Has Randy Moss lost his mind?

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    Re: Has Randy Moss lost his mind?

    I would offer him a 2 year deal with a 3rd year team option.  Put the onus on him.  If he rejects it, announce it, and then trade him out to an NFC team like the Rams.


     
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    I don't know....keeping Randy a little on edge might be a good thing.  He's playing for a contract so he might work a little harder kind of like he did his first time around in New England

    On the other hand, he could just implode and get distracted.  Its a 50/50 either way.
     
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    I think Randy would still be useful to the team for another year or two but he didn't do himself any favors by talking about how sore he was, how beat up he felt after just 1 game, how old he felt, etc etc.  I mean if you are the Patriots & you hear that you can't be too motivated to get an extension done.  I really feel kinda bad for Randy because I believe he is sincere in wanting to continue playing for the Pats & I don't think he is fully aware yet of the damage he just did himself.
     
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    Just give him the contract that they offered Mankins. a 4 year 40 million dollar deal for Randy is good for a WR his age. He's 32, by the time the contract ends he'll be 36. I think at 36 his age would begin to slow down his play, but just extend him. 
     
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    FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- Patriots wide receiver Randy Moss arrived at the podium following New England's 38-24 triumph over the Cincinnati Bengals stressing that he was "not here to talk" or "cause trouble," but then rambled for nearly 16 minutes where he did the exact opposite while trying to explain comments from earlier this week where he said he felt unwanted in New England.

    Moss, who didn't speak to the assembled media during the preseason and often limits his postgame interviews to a small amount of questions, launched right into his agenda shortly after arriving at the podium.

    "I take my job seriously, I said it time and time again, but I think there’s -- I really don’t want to say the organization -- but around New England and the New England area, there's a lot of people who don’t want to see me do good. The reason why, I don’t know and I really don’t care. I just want to let [reporters] know that -- y’all the ones doing all the writing, putting all the pen and pad to ink -- anything that I may say, will get blown out of proportion.

    "I think earlier in the week, I don’t know where you're at, but I got asked a question about being here and being unhappy. Me being unhappy doesn't have anything to do with me toning my game down. I’m here and I understand my role, my role is to take the ball deep and take the top off the defense. Earlier in the week, a lot of people were coming at me wrong about me being unhappy. It’s like, if you work for somebody, everybody in here, you work for somebody, unless you're independent, if your boss comes to you, sometimes you want your boss to say you're doing a good job. That’s every man and woman in here; You work for somebody, you want your boss to be able to come through and say he read your column last night or this morning, and he liked the column. That’s just the way with football. If you do a good job, and you think you do a good job, you want to be appreciated. I don’t think me, personally, I'm appreciated.

    "I don’t want to take anything out of context, because I am a man and this is a job, but I take my job very seriously, to heart. I want to let you all know, let the fans, the real fans of New England, know that I’m not here to cause any trouble, I'm here to play the last year out on my contract. I said time and time again before i signed my first contract here, I want to be in New England; it's a well-coached group here. I never said I wanted to leave New England, there's a lot of things that are being written or being said that have people looking at me in a negative light. I don’t want to be in a negative light. I want everybody to understand -- you can print it, I don’t care how you put it to ink -- I want to be here with the Patriots. I love being here. I just think that, from a business standpoint, this will be my last year with the Patriots and I’m not retiring; I'm still going to play some football. I just want to get that off my chest, understand that this is a business."

    More to come from Moss, who then turned it over to reporters for a very interesting Q&A session with reporters.
     
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    He wants to stay a Patriot.  He want's a deal now and it's time to give him one.  He takes a lot of pressure off of other receivers and he is still one of the best in the game.  He, like others just wants that security and a commitment from the team.  Sign him, keep him happy and enjoy the numbers he gives the Pats.
     
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    If he was still the best in the game he would have come down with at least 4 passes that were thrown at him today. But I will say, everyone else is paid for what they have done in the past, so pay the man for being one of the best the last 3 yrs.  It was fun watching the game today. Brady has a lot of toys to play with...Hernandez,Welker,Tate,Faulk,Moss,Gronk, a healthy Edelman.....then with a quicker Taylor in the backfield.. This is going to be good.
     
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    Re: Has Randy Moss lost his mind?

    The guy has averaged eighty three plus catches over the last three years and
    15+ TD's.....

    He's taken the discount too, so no matter how much the media likes to villiify  him with his nuttiness, he's still an important cog in the wheel of the N.E Patriots.

    So if you want to judge him on decorum that's one thing but as a football player 
    he's gonna be kinda tough to replace....

    I'm anxious to see how performs next week against the "Not Yets."
     
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    Pay the man.  This offense looks much different without him.
     
