Hear JAllen

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    Hear JAllen

    Is taking a visit here along with visiting 4 other teams. Definitely not returning to Minny, he is looking forward to moving on and gauging his value in free agency

     
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    Would love to see him in a Pats uni.

     
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    Would love to see him in a Pats uni.



    Me too. But they have to make him a very good offer. If they low ball him and give him the ring s..t ! He will be out the door as fast as he came in. It has nothing to do with being negative it's the reality of the NFL these days.

     
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    Allen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nink

     

    i hope he teaches Chandler how to beat a double.

     
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    Allen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nink

     

    i hope he teaches Chandler how to beat a double.



    +1

    but true is gonna give us that PFF rating that claims Nink is god vs. the run

    but next season we will have Hightower and MAyo as run stoppers so the DL can worry about their real job- PASS RUSH

     
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    I'll get excited when and if he signs.

     
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    I'll get excited when and if he signs.



    +1

    But in order for him to sign here, he's got to visit...so step 1 can't hurt!

     
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    He is #1 on my realistic FA wish list!  I really hope this works out.

     
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    I hope they can make it happen. He would help the pass rush and take some pressure off Jones and Nink.

     
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    How old is he now? I like him - wish we traded for him two years ago - I love the way he battles through blocks to get to the QB. I'd like to see him here. We run so many different fronts I think he would fit in here fine....can't picture Mannning sitting back there comfortable with him and Chandler coming off the edge.

     
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    In response to joepatsfan111111's comment:

    In response to 49Patriots' comment:

     

    Allen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nink

     

    i hope he teaches Chandler how to beat a double.

     



    +1

     

    but true is gonna give us that PFF rating that claims Nink is god vs. the run

    but next season we will have Hightower and MAyo as run stoppers so the DL can worry about their real job- PASS RUSH



    Lol, actually claiming something to be, is different then if it actually is. For example, some fktards could CLAIM the Patriots are only good because of Tom Brady. Other fktards could claim Tom Brady is the root of all our problems. Neither is true, it is just a proclamation without merit. Stating a player had the best rating against the run for all DE's in the last 5 years is a fact.

     

     
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    Lol, actually claiming something to be, is different then if it actually is. For example, some fktards could CLAIM the Patriots are only good because of Tom Brady. Other fktards could claim Tom Brady is the root of all our problems. Neither is true, it is just a proclamation without merit. Stating a player had the best rating against the run for all DE's in the last 5 years is a fact.

     



    you're right it is a fact. but the pass rush doesnt produce and I think you cannot deny Allen would be a better rusher than Nink. thats all. I like Nink, he's a good player but he and Chandler are overused with no sub DEs and Allen would take a ton of pressure off the two to produce.

    also agree that brady doesnt totally carry us nor cause all our problems.

     
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    In response to TrueChamp's comment:

    In response to joepatsfan111111's comment:

    In response to 49Patriots' comment:

     

    Allen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nink

     

    i hope he teaches Chandler how to beat a double.

     



    +1

     

    but true is gonna give us that PFF rating that claims Nink is god vs. the run

    but next season we will have Hightower and MAyo as run stoppers so the DL can worry about their real job- PASS RUSH



    Lol, actually claiming something to be, is different then if it actually is. For example, some fktards could CLAIM the Patriots are only good because of Tom Brady. Other fktards could claim Tom Brady is the root of all our problems. Neither is true, it is just a proclamation without merit. Stating a player had the best rating against the run for all DE's in the last 5 years is a fact.

     




    You're absolutely right truechamp, it's not all on one guy, it's on all these guys..

     

     

    Jonathan Fanene

     Albert Heynesworth

     Trevor Scott

     Shaun Ellis

     Ron Brace

     Armstead

     Tomy Kelly

     Mike Wright

     Myron Pryor

    Tully Banta Cain

     Adalious Thomas

     Burgess

    Stallworth (psrt two)

     Gaffney (part two)

     Gozalez

     Brandon Tate

     Price

     Ocho Cinco

     Lloyd

     Amendola

     Torry Holt

     Joey Galloway

     Jenkins

    Schiancoe

     Fells

     Hernandez

    Leigh Bodden

     Shawn Springs

     Delta O’Neil

     Adrian Wilson

     Tavon Wilson

     Butler

     Wheatley

     Whilite

     Rasi Dowling

     McGowen

     Jon Lynch

     Steven Gregory

    Fred Taylor

     Joseph Addai

    Robert Gallery

    Leon Washington

     ^^^^^^^Could you give us the ratings from that stupid website you call the bible, on all these guys? Could you do that for us truechamp?

    I could walk into a taco bell and have a 15 year old kid throw darts at random free agent names blind folded, and it would turn out better than that pile of hot garbage listed above. That is the honest to God's truth.

     
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    Lol, actually claiming something to be, is different then if it actually is. For example, some fktards could CLAIM the Patriots are only good because of Tom Brady. Other fktards could claim Tom Brady is the root of all our problems. Neither is true, it is just a proclamation without merit. Stating a player had the best rating against the run for all DE's in the last 5 years is a fact.

