?  Would you consider 4 playoff wins in his first two years willing his team to win?  How about 8 4th qtr comeback wins?  How about playing his best football in the playoffs?  The QB has 1 job, win games.  Sanchez has done that better than  most QBs in extremely small sample of a career. 
    Posted by KreepyKing


    Glad you like your QB.  Pats fans love him too.
    Two AFC title game appearances is quite an accomplishment in his 3 years. 
    You should be proud.
    Of course it doesn't compare to TBs 2 Super Bowl wins in his first 3 years of playing, but ....after so many years of drought, a couple of showers must be a welcome sight.
     
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    The best part about your post is that in a league with a salary cap, equalizing teams ability to spend more than other teams, you are more concerned with the Jets paying Bart Scott to play for the Jets instead of the Pats paying Bodden, Ty Warren, TBC, Kaczur & Butler 10 million NOT TO PLAY for the Pats and Ocho another 5 to be a HUGE bust.  You just can't make this stuff up.  Speaking over overrated CBs, how's McCourty doing this year?  Didn't he have a better rookie season than Revis?  I guess that little pipe dream is over. And yet you continue to make proclamations about players during their first year.  Priceless!
    Posted by KreepyKing


    Can you please increase the font size so Rusty gets your point?  And change everything to all Caps? Thanks!
     
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    In Response to Re: Has anybody seen Rusty? : What does Brady have to do with Sanchez?   And why didn't you mention that he hasn't won a single playoff game in 3 seasons? 
    Posted by KreepyKing


    Oh, just comparing the first 3 years since you are soooooo happy with your QBs progression over that time.
    Quite the comparison, isn't it.
    Anyway, another reason why I did not mention Brady not winning a PO game in the past 3 years is because, it's only been 2.  That would be lying and I try not to do that.
    So enjoy your QB...I'm sure the rest of the league will too.  :)
     
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