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HAYNESWORTH traded to NEW ENGLAND...

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    Somebody referred to a sexual assault case.  I looked it up.  Apparently Haynesworth got a stripper pregnant.  No sexual assault.  Haynesworth has problems with road rage.  He was driving this February when he and a Honda were tailgaiting, cutting each other off, and the other guy flipped him the bird at a red light.  Haynesworth walked over to the other guy, who had recognized him, and Haynesworth yelled, punched the other driver in the nose once and drove away.  What do you mean he's not a nose tackle?  Maybe Meriweather could straighten Haynesworth's rage problems out.  Actually, BB collects a whole bunch of violent players and Haynesworth should fit right into that 12-step group.   Basically the guy has a rep as a malcontent and he's violent.  No known drinking issues. Big Vince plays defensive end when some huge tackle such as Jake Long needs to be stopped.  Now, either Wilfork or Haynesworth can get that job done, and the other can play nose.
    Posted by Paul_K


    No there is an assault case stemming from an incident with a waitress at the W Hotel in DC last February. Whether it amounts to anything at trial is another story.

    There is no way around the fact that Fat Albert is a head case.
     
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    [QUOTE]I'm an "ex-Pat" from Boston living in Nashville. Jeff Fisher, ex-coach of the Titans is probably the most mellow, unflappable and understanding coach in the NFL


    I'm going to forward this to Rodney Harrison...
     
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    You all know BB spoke with Haynesworth FIRST before pulling this trigger.  We'd all wish we were a fly on the wall for that conversation.  I am certain Haynesworth had to "gush" to BB that he will be IN shape, a TEAM player and will ABSOLUTELY contribute to this team to win a couple SBs. 
    Posted by agcsbill


    BINGO.

    Does anyone here really think that BB made this deal without talking to Haynesworth first (with Shanahan's permission, of course)?

    He did the same thing with Moss in 2007 and basically told him: "Randy, this isn't Minnesota, or Oakland; we do things differently here. Can you handle it?"

    Trust me folks....BB would not have made this trade if Haynesworth didn't at least give him "lip service" about embracing the Patriot Way.

    If it turns out that that's all he gave him--lip service--then he'll be cut and the Pats will be out a low draft pick.

    If it turns out that Big Al was telling BB the truth, then I pity opposing offensive lines in 2011.
     
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    The only thing keeping Albert from being one of the top 3 D lineman in the league is Albert.  He has the potential to completely change our D from soft and squishy to nightmare inducing.  But that's up to Albert, and only time will tell if he will want to buy in with the Pats and truly commit himself.  So in essence this is one of the most high reward/low risk deals in NFL history, because if it doesn't work out all that is lost is 5 mil and a 5th rounder.  Significant surely, but not when you compare to what you have the potential to be gaining. 
     
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    Hmm. Something is screwy here - I can't find the reply button anywhere, so I'll just sum up some things: 1) I'm more than happy to come back and admit I was wrong if that happens to be the case at the end of the year; I don't think it's going to happen because AH will either dog it and get cut, get thrown in the slammer, or do just enough to get by. But I'll own up to it if this does turn out to be another genius BB move. 2) I'm a Skins fan. I've been living in Somerville for 22 years, but I spent 1968-1974 living outside DC watching George Allen's Skins. I've been registered on boston.com for a while but never felt an urge to discuss the Pats here until today. BTW if you want to have more interesting discussions, come to extremesknis.com - all fans are welcome, and it's the largest and best fan board in the NFL (and no I don't work for the Skins). So, no troll. 3) You're right that Snyder is a disaster. The best thing that's happened to the Skins since he's been owner is Bruce Allen and Shanny coming on board. You'll see this offseason that Snyder's Madden strategy of buying every over the hill FA on the market is a thing of the past. Good luck with Dough Boy, and enjoy your team's dominance - it's good to have those memories because one of these days the heyday will end (it did for the Skins, it will for you). Hail. 
    Posted by dtrain1


    You may wish to consider in your assessment of his chances of working out in NE that the Skins are a team somewhat in disarray, and the Pats are not. Also, AH seems a stubborn fellow and using him in a role he does not feel he can play his best game in is apt to bring out that bad side. He won't be used consistently as a NT in NE.
     
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    When I first heard of this I was a little skeptical due to the fact we play the 3-4, his obvious personal and playing problems, and we already have Vince but the more I consider it the more I like it. 
    Obviously, BB gets the best of players like Haynesworth so I am optimistic he won't be a distraction plus as Reiss pointed out he will get paid serious money if this is a good year for him.  I also know he will design plays that brings out the best in Haynesworth as long as he plays the way we hope or he'll be gone.
    So what impression does this have now? I know that if it works out we have the best two Noseguard/ D-Linemen in the game and will just be amazing to watch them tear it up.  I know I am one of many that has blind faith in BB but he has more than proved these moves pay off for the most part!
     
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    NY-Pats-fan - you said what I was thinking which is that if Myra Kraft was alive, this might not have happened.  If I had said it first, I would have been villified.  I still may be, but I thought the same thing.
    Posted by UD6


    It's a fair point but she was here when we picked up OL Ojinnaka last year and he was on the hook for assaulting his wife/girlfriend too. She didn't stop that move so I guess they do their background check to see what actually happened with each situation.
     
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    Great addition. Ideal 3-4 DE for the Pats system (as long as he buys into what BB, the Pats players, and staff are selling). I've wanted him for this role for years.
     
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    Excellent pick...Awesome pick...Wonderful pick for 5th rounder

    The Big Guy will be coached well, and brings relief in the middle.

