HAYNESWORTH traded to NEW ENGLAND...

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    If this guy's "tuned-in" watch out! The Patriots will have the best D-line in the game, with Albert Haynesworth, Vince Wilfork, and Ty Warren.
    Posted by DaPrince77


    I agree. Could be one heckuva D-Line this year.
     
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    Why is everyone so worried that Haynesworth doesnt like the 3-4 and that's what the Pats play.  It's just on paper the way BB starts a game.  In actuality they play 4 man fronts more often than 3 man fronts just typically in a nickle package (not a true 4-3).  Given Albert's mentality and conditioning I'm betting he won't even play much on 1st and 2nd downs anyway, so his main role will be just get after the QB on 3rd downs.  That being said, I like the move and think he'll make a big impact but it's a pretty high price tag for what I think will just be a role player.
    Posted by dirty-water


    From what I read most of the money on the big contract has already been paid by the Skins. He gets $5 mil this year. No big deal for a guy who could be a viscous presence on the pass rush, and can be cut if he isn't worth it.
     
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    If he's a nose tackle then why did he refuse to play the nose in D.C.?
     
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    In Response to Re: HAYNESWORTH traded to NEW ENGLAND... :  Yo dtrain ... Just wanted to let you know that there are plenty of real Pats fans on this sight that are actually fairly tolerant of other fans points of views and I sincerely hope you continue to post here .   It's true that there are a handful of misguided "die-hard" Pats fans that get their panties all in a wad if you so much as suggest that our Pats aren't perfect ...they roll out the TROLL mantra at the first sign of trouble w/o pausing to consider if a valid point might be being made .    Like any fan sight , we get our share of rival team's bonified TROLLS , who sole purpose is to show up here and stir the pot .   You're obviously not one of them ...and you're very welcome here .  NOTE ~ The time to worry about so-called TROLLS , my fellow Pats fans  , is when they STOP showing up here ... It will mean the Pats are no longer relevant ( i.e. Losers ).
    Posted by CaptFoxboro


    Thanks Cap'n! We get the same nonsense over at ExtremeSkins - people who've been complaining about not getting rid of Big Boy are now complaining that our FO didn't get enough from you guys. Go figure.

    Anyway, I'm envious of you and your fellow Pats fans. You have a team like the Skins I grew up on. Enjoy it!!!
     
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    At least he won't be landing on Brady's shoulder this year, lol!
    Posted by NY-PATS-FAN4


    Or knee!!!
     
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    This will be a great move if Haynesworth is motivated to play this guy is a force when he shows up.

     
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    Tas = a pats fan with some clarity.
     
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    I'm a bit nervous about this one but if BB can bring the best out of Albert then this is going to be interesting to watch. Especially from the pass rush standpoint.

    To be sure BB doesn't suffer fools.  If Albert gets all primadonna on us BB won't waste any time dumping him. 
     
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    The breast-caress incident didn't get put into Wikipedia because it's still disputed.  A waitress claims that Haynesworth grabbed her.  Haynesworth denies the incident.  He refused to cut a deal with the D.A. for a simple assault conviction.  I'd say that because Haynesworth punched some guy in the nose once and walked away, he possibly also did the second hit-and-run.  Similar M.O.?

    "I could see this sexual assault case being very difficult to prove in a court of law.  According to the police report, the waitress says Haynesworth wanted to pay his bill with his credit card but her hands were full with dishes.  She says the defensive tackle asked her if it would be alright with her if he put the card in the pocket of her blouse. The waitress says he did but started to caress her breast at the same time.  That will be where the case is decided. How long was his hand on her breast? Was it there for a second? Was it there for two seconds? Three seconds? If he put the card in her pocket with his big hands, chances are he would touch her breast whether he wanted to or not.  How tight were her blouse? How big are her breasts?  Haynesworth knows how to stay in trouble.  According to the waitress the entire incident happened at about 1:30am on Sunday morning."

    http://gcobb.com/2011/02/14/haynesworth-accused-of-caressing-breast-of-waitress/
     
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    here's one way that this deal would surely help (assuming he's healthy and wlling)...

    NWE got burned many times on third and long, over the last couple of years. I don't have hard data, but my observation is that, on those situations, BB used a lot of 3-man rushes. Unfortunately, NWE does not have a 3-man rush strong enough to put pressure quickly on the QB. The QB ends up having all day to wait until coerage breaks down.

    That equation changes with VW and AH on that 3-man rush. I expect them to be more effective on third downs.
     
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    In Response to Re: HAYNESWORTH traded to NEW ENGLAND... : You may wish to consider in your assessment of his chances of working out in NE that the Skins are a team somewhat in disarray, and the Pats are not. Also, AH seems a stubborn fellow and using him in a role he does not feel he can play his best game in is apt to bring out that bad side. He won't be used consistently as a NT in NE.
    Posted by BabeParilli


    I've considered those things.

    When AH was brought in, the Skins were a disaster, being run by "GM" Vinny Cerrato with puppet strings handled by Dan Snyder. Under Jim Zorn AH loafed and despite playing in his usual position, he rebelled against DC Greg Blache, basically saying he knew better and couldn't tolerate the D system as it stood.

    So, even when the intent is to make him happy and use him right, he doesn't often cooperate. During 2009 we saw more of Al leaving the field on a cart or behind an oxygen mask than we did on the field.

    It could change, especially since the Pats are a contender and the Skins clearly haven't been for some time but I wouldn't bet on him even passing the conditioning test.




     
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    MsCheat there is a big difference between holding a higher standard for your team and not caring about standards at all.

