Re: How can you not love this draft?
posted at 4/26/2010 6:43 PM EDT
In Response to Re: How can you not love this draft?
Hey Rus (Is that an homage to that nerdy kid from Recess?), say what you want but the Pats biggest need was getting a guy who created a pass-rush. The Pats didn't get one. Don't tell me about Cunningham, he is a Tebow LB. God, what are we, the Gators of the NFL? I already know you're going to say "wait till June 1st for the roster cuts" and I'm waiting. But everyone, except Belichick, knows the value of a good pass-rusher. I seriously doubt anyone that can create a pass-rush for our defense gets cut. This draft is a C, I like the talent, but do the picks make us Superbowl contenders next year? HELL NO! So keep drinking the Kool-aid, but when Belichick's defense is dominant, Belichick has a pass-rush. He has five rings, 3 with NE, 2 with NY. He had McGinest in NE, and LT in NY. Who does he have now?
Posted by 49Patriots
Since I see you didn't read Laz's responses in his Post...YOU need to read this & understand, what the rest of us are seeing...it's NOT drinking the cool-aid, it's understanding the philosophy that IS coming back to NE!
"In Response to Re: 2010 Patriots Draft=BEST New England Draft in 5 years...bare minimum & bar none :
russ and ALL : I was busy earlier and couldn't get to read any but the first few posts on page 1, But I gotta say, Your posts in this thread have been sound, reasonable, informed, and just sorta cool-headed in a way lol...excellent insights here man, no doubt . ~ I really came away thinking very similiar thoughts about how Bill Belichick is harkening back to what worked in the past during our championship runs . Whether it be in a Draft, How you CANNOT sell short player skill and draft purely for great intangibles, and come away as a coach thinking that your scheme is 1000 times superior to any good skilled players... Yet russ , you enlightened me as to what else it looks like Belichcik is doing with these guys, i.e. MORE things that worked well in the past... RE : Offense - Hernandez first...it was either Nick or you who had a good post about how Hernandez will not be seen much as a standard TE lined up at the LOS beside tackle...Excellent Point. And you're right, either as some H-Back/#2 WR OR a hybrid of both, THIS does equal some matchup nightmare for Big enough, but slow LBs, and/or fast enough, but too small CBs and even some safeties. And onto Gronkowski...A sick blocker just like Graham was for us, and just 10 times the better pass-catcher than Graham was...heck, he'll be 10 times the better pass-catcher than Watson, who was the poor blocker, but whom had hands of stone AND bad route-trees. So keep in mind THESE things about Gronkowski and Hernandez as its taken with the other post either you or Nick did, about how Taylor Price looks something like a hard-chargin' Branch/Givens of the past, BOTH places me at ease and Makes Me Conclude The Following: ~ STUFF THAT WORKED DURING NE'S CHAMPION TEAMS : Ball-control offense, Far less singular in skill-set players = An Offense that CONTROLLED the game... BOTH with the ball-control, long drives that simply wear out a D and the gameclock, AND far more importantly than even that, VERSATILITY. No singular draftees like a wideout who's a blazer, but runs bad routes, OR a TE who's a good blocker, but an awful pass-catcher, or vice-versa... Bill Belichick, by drafting very versatile players with NO UNreal skill-set in 1 single aspect of their gameplay, INSTEAD selected players with NO real WEAKNESSES in their skill-set. Now, that don't make for a big "Wow" factor in NOT selecting the guys like 6'3 225lb 4.4 40 running Taylor Mays (but he cannot read an offensive play for jack-sh^t), BUT what it DOES do- Is Win Games. Your team AND players (system & personell), Is now the one who can game-plan for the OTHER team. By NOT selecting that totally unbelievable in 1 aspect of their skills (but completely lacking in another), Belichick targeted guys with NO weak aspect in their game skills, And THIS means you have the versatile player and playmakers who can find and exploit the weak-aspects and weak-links of the OTHER team's Defense, Players and overall Schematics. Think Randy Moss here people: NO player imo has EVER been the deep-field threat that Moss is...but he ain't that great whatsoever and isn't built for going over the middle. Now, I LOVE having Moss on this team, BUT when NE started taking guys like Moss, who have certain BIG shortcomings in their game, yet who have just some unimaginable but very specific and hus very singular aspect(s) in their game, The New England Patriots gave up CONTROL. You are NOW gameplanning for and WITH your players skills, and NOT gameplanning for and AGAINST the other guy's weaknesses. Get it? You've now pigeon-holed yourself in certain player's great but select abilities, and thus your system schematics, plays and EVERYthing is now more limited, and thus: exploitable. RE : Defense - Bill Belichick NOW drafted players who made his Defense top-notch. He got smash-mouth and aggressive as he!! players... Asante Samuel who could turn an INT into a pick 6, but who didn't like to dirty his jersey (ever)= These guys are O-U-T. Who's In? Attackers... A CB who looks and feels just eerily like Ty Law. A Strongside ILB who looks and feels just eerily like Ted Johnson. AND a weakside OLB pass-rushing specialist who looks and feels eerily like Willie Mac. Kinda very coincidental, don'tcha ALL think? Targeting guys who are just hard-charging, aggressive and who LOVE and have a passion to play like this... Heck, Belichick even shored up his former BIG-time Special Teams play-makers in 1 turned to 2 moves: Getting the best Punter in 4-5 entire draft classes AND with Devin McCourty's sick and added Special Team's playmaking. Again: Eerily coincidental, huh? ~~ And shoot, some may disagree...BUT I liked even at the time BEFORE they lost the '07 SB, The 2001 Superbowl Team OVER the 2007 Offensive juggernaut and less smash-mouth defense, a million times better. I LOVED Brady throwing to whomever was open, using every play on long extended drives, coupled with just a fearless and aggressive defense. I know the '07 team mighta sold more hearts of Country Club Members who like high-scoring, BUT the '01 team stole more hearts of true gridiron fans who wanted to watch and FEEL that The Patriots were breaking the backs and wills by just punishing other squads... Who knows, I guess I'm just a happy-go-lucky sadist deep down, ya know: I don't want 'em beat, I just want them demoralized, smashed into the turf, then hit by a brick; I don't care how much they were beaten by in a 30 second quick 1 or 2 big hit knockout fight, I DO care in beating them ruthlessly into submission, so they are just sick to their stomach-terrified of you forever. Cute, huh?
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