     



    you're right it is a fact. but the pass rush doesnt produce and I think you cannot deny Allen would be a better rusher than Nink. thats all. I like Nink, he's a good player but he and Chandler are overused with no sub DEs and Allen would take a ton of pressure off the two to produce.

    also agree that brady doesnt totally carry us nor cause all our problems.



    Agree 100%. Really wish BB had signed Big John Abraham last year, it would have been a perfect fit and he was in our house but no deal reached. 10 sacks or so as a situational pass rusher last year = perfect.

     
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    Agree 100%. Really wish BB had signed Big John Abraham last year, it would have been a perfect fit and he was in our house but no deal reached. 10 sacks or so as a situational pass rusher last year = perfect.



    yes same. I really thought Abe would be a Pat last year and jsut never happened sadly.

    Hopefully BB brings in someone whether its Allen or Tuck, just someone of that nature to help out a ton

     
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    I wonder, in the Pats system I always thought the DL's first responsibility was run stuffing. Not pass rushing. The Pats have also been a read and react type of D along the line which ,to me, is the polar opposite of a penetrating, gap shooting, pass rush first D. Anybody care to comment?

     
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    In response to mthurl's comment:

    In response to TrueChamp's comment:

     

    In response to joepatsfan111111's comment:

    In response to 49Patriots' comment:

     

    Allen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nink

     

    i hope he teaches Chandler how to beat a double.

     

     



    +1

     

     

    but true is gonna give us that PFF rating that claims Nink is god vs. the run

    but next season we will have Hightower and MAyo as run stoppers so the DL can worry about their real job- PASS RUSH



    Lol, actually claiming something to be, is different then if it actually is. For example, some fktards could CLAIM the Patriots are only good because of Tom Brady. Other fktards could claim Tom Brady is the root of all our problems. Neither is true, it is just a proclamation without merit. Stating a player had the best rating against the run for all DE's in the last 5 years is a fact.

     




    You're absolutely right truechamp, it's not all on one guy, it's on all these guys..

     

     

    Jonathan Fanene

     Albert Heynesworth

     Trevor Scott

     Shaun Ellis

     Ron Brace

     Armstead

     Tomy Kelly

     Mike Wright

     Myron Pryor

    Tully Banta Cain

     Adalious Thomas

     Burgess

    Stallworth (psrt two)

     Gaffney (part two)

     Gozalez

     Brandon Tate

     Price

     Ocho Cinco

     Lloyd

     Amendola

     Torry Holt

     Joey Galloway

     Jenkins

    Schiancoe

     Fells

     Hernandez

    Leigh Bodden

     Shawn Springs

     Delta O’Neil

     Adrian Wilson

     Tavon Wilson

     Butler

     Wheatley

     Whilite

     Rasi Dowling

     McGowen

     Jon Lynch

     Steven Gregory

    Fred Taylor

     Joseph Addai

    Robert Gallery

    Leon Washington

     ^^^^^^^Could you give us the ratings from that stupid website you call the bible, on all these guys? Could you do that for us truechamp?

    I could walk into a taco bell and have a 15 year old kid throw darts at random free agent names blind folded, and it would turn out better than that pile of hot garbage listed above. That is the honest to God's truth.




    I think this shows the reason the Pats have not won more Rings during Toms reign in NE. Very nice listing BTW. I like BB as a game coach but his drafting and free agent signings have been average if not downright bad! Sometimes you can be too smart for your own good and allow EGO to get in the way--BB needed and still does a person whos strenthg is evaluating talent! I for one am tired of thes older past their prime free agents and also trading DOWN to aquire more 3rd, 4th round picks where the talent drops off!

     
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    This thread should be titled The anyone but Dink thread.  Our blood lust for a REAL DE is a direct result of that shlub doing absolutly nothing in any game that actually mattered.  Hopefully people out there are starting to catch up with me on this one.

     
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    You're absolutely right truechamp, it's not all on one guy, it's on all these guys..

     

     

    Jonathan Fanene

     Albert Heynesworth

     Trevor Scott

     Shaun Ellis

     Ron Brace

     Armstead

     Tomy Kelly

     Mike Wright

     Myron Pryor

    Tully Banta Cain

     Adalious Thomas

     Burgess

    Stallworth (psrt two)

     Gaffney (part two)

     Gozalez

     Brandon Tate

     Price

     Ocho Cinco

     Lloyd

     Amendola

     Torry Holt

     Joey Galloway

     Jenkins

    Schiancoe

     Fells

     Hernandez

    Leigh Bodden

     Shawn Springs

     Delta O’Neil

     Adrian Wilson

     Tavon Wilson

     Butler

     Wheatley

     Whilite

     Rasi Dowling

     McGowen

     Jon Lynch

     Steven Gregory

    Fred Taylor

     Joseph Addai

    Robert Gallery

    Leon Washington

     ^^^^^^^Could you give us the ratings from that stupid website you call the bible, on all these guys? Could you do that for us truechamp?

