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    Now if they go out and get Roth WOW!!! That could be an incredible front 7.                           Warren          Wilfork            Haynesworth                           Cunningham           Mayo            Spikes                Roth
    Posted by PatsEng



    I like this look.
     
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    Good luck with him. As a Redskin fan , which is hard with Napoleon as the owner, it was addition by subtraction for the Skins. Even if he becomes the best D lineman in the league, the Skins had to let this cancer go. If he is not convicted in his assault case, he could make the Pats D line very good. But as a former opponent said of Fat Albert when he signed with the Skins, "He will play a couple of plays, then take himself out, then come back in, fake and injury, recover and go back for  a couple of plays, then out again". This is exaclty what he did the whole time here including before they went to a 3-4.
    Posted by chopin224


    As a Pats fan living in the DC area, this is absolutely an accurate description on Haynesworth...2 plays on 1 play off.  For those that say it's "low risk, high reward", the risk is not just Haynesworth blowing up in camp and getting cut.  The risk is that he'll be a perpetual tease...sometimes being the teams best lineman and sometimes dogging it.  If you think BB should cut Fat Al the minute he starts taking plays off, just cut him this second because the is NO CHANCE that he won't dog it on some plays...it's just he's nature.

    So what can we reasonable expect from Haynesworth?  Maybe a situation player as a 3-4 DE or 4-3 tackle but not a regular player like Wilfork or Warren.  If they rotate him in and out, he'll likely be fresher and play harder for the downs he's in but as a situation player he just can not be a dominant lineman.  Maybe 35-38 tackles and 4 sacks on the high end. 

    Is everyone OK with those production numbers for $5.4m for the season?
     
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    I am ok with it if he is being double teamed when he is out there.  That would keep 1-2 people on Wilfork, and free up the OLB's/ILB's and Ty Warren with 1 on 1.  It isnt just the numbers he gets, it is about the whole defensive unit making more plays, or should I say, stopping plays.
     
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    One reason I'm giving some hope to Haynesworth's having a better attitude: Look at the problems the Skins had with Mcnabb, of all players.  Didn't learn all the plays, refused to wear a wristband with the plays on them....If the Skins' organization and team allowed that from their quarterback, a relatively upstanding guy -- it's no wonder Big Al lacked discipline.
     
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    In Response to Re: HAYNESWORTH traded to NEW ENGLAND... : As a Pats fan living in the DC area, this is absolutely an accurate description on Haynesworth...2 plays on 1 play off.  For those that say it's "low risk, high reward", the risk is not just Haynesworth blowing up in camp and getting cut.  The risk is that he'll be a perpetual tease...sometimes being the teams best lineman and sometimes dogging it.  If you think BB should cut Fat Al the minute he starts taking plays off, just cut him this second because the is NO CHANCE that he won't dog it on some plays...it's just he's nature. So what can we reasonable expect from Haynesworth?  Maybe a situation player as a 3-4 DE or 4-3 tackle but not a regular player like Wilfork or Warren.  If they rotate him in and out, he'll likely be fresher and play harder for the downs he's in but as a situation player he just can not be a dominant lineman.  Maybe 35-38 tackles and 4 sacks on the high end.  Is everyone OK with those production numbers for $5.4m for the season?
    Posted by bobomul



    2 plays on and 1 play off will be fine because this is what they got him for. everybody labels ne as a 3-4 defense but that doesn't mean that they run nothing but a 3-4. it just stats that they hide the rusher in a mix of looks. imagine albert on an end with wilfork in the middle of a 3-4... they would absolutely command a double team each which would open upline backer or coner blitzes from that side. having those two on one line is going to crush the pocket.
    if albert doesn't want to play then he won't. he'll be cut.
    nothing but upside on this move and i loved watching mike greenberg listen to the news of this trade and take a shuddering breath thinking about how he jets running game is going to turn  into a walking game. 
     
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    Some people on here sound like women commenting on Patriot business.

    Albert will be fine or he will go, but what i truly feel is that we will have a strong unstoppable inside pass rush.

    The draft wasn't deep with big outside pass rushers, so BB goes inside "brilliant" 
     
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    Trade not completed?
    Is there a chance Goodell suspends him over Sex charge?
    I have to admit that having him and Merriweather is not great

    Man/Child - the both of them
    Does make me think twice.