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    Moss is not crazy, he just speaks from his heart and you get his thoughts unfiltered. We want Randy here. What he is saying is that he was not being negative. He wants to be here. I hope the Pats make it happen. Randy is probably the most physically gifted WR to play the game, behind Rice he is the 2nd best ever WR to play the game. This offense is so gifted right now. You take away Moss and that changes.
     
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    My sister's best friend has a cousin who knows this guy who said that Randy Moss has lost all of his money in an Asian Casino...  Therefore, he needs a bigger contract before he goes broke.
     
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    [QUOTE]Just give him the contract that they offered Mankins. a 4 year 40 million dollar deal for Randy is good for a WR his age. He's 32, by the time the contract ends he'll be 36. I think at 36 his age would begin to slow down his play, but just extend him. 
    Posted by 49Patriots[/QUOTE]

    Sorry 49 normally I agree with what you are saying but this time I have to disagree. 40 over 4 is about what he's making now on average and is way to long. If this was 07 I'd agree he deserved it but his skills are on the downward slope, he's even admitted it. At this time I wouldn't offer him more then a 2 year @ 15 and I think that's giving him a bonus for past performance.
     
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    [QUOTE]http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4683176/deep-thoughts-from-moss By Chris Forsberg FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- Patriots wide receiver Randy Moss arrived at the podium following New England's 38-24 triumph over the Cincinnati Bengals stressing that he was "not here to talk" or "cause trouble," but then rambled for nearly 16 minutes where he did the exact opposite while trying to explain comments from earlier this week where he said he felt unwanted in New England . Moss, who didn't speak to the assembled media during the preseason and often limits his postgame interviews to a small amount of questions, launched right into his agenda shortly after arriving at the podium. "I take my job seriously, I said it time and time again, but I think there’s -- I really don’t want to say the organization -- but around New England and the New England area, there's a lot of people who don’t want to see me do good. The reason why, I don’t know and I really don’t care. I just want to let [reporters] know that -- y’all the ones doing all the writing, putting all the pen and pad to ink -- anything that I may say, will get blown out of proportion. "I think earlier in the week, I don’t know where you're at, but I got asked a question about being here and being unhappy. Me being unhappy doesn't have anything to do with me toning my game down. I’m here and I understand my role, my role is to take the ball deep and take the top off the defense. Earlier in the week, a lot of people were coming at me wrong about me being unhappy. It’s like, if you work for somebody, everybody in here, you work for somebody, unless you're independent, if your boss comes to you, sometimes you want your boss to say you're doing a good job. That’s every man and woman in here; You work for somebody, you want your boss to be able to come through and say he read your column last night or this morning, and he liked the column. That’s just the way with football. If you do a good job, and you think you do a good job, you want to be appreciated. I don’t think me, personally, I'm appreciated. "I don’t want to take anything out of context, because I am a man and this is a job, but I take my job very seriously, to heart. I want to let you all know, let the fans, the real fans of New England, know that I’m not here to cause any trouble, I'm here to play the last year out on my contract. I said time and time again before i signed my first contract here, I want to be in New England; it's a well-coached group here. I never said I wanted to leave New England, there's a lot of things that are being written or being said that have people looking at me in a negative light. I don’t want to be in a negative light. I want everybody to understand -- you can print it, I don’t care how you put it to ink -- I want to be here with the Patriots. I love being here. I just think that, from a business standpoint, this will be my last year with the Patriots and I’m not retiring; I'm still going to play some football. I just want to get that off my chest, understand that this is a business." More to come from Moss, who then turned it over to reporters for a very interesting Q&A session with reporters.
    Posted by Rocky[/QUOTE]
    I was about to post this when I noticed you did it.  These comments are nothing compared to what you people have made them out to be.  His criticism was aimed at the fans and media that are constantly calling for his head everytime he doesn't grab 2 TD's in a game. 

    Really, he needs to get over it and realize you can't talk your way out of criticism, only into more of it.
     
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    [QUOTE]Q. why don't they just give him one now. I mean they got Tom done. Do you guys think Randy is right and they don't want him? I mean I don't know. I just didn't think his timing was good to say all that. I was shocked. I was thinking be quite Randy. What do you guys think? Wes and Tom were fine though.
    Posted by WelkerRules[/QUOTE]

    sure i'd give him one now. but he needs to shut his  mouth from here on out until a deal is worked out, or its gonna look like he's disrespecting Kraft, and what happened to the last player that did that(Mankins). no contract
     
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    The man never had a mind to lose anyway.  Tons of talent but not much of a thinker.
     
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    Unless I'm reading all that incorrectly, all Randy is saying is that the people who are portraying him as "unhappy" are misrepresenting him. It sounds like Randy is playing a little reverse psychology here, with all this "I know it's a business" talk. He keeps repeating that he wants to be in New England (read: catching balls from Tom Brady). By implying he doesn't expect the Pats to win a bidding war for his services next spring, he's hinting at an extension now without actually saying it out loud. There's nothing wrong with Randy and I don't expect his play to suffer. But he's not stupid (or not entirely stupid, at any rate). He's seen how the Pats do business and I think he's just being a realist.