    I could walk into a taco bell and have a 15 year old kid throw darts at random free agent names blind folded, and it would turn out better than that pile of hot garbage listed above. That is the honest to God's truth.



    Delta O'Neil, I just got douchechills. Then again he still plays for us under the alias Arrington.

     
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    I wonder, in the Pats system I always thought the DL's first responsibility was run stuffing. Not pass rushing. The Pats have also been a read and react type of D along the line which ,to me, is the polar opposite of a penetrating, gap shooting, pass rush first D. Anybody care to comment?



    You are 1000% correct

    thats why Allen or anyone like him has to accept a role as a sub player with a salary reflecting this role

     
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    IMO, VW (at his best) basically accomplishes both run stuffing and pocket collapsing.  He, however, is the exception to the BB mold.

     
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    I wonder, in the Pats system I always thought the DL's first responsibility was run stuffing. Not pass rushing. The Pats have also been a read and react type of D along the line which ,to me, is the polar opposite of a penetrating, gap shooting, pass rush first D. Anybody care to comment?



    Yes.  But when teams pass nearly 60% of the time and the key to sustaining drives is being able to execute an efficient passing game with a decent completion rate, few sacks, and good average yardage per pass play, you have to wonder about the old-fashioned "run first" defense.  You need run stuffers for sure, but you also need a defense that can disrupt the passing game. 

    I think a "read and react" defense can still work, but I also think you need the ability to attack a bit nowadays and maybe the Pats haven't emphasized pressure enough.  In the AFC Championship game this year, the lack of ability to get any pressure at all on Manning was a serious problem for the Pats.  The contrast between what the Pats' D line did and what Seattle's did was obvious if you watched the two games.  Having guys like Clemons and Avril and Bennett who can attack and get pressure effectively really makes a difference.

     
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    You're absolutely right truechamp, it's not all on one guy, it's on all these guys..

     Jonathan Fanene

     Albert Heynesworth

     Trevor Scott

     Shaun Ellis

     Ron Brace

     Armstead

     Tomy Kelly

     Mike Wright

     Myron Pryor

    Tully Banta Cain

     Adalious Thomas

     Burgess

    Stallworth (psrt two)

     Gaffney (part two)

     Gozalez

     Brandon Tate

     Price

     Ocho Cinco

     Lloyd

     Amendola

     Torry Holt

     Joey Galloway

     Jenkins

    Schiancoe

     Fells

     Hernandez

    Leigh Bodden

     Shawn Springs

     Delta O’Neil

     Adrian Wilson

     Tavon Wilson

     Butler

     Wheatley

     Whilite

     Rasi Dowling

     McGowen

     Jon Lynch

     Steven Gregory

    Fred Taylor

     Joseph Addai

    Robert Gallery

    Leon Washington

     ^^^^^^^Could you give us the ratings from that stupid website you call the bible, on all these guys? Could you do that for us truechamp?

    I could walk into a taco bell and have a 15 year old kid throw darts at random free agent names blind folded, and it would turn out better than that pile of hot garbage listed above. That is the honest to God's truth.



    The honest to Gods truth is that you listed several draft picks along with your list of free agent busts. Either educate yourself on how a player came to New England or stop fabricating stuff to make your point!

     
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    You're absolutely right truechamp, it's not all on one guy, it's on all these guys..

     Jonathan Fanene

     Albert Heynesworth

     Trevor Scott

     Shaun Ellis

     Ron Brace

     Armstead

     Tomy Kelly

     Mike Wright

     Myron Pryor

    Tully Banta Cain

     Adalious Thomas

     Burgess

    Stallworth (psrt two)

     Gaffney (part two)

     Gozalez

     Brandon Tate

     Price

     Ocho Cinco

     Lloyd

     Amendola

     Torry Holt

     Joey Galloway

     Jenkins

    Schiancoe

     Fells

     Hernandez

    Leigh Bodden

     Shawn Springs

     Delta O’Neil

     Adrian Wilson

     Tavon Wilson

     Butler

     Wheatley

     Whilite

     Rasi Dowling

     McGowen

     Jon Lynch

     Steven Gregory

    Fred Taylor

     Joseph Addai

    Robert Gallery

    Leon Washington

     ^^^^^^^Could you give us the ratings from that stupid website you call the bible, on all these guys? Could you do that for us truechamp?

    I could walk into a taco bell and have a 15 year old kid throw darts at random free agent names blind folded, and it would turn out better than that pile of hot garbage listed above. That is the honest to God's truth.



    The honest to Gods truth is that you listed several draft picks along with your list of free agent busts. Either educate yourself on how a player came to New England or stop fabricating stuff to make your point!



    Ever wish you had the Comments from here prior to the drafts to see what was said about these draftees and who said them.  Bet they were not all negative until they were released.

    just thinking. Lol

     
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    Given the Pats D, in spite of the spate of injuries that plagued it last season, kept its head above water for the most part be attractive to Allen?  Could Allen see this in the D and with a healthy group in 2014, plus his being part of it, give him an excellent chance at a SB ring?  Could that be the tipping point to him being a Patriot in 2014? 

     
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