    AH is playing for his football life and in 2 yrs FA
    He may behave... but still I like rooting for the good guys

    I guess this is where you root for the laundry and not say
    anything about other teams' problem children

    If we get one of the LB's I will be happy
    I'd rather root for young guys who keep getting better

    I think the D came on in the second half and then got
    killed with injuries to the DLine

    The Pat's are one of the teams that will be lees effected
    by the LO and CBA

     
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    OK, Stroud has now been cut...must have been a physical problem, didn't pass I presume; will Fat Al pass it now?
     
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    We just got him from the Redskins for a 5th Rounder in 2013...what u think of this move??
    Posted by ReeGzUSMC


    I'll take the wait and see approach. Go Pats! 19-0
     
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    Hate it. This guy took off a player's helmet and stomped on his face with his cleats. This guy shouldn't even be playing in the NFL anymore.
    Posted by DarkFenX89


    most of the players and in particular on defense would take you head off in a minute if given the opportunity... its like being in a fight...you fight to win and there are no duschess of queensbury rules... and there are plenty of examples in sports where that kind of behavior has been exhibited...

    do i think it is bad... yes...hopefully being with the class of the nfl will change him...for a while...... hines ward trys to hurt players with every block and he plays regularly.... hines is a dirty player..its not news
     
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    Holy Sh** that's the best news I've ever heard.
     
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    Hmm. Something is screwy here - I can't find the reply button anywhere, so I'll just sum up some things: 1) I'm more than happy to come back and admit I was wrong if that happens to be the case at the end of the year; I don't think it's going to happen because AH will either dog it and get cut, get thrown in the slammer, or do just enough to get by. But I'll own up to it if this does turn out to be another genius BB move. 2) I'm a Skins fan. I've been living in Somerville for 22 years, but I spent 1968-1974 living outside DC watching George Allen's Skins. I've been registered on boston.com for a while but never felt an urge to discuss the Pats here until today. BTW if you want to have more interesting discussions, come to extremesknis.com - all fans are welcome, and it's the largest and best fan board in the NFL (and no I don't work for the Skins). So, no troll. 3) You're right that Snyder is a disaster. The best thing that's happened to the Skins since he's been owner is Bruce Allen and Shanny coming on board. You'll see this offseason that Snyder's Madden strategy of buying every over the hill FA on the market is a thing of the past. Good luck with Dough Boy, and enjoy your team's dominance - it's good to have those memories because one of these days the heyday will end (it did for the Skins, it will for you). Hail. 
    Posted by dtrain1


     Yo dtrain ...
    Just wanted to let you know that there are plenty of real Pats fans on this sight that are actually fairly tolerant of other fans points of views and I sincerely hope you continue to post here .
      It's true that there are a handful of misguided "die-hard" Pats fans that get their panties all in a wad if you so much as suggest that our Pats aren't perfect ...they roll out the TROLL mantra at the first sign of trouble w/o pausing to consider if a valid point might be being made .
       Like any fan sight , we get our share of rival team's bonified TROLLS , who sole purpose is to show up here and stir the pot .
      You're obviously not one of them ...and you're very welcome here .

     NOTE ~ The time to worry about so-called TROLLS , my fellow Pats fans  , is when they STOP showing up here ...
    It will mean the Pats are no longer relevant ( i.e. Losers ).
     
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    Sorry guys, but this trade will not happen. Fat Albert is probably up to 400 pounds. This is actually good for the Pats because he has zero heart and could only play 2 - 3 of plays each game.  
     
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    Low risk high reward. If he can prove that he wants to redeem himself then we could have the best defense in all of football. If not, it cost us 5 million and a 5th round pick. 

    I'm okay with that gamble. 
     
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    Somebody referred to a sexual assault case.  I looked it up.  Apparently Haynesworth got a stripper pregnant.  No sexual assault. 

    Haynesworth has problems with road rage.  He was driving this February when he and a Honda were tailgaiting, cutting each other off, and the other guy flipped him the bird at a red light.  Haynesworth walked over to the other guy, who had recognized him, and Haynesworth yelled, punched the other driver in the nose once and drove away.  What do you mean he's not a nose tackle?  Maybe Meriweather could straighten Haynesworth's rage problems out.  Actually, BB collects a whole bunch of violent players and Haynesworth should fit right into that 12-step group.  

    Basically the guy has a rep as a malcontent and he's violent.  No known drinking issues.

    Big Vince plays defensive end when some huge tackle such as Jake Long needs to be stopped.  Now, either Wilfork or Haynesworth can get that job done, and the other can play nose.
     