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    Wow that was so embarrassing that I was actually feeling bad for the guy. He contradicted himself at least five times during the thing; I'm still young, I'm sore I'm old, I'm happy, I'm disrespected, I don't care what you think, I don't want everyone to think I'm not going to give my all come the 9th week of the season when I have a bad game, it's a business, it's not personal, they should show me respect, Kraft isn't here, I see him every week, I want to stay...The guy is a nut job. All I care about is he tries to prove to the rest of the league that he can play at a high level and really help us out.
     
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    I would say that Randy Moss' comments were very Poignant except that I don't know what Poignant means. But if they are I think we should give him credit for that.
     
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    What he said was that he hasn't even been approached about signing a new contract and he is frustrated and doesnt feel appreciated because of this
     
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    Yeah, I read the transcript and all I got off it was he was upset about how he was portrayed as slacking when unhappy.  Mostly.  I didn't think it was too bad.  Just trying to say he intended to play, and that he didn't like the stories printed about him after his earlier comments came to light.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Has Randy Moss lost his mind? : Sorry 49 normally I agree with what you are saying but this time I have to disagree. 40 over 4 is about what he's making now on average and is way to long. If this was 07 I'd agree he deserved it but his skills are on the downward slope, he's even admitted it. At this time I wouldn't offer him more then a 2 year @ 15 and I think that's giving him a bonus for past performance.
    Posted by PatsEng[/QUOTE]

    The only time he failed to go for over 1200 yards in New England was when Matt Cassel was his QB. He still puts up top 10 WR stats and if Miles Austin makes 10 million a year, Moss deserves around the same. Hell, a 4 year 30 million dollar deal would be good too, but just lock him up. 
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Has Randy Moss lost his mind? : The only time he failed to go for over 1200 yards in New England was when Matt Cassel was his QB. He still puts up top 10 WR stats and if Miles Austin makes 10 million a year, Moss deserves around the same. Hell, a 4 year 30 million dollar deal would be good too, but just lock him up. 
    Posted by 49Patriots[/QUOTE]

    And Heyward-Bey got a 5yr $38.25 contract. Just because some owners are idiots drastically over paying for some WR's doesn't mean we need to do the same. Lets face it there were a number of games were Brady was trying to force the ball to Randy (including the 07 SB) and it directly affected the game. Last year it even cost us a couple games when they got away from their bread and butter 5-15yrd offense scheme. Randy might have gotten his yards but I think it came at the expense of part of our offense. Now with him losing a step and not getting as much separation as before signing a long term contract and continuing to try to force the ball to him is going to be dangerous. Like I said 2 years maybe a 3rd option is the most I'd offer. Even then I'd give him some good money but I wouldn't make it as high as his last extension. He's just not worth as much as he was last time they extended him and I'm afraid he's going to want more then that
     
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    I think Moss tried to address his being unhappy and he got baited into going further than he expected. No defense of Moss because I don't want to hear about it again, but I think it went from good intentions, to being far too long on the podium with him being backed into a corner.

    He should have made a quick statement and walked off to clear the air that he is committed. He was too ambiguous with his comments.

    Give him a 2 year deal with a 3rd year team option with the idea that if he looks healthy going into the team option year, they'll extend him another so he can be here with BB and Brady through 2014.


     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Has Randy Moss lost his mind? : And Heyward-Bey got a 5yr $38.25 contract. Just because some owners are idiots drastically over paying for some WR's doesn't mean we need to do the same. Lets face it there were a number of games were Brady was trying to force the ball to Randy (including the 07 SB) and it directly affected the game. Last year it even cost us a couple games when they got away from their bread and butter 5-15yrd offense scheme. Randy might have gotten his yards but I think it came at the expense of part of our offense. Now with him losing a step and not getting as much separation as before signing a long term contract and continuing to try to force the ball to him is going to be dangerous. Like I said 2 years maybe a 3rd option is the most I'd offer. Even then I'd give him some good money but I wouldn't make it as high as his last extension. He's just not worth as much as he was last time they extended him and I'm afraid he's going to want more then that
    Posted by PatsEng[/QUOTE]

    Are you just against resigning Moss or do you have a deal mind?
     
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    Moss on a "down hill" slide is still better than 98% of the receivers in the league. Who would you take over him? Andre Johnson, Larry Fitz, and CJ are the only ones that I would definately take over him. Those WR's are game changers. Defenses prepare to shut them down. Randy is one of those people. Other teams prepare to shut Moss down. They don't prepare to shut Brady down, they prepare to take away his weapons. Not many skill players in the league where there is defensive effort to shut you down.

    Sign Randy. He makes Wes Welker as good as he is. We are losing a lot more than just Randy if we don't get him signed.
     
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