    When most of your team is full of high character guys you can afford to have a couple of low character guys and not greatly affect the team. I hope most Pats fans wouldn't say we only have high character guys because well we don't but you can say we only have a handful of trouble makers. Which I can say there are only a few teams in the league that can claim only a couple of people they picked up have off-field issues.

    Matter a fact the Jets use to be known to be full of low character guys but have recently started to trend to higher character guys which I commend them for and I think it's really showing in their locker room and on the field.

    For a team on the complete opposite end of the spectrum look at Cinn who seems to like to collect low character guys.
     
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    I'm a Patriots fan living in Washington DC and Haynesworth was nothing but trouble for the Redskins - bad for the team, big ego, lots of complaining and no performing - I hope Belichick can turn him around but I don't think he is worth it.
     
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    When you talk about how BB D's generate pass rush do not forget that there are schemes that sometimes involve the secondary. Guys like Rodney Harrison used to be used that way not too infrequently. Chung is actually excellent in that role. I expect a big season from Chung. In fact, he might end up being the big playmaker in the secondary this year. I also wonder how well a bigger CB like Dowling might be coming from the corner...

    I am keen to see if Moore or rookie Markell Carter start to catch on. If Moore I would expect to see him start to perform well in the role around games 6-12. If Carter maybe game 12-16 but more likely not till next fall.

    I do wonder if a raw talent at OLB (such as above) or just a fair pass rush talent is put outside Haynesworth whether it might significantly improve their effectiveness due to double teams on Haynesworth.
     
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    I cant believe some of you dont love this move! Sure Big Al has a rep as a malcontent, but so did Corey Dillon and Randy Moss. You really think that Big Vince, Ty Warren, or even Tom Brady or is gonna let Albert come in here and upset the locker room?! No way. Vince got too much invested in this team and takes pride in being a Captain! Now can you imagine any team having 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1 trying to run on this D-line!!! Can anyone name a DL that Albert played with in Washington? Thats why he hated it there, he was on the nose getting doubled and triple teamed every play. Albert Haynesworth has never played with another D-lineman as talented as Vince. I bet they push each other to new heights!
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    Funny thing is, a week ago no one would want him on this team or claim to like him or anything like that. But now that he is coming to NE its all sunshine and rainbows. I will like him when he gives me a reason to like him till then I really dont like this guy on the team. I like the talent he brings but he is a lazy entitled dirt bag.
    Posted by MVPkilla4life


    The reason for this is because EVERYONE knows the potential of this guy.  In 2007-8 he was the most dominant DL in the league period and worked his way into a 100 Million contract.  Then he went to a crap team and they asked him to play a position he wasn't comfortable with, and he hung up his spurs and mentally checked out.  Very reminisent of Moss in Oakland I might add.  Now he's with a team that has a track record of turning around high talent malconents.  One of maybe 3 teams that could possibly turn this guy around and put him back on track, thus a lot of NFL analysts are excited, as well as the locals. 


     
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    Seymour got 8 sacks twice  while playing for the Pats strickly as a 34 DE.  If Haynesworth looks at that and the fact that the Patriots defense played 54% in a 43 nickle were he will pass the rusher, then it is easy to see he should have double digit sacks for Patriots next year.

    Everything I wrote is fact.  He should see his personal stats rise from Washington.  Like playing for BB and a Tom Brady led offense.  He is on a 14-2 winning team.  

    Mark my words.  He sees more than a light at the end of the tunnel.  He sees success.

    He will rejuvinate his career and let the league know that he is a top 5 D Linemen.  

    Wright    Haynesworth    Wilfork    Cunningham    -    You scared yet?

    No?  The how about this.,


    Warren    Wilfork    Haynesworth.


    Bodden is back teaming with McCourty.


    Our D will be a force again. 
     
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    This is an AWSOME trade for the Pats. Haynsworth and Wilford in the middle. You will need 4 guys to block them. Meaning the LB's will be able to rush in alot easier on Blitzs and other cover shemes. Haynsworth will not be a cancer. WHEN he signed with the Redskins. He was told as part of his contract that they would play thw same defense the titans had. That changed when Shanahan became the coach. Thats the reason why I think he was a canceer. BB has no problem in showing him the door if he becomes a pain in the neck. Plus playing for a winner sometimes changes a players attitude. Look at Moss, Dillion. They were considered cancers by their temas until they came here. Dillion worked out very well as did Moss. Then when Moss wasnt working well. BB got ri of him. Problem solved. Welcome to NE Haynsworth.
     
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    the dude is lazy and quits on most plays however the pats gave up noting for him so I like the move.
     
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    Outstanding move!  There's really no risk.  If his punk ways surface than he's gone.  Locker room cancers don't last in New England.  Nothing to worry about folks.  And if he's on board... Look out!  What a d-line!!
     
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    In Response to Re: HAYNESWORTH traded to NEW ENGLAND... : Thanks Cap'n! We get the same nonsense over at ExtremeSkins - people who've been complaining about not getting rid of Big Boy are now complaining that our FO didn't get enough from you guys. Go figure. Anyway, I'm envious of you and your fellow Pats fans. You have a team like the Skins I grew up on. Enjoy it!!!
    Posted by dtrain1


    More than welcome dtrain.
      Jurgenson / Kilmer / Theisman / Williams ...long history of field generals gettin' it done down in DC . Shanahan will eventually find one that suits his style and lead you guys back to prominance . At any rate , this is a rebuilding year for the 'Skins and gettin' rid of Albert was obviously a must . If Cullen Jenkins comes onboard as planned your team will be right back on track . Best wishes.
     
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