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    For a 5th round draft choice, this is a no brainer. Either he'll work out or he wont. The cost is minimal. Maybe he'll restructure his contract.
     
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    Hmm. Something is screwy here - I can't find the reply button anywhere, so I'll just sum up some things: 1) I'm more than happy to come back and admit I was wrong if that happens to be the case at the end of the year; I don't think it's going to happen because AH will either dog it and get cut, get thrown in the slammer, or do just enough to get by. But I'll own up to it if this does turn out to be another genius BB move. 2) I'm a Skins fan. I've been living in Somerville for 22 years, but I spent 1968-1974 living outside DC watching George Allen's Skins. I've been registered on boston.com for a while but never felt an urge to discuss the Pats here until today. BTW if you want to have more interesting discussions, come to extremesknis.com - all fans are welcome, and it's the largest and best fan board in the NFL (and no I don't work for the Skins). So, no troll. 3) You're right that Snyder is a disaster. The best thing that's happened to the Skins since he's been owner is Bruce Allen and Shanny coming on board. You'll see this offseason that Snyder's Madden strategy of buying every over the hill FA on the market is a thing of the past. Good luck with Dough Boy, and enjoy your team's dominance - it's good to have those memories because one of these days the heyday will end (it did for the Skins, it will for you). Hail. 
    Posted by dtrain1


    Yo dtrain ...
    Just wanted to let you know that there are plenty of real Pats fans on this sight that are actually fairly tolerant of other fans points of views and I sincerely hope you continue to post here .
      It's true that there are a handful of misguided "die-hard" Pats fans that get their panties all in a wad if you so much as suggest that our Pats aren't perfect ...they roll out the TROLL mantra at the first sign of trouble w/o pausing to consider if a valid point might be being made .
       Like any fan sight , we get our share of rival team's bonified TROLLS , who sole purpose is to show up here and stir the pot .
      You're obviously not one of them ...and you're very welcome here .

     NOTE ~ The time to worry about so-called TROLLS , my fellow Pats fans  , is when they STOP showing up here ...
    It will mean the Pats are no longer relevant ( i.e. Losers ).
     
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    I'm an "ex-Pat" from Boston living in Nashville. Jeff Fisher, ex-coach of the Titans is probably the most mellow, unflappable and understanding coach in the NFL, and even he could not deal with Haynesworth's, ego, attitude, and refusal at times to get motivated. Add to that Alberts' penchant for getting into an off-field alcohol-fueled rage every now and then....bad combination.

    Structure his deal so that he gets paid only after every game he actually plays in and produces concrete results benefiting the team. Give him his own locker room so that his attitude does not rub off on the team.

    Finally, when it all doesn't work out with Albert, Mr' Kraft should buy the UFC cage fighting organization and put Albert there, where he would be the No. 1 draw and a serious cash cow for that organization. He'd be the Hulk Hogan of UFC for years to come. Rap stars would be writing songs about him. Little kids would look up to him and try to emulate him by bashing in the heads of the kids down the street.

     

     
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    At least he won't be landing on Brady's shoulder this year, lol!
     
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    This could be the biggest boon, or biggest bust. I pray he lives up to his tremendous strenght and potential to bring another championship to Mr. Kraft and company..."You never can have too much pass-rush"...BB stated...I agree and what a force he will be...
     
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    interesting. BB certainly keeps us guessing. he wasn't even on my radar. but i never would have guessed he'd be for a 2013 5th round pick when all of the big $ has been paid.  i think it is a good gamble. we haven't had a DE of his skill level since seymore.  plus what he was upset about the 3-4 was playing NT. we have wilfork so he will be used strictly for rushing the passer, which he was very good at in tennessee. now we have multiple guys offensive coordinators have to plan for.  between wilfork and haynesworth that is 4 guys of the opposing offense tied up.  it should really open up the OLB's to get more sacks. plus sanchise might get a real beating. now if we can just sign roth and/or lawson......
     
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     Ian R. Rapoport 
     
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    You all know BB spoke with Haynesworth FIRST before pulling this trigger.  We'd all wish we were a fly on the wall for that conversation.  I am certain Haynesworth had to "gush" to BB that he will be IN shape, a TEAM player and will ABSOLUTELY contribute to this team to win a couple SBs. 
     
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    Re: HAYNESWORTH traded to NEW ENGLAND...

    So is this deal done? or is the physical the only block to this being finished?
     
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