Re: How do you prevent drafting a Gholston?
posted at 3/3/2011 1:43 AM EST
In Response to How do you prevent drafting a Gholston?
[QUOTE]I just saw on Sportscenter that Gholston was drafted #6 overall three years ago and is yet to sack an opposing QB. I know many of you have mentioned him when ridiculing the Jets. My question is, was there anything there to indicate Gholston would be a bust? I'd love to hear from the draft guys on this board who've actually followed the draft in detail. I just started keeping up with the draft last year. I'm interested in knowing if there were any red flags the Jets either deliberately overlooked or whether it was just a case of poor management.
Posted by apdynasty23[/QUOTE]ap~
- IS- the simple trick...You do not, DOooo Nooot: Draft a Collegiate Defensive End early in The NFL Draft...simple as that (yes...no matter HOW fast their clocked 40 time was; yes...no matter HOW quick they looked in the combine agility drills)
. Jets run a 3-4 Defense, New England runs a 3-4 Defense, MANY here on this BDC forum board, want New England to get a Linebacker... In a 3-4 D, more than 9 outta 10 times, you NEED to draft a collegiate Defensive End, and then transfer him to 3-4 Outside Linebacker... For the size aspect; To have the added size on the end at Outside Linebacker, b/c ya only have 3 D-Lineman, For that 3-4 Outside Linebacker to be able to "set the edge"; For that Outside Linebacker to be able to turn that running play Inwards, and not to let it get outside HIM, the last line of Defense on an outside running play (save for maybe a 5'10 cornerback, who's being blocked by a wideout regardless). 6 Foot 3 Inches=Nearly always, the Bare Minimum- 250- maybe 245 Pounds=the BAREST of minimum weight-wise. Found almost SOLELY on a Collegiate Defensive End
this new DE to NFL 3-4 OLB still can, Run up and set the edge...and even THIS
is somewhat unusual for him, b/c suddenly this former DE is doing different moves, He's now playing IN space with his hand off of the ground: MANY different moves even HERE, considering this former collegiate DE USED to set the edge by starting with his hand on the ground and having a man in his face, with that O-Lineman's arms all over him...So formerly, that collegiate DE (on a running play towards his end) would be doing, different time's and angles and strength differences of stack-and-shedding that O-Lineman, all these differences in swim moves, with differing leverages, strengths, speeds, and angles, In order to swoop around this O-Lineman who he's tuffling with... And suddenly this NEW 3-4 OLB is running head on in to an O-Lineman or fullback attempting to clear the way in space FOR this runningback...sorta different than facing the intended offensive blocker face first and a single foot or two away from yourself, and lol-at a standstill at the snap of the ball, when you WERE on the LOS as a collegiate DE, right? O.k., ya handled the oppossing blocker in massively larger & vaster space running right at you...ahh, now instead of being able to just knock the runningback half of the time, formerly when you were a DE (and watch him smash into another lineman, his or yours; Or simply impede his slow progress when that RB's dealing with the mass of humans when he's going through the LOS...he'll get damed up somewhere, or just enough)... Not NOW, weee! Ya suddenly are DEALING with a Runningback in GREATER space (whether he turns inwards or outwards)...lmao, sorta better odds in HIS favor, right?
Same here holds true, with that former collegiate DE to suddenly now NFL 3-4 OLB, varying his moves when he runs up at the snap of the ball and is suddenly OFF of an O-Lineman when this 3-4 OLB is blitzing the oppossing QB...more & now totally different quick-twitch speed variations, and differing pass-rush moves which give this 3-4 OLB far better chances to make this O-Lineman who's picking up his blitz, to utterly whiff altogether (ideally, obviously this is what you'd rather have as that 3-4 OLB sprinting up to blitz right at the snap=For the O-Lineman to just totally whiff on some quick body fake you'd give, b/c now IF that O-Lineman IS able to get his hands on you as you're doing some cr#ppy-#ss full sprint up to the LOS and weak-#ss fake, you as that 3-4 OLB are totally off-angle, badly balanced...and lol, this O-lineman can just put a single hard hand-punch big mitt on you and you're just done with, thrown to the ground on a bad balance during a poor fake you're giving in space, or skewed full-speed off sideways somewhere b/c you're going full-speed & in the midst of being badly balanced when he wails'ya)...
So alright, YOU now, ARE a collegiate Defensive End, who DID
make a wonderful transition to 3-4 Outside Linebacker, in terms of transitioning to setting the edge now in space and with ZERO O-Lineman on you... Heck, ya EVEN
were able to master and almost completely tweek and in some instances, TOTALLY change-up and vary your pass-rushing moves-more quick speed moves of body faking in space going full-bore ahead and not losing ANY speed, Less strength oriented shedding, swimming angles, strength balancing angles of both Your's AND Their's (i.e. throwing this O-Lineman to the ground after ya get some or any sorta leverage with your body strength & positioning over his own)... So GREAT!! Mr. NFL Coach is glowing happy with you!!
But Now Coach
says ta ya: "You've done FAN-freakin-tastic Mr. Former College Defensive End- and soon-to-be MR. STARTING 3-4 Outside Linebacker...All'ya got left to do, is learn how to defend eligible receivers, or zones- Sorry, AND zone-coverages...b/c I'm asking you to do both depending on the defensive package during any specific down...
," you, Mr. 3-4 OLB hopeful
, say?!? "I've never freaking COVERED an eligible receiver before...I mean, AS a former Defensive End, I've sniffed out a few screen plays developing and was able to disrupt them and run a runningback or two down over on the side, the flat...BUT Whaaa?!? I can be covering Tightends, Runningbacks, and even at certain times, slot and possession wideouts?!? Are you just b.s.'ing me or what
goes, "HowTH hard can it be? Learn every and all route trees, determine where coverage bubbles begin and end in zone, and precisely when and where eligible receivers leave 1 and enter another...probably yours, Have the neccessary speed to cover wideouts, runningbacks, and tightends, who're running exact timing patterns, perfect NFL-caliber route trees, which they know and you don't, coverage positioning, proper angles, & penalty-free pass defense when the ball's in the air, or not yea-depending on LOS jamming them, or not; Oh I forgot, ya need to read the QB in order to diagnose where the ball's headed and when on a passing play...Wait, wait, WHO am I kidding- Ya gotta now diagnose the PLAY itself, Run or Pass, Play-action fake...do I blitz on a play action fake OR not blitz...alright, I ONLY blitz IF it's NOT a 2 receiver set on my side of the field, if it's 1 WR I cover the RB...unless there's a TE, then I cover him...unless that TE goes in motion to the other side, then I stay in bubble coverage, but only 5 yards deep...unless that runningback stays in to pass-protect...in which case, I can creep back to 5-8 yards deep further down the field, in order to help b/c chances are the pass is going mid-range or long...Jesus Kr!st is that Vick back there?! Could he scramble...? What's my name...WhereTH am I
: "Have this mastered by training camp, 'cause they'll be a he!!'alot less opportunities to master this and get on the field come season time...Ya don't get this by end of next year's training camp, they'll be callin you a bust...Ya don't get this in 2 years, and you ARE a bust. WhyTH did I draft you anyways, I need ta win NOW, or I'll be on the street WITH you... Good god, I effectively spent an early 1st rder on a guy I ABSOLUTELY must shelf for at least a year as he learns a brand new position for the first time in hiis football life, and THEN hope he's GOOD at it too?! WhaTH's wrong with me, I GOTTA win NOW
THIS is why ya don't Draft a Collegiate DE to 3-4 NFL OLB until Round #2...maybe with the last 2 picks of Round 1...in which case, you're STILL