    Big Albert hey hey hey!!! 
     
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     Christopher Price 
     
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    Why is everyone so worried that Haynesworth doesnt like the 3-4 and that's what the Pats play.  It's just on paper the way BB starts a game.  In actuality they play 4 man fronts more often than 3 man fronts just typically in a nickle package (not a true 4-3).  Given Albert's mentality and conditioning I'm betting he won't even play much on 1st and 2nd downs anyway, so his main role will be just get after the QB on 3rd downs.  That being said, I like the move and think he'll make a big impact but it's a pretty high price tag for what I think will just be a role player.
     
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    Really?  That's a strange one to me.  He's a nose tackle and we already got a good one.  Of course, Wilfork has been playing DE too . . . or maybe a 4-3 is in the works (solves the OLB problem--but do we have penetrators at DE?). Not sure about this one.  Haynesworth has a checkered past . . . of course, BB has a way with guys like that. 
    Posted by prolate0spheroid

     
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    He's a DT in a 43 who doesn't want to be a NT in a 34. We already have the best 34 NT in the game. Haynesworth is a locker room cancer. I don't think I believe this one
    Posted by PatsEng


    AGREED!
    This is going to end badly. Besides crying like a baby to the media last year about how the Redskin defense wasn't suited to his strengths, stomping on defenseless player's heads ON the field and a plethora of off-field red flags and infractions i can't see how this works at all. We were all so proud when the Patriots turned their moralistic backs to Christian Peters so many years ago...what has changed? What would Mayra Kraft make of this?
     
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    In Response to Re: HAYNESWORTH traded to NEW ENGLAND... : Well, he's mostly played 4-3 tackle (and resisted being moved to NT in Washington) -- but I guess you're right that in NE's 3-4 he's most likely to play DE, not NT.  From what I've seen, Haynesworth likes to be able to penetrate and get to the QB.  I think he'll be asked to do that a lot in our defense, which I imagine is going to be pretty protean this year . . . not really a pure 3-4 or 4-3.  
    Posted by prolate0spheroid


    That's precisely it. He did not and does not want to play NT, but perhaps willing to play Seymour's role at DE for their base 3-4 or 2nd DT in a 4-3. It did not work in Wash because they do not have a Wilfork who is the NT.

    I expect more of the 4-3 this year. The shortened off-season gave BB no time to teach his complex 3-4. The D could mess it up easily on a constant basis. Better to have a simpler D that ensures consistent pressure up front for back up.

    Also, can't they play 4-3 like a 3-4? Basically, they could have their regular three DLMen lined up as they almost would normally do, then have AH "roam" in various spots on the line to create the huge mismatches. He could line up with his hand down or, if willing, standing up.
     
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    Now we know why the pats didn't draft a pass rusher. The best one in the league was sitting in the doghouse in Washington because the dufus Shanahan didn't know what to do with him.

    A guy like this....you let him do whatever he wants. He's one of those disruptive ball players. Let him disrupt....the other team. Now we can forget about Tully Banta-Cain.
     
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    Albert Haynesworth runs kind of slow
    And his energy level is low.
    He's a little bit fat
    Maybe Bill will fix that?
    Will the Redskins miss him? No.

    Albert Haynesworth likes to get paid
    For games that he never played
    Bellichik must find
    And kick his behind
    A target both large and staid.

    I wouldn't say Albert is crazy
    But his motivation is hazy
    He has cramps and headaches
    And Injuries he fakes
    He might be a little bit lazy.
     
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    Why is everyone so worried that Haynesworth doesnt like the 3-4 and that's what the Pats play.  It's just on paper the way BB starts a game.  In actuality they play 4 man fronts more often than 3 man fronts just typically in a nickle package (not a true 4-3).  Given Albert's mentality and conditioning I'm betting he won't even play much on 1st and 2nd downs anyway, so his main role will be just get after the QB on 3rd downs.  That being said, I like the move and think he'll make a big impact but it's a pretty high price tag for what I think will just be a role player.
    Posted by dirty-water


    From what I read most of the money on the big contract has already been paid by the Skins. He gets $5 mil this year. No big deal for a guy who could be a viscous presence on the pass rush, and can be cut if he isn't worth it.
     
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    If he's a nose tackle then why did he refuse to play the nose in D.C.?
     
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    In Response to Re: HAYNESWORTH traded to NEW ENGLAND... :  Yo dtrain ... Just wanted to let you know that there are plenty of real Pats fans on this sight that are actually fairly tolerant of other fans points of views and I sincerely hope you continue to post here .   It's true that there are a handful of misguided "die-hard" Pats fans that get their panties all in a wad if you so much as suggest that our Pats aren't perfect ...they roll out the TROLL mantra at the first sign of trouble w/o pausing to consider if a valid point might be being made .    Like any fan sight , we get our share of rival team's bonified TROLLS , who sole purpose is to show up here and stir the pot .   You're obviously not one of them ...and you're very welcome here .  NOTE ~ The time to worry about so-called TROLLS , my fellow Pats fans  , is when they STOP showing up here ... It will mean the Pats are no longer relevant ( i.e. Losers ).
    Posted by CaptFoxboro


    Thanks Cap'n! We get the same nonsense over at ExtremeSkins - people who've been complaining about not getting rid of Big Boy are now complaining that our FO didn't get enough from you guys. Go figure.

    Anyway, I'm envious of you and your fellow Pats fans. You have a team like the Skins I grew up on. Enjoy it!!!
     
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    At least he won't be landing on Brady's shoulder this year, lol!
    Posted by NY-PATS-FAN4


    Or knee!!!
     
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