How is the Defense going to deal with Denver

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    AZPAT the broncos lost the game where manning threw 3 picks in the first quarter.

     
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    I feel pretty confident that the DB's won't get beat long as Noodle Arm Manning just doesn't have the zip for the long ball that he used to have.  From what I have seen, the Broncos have been passing short to mid field.  Manning seems to throw rainbow ducks when he goes long so if the Broncos try the deep ball it will be int's all day long.  I like how the DB's and LB's play the short to mid field passing game and the D has been very good against the run.  I feel good about this game!

     
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    I though the d played much better than the score indicates. They gave up a couple of bad plays in the first half but then settled down. Buffalo has a great running game that was shut down, they also shut down Stevie Johnson . I'd bet that was the plan. The BB defenses alway improve throughout the season, just like last season. The defense is going to be elite come playoff time.

     
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    Here's my recipe to beat this current Peyton Manning...

    First you walk up to Patrick Chung tomorrow and tell him there's a piece of paper waiting for him in the coach's room...it's pink...it has his name on it and guess what Patrick?! You get to start free agency a little earlier than you planned!! You and your agent should be so pleased! You won't have to worry about us low balling you with an offer or us not offering you anything at all...you can go now.

    Next, I put however is playing safety for us next week a lot closer together in the middle of the field and make Peyton throw to the outside and complete passes that require a lot of velocity. I have no idea if this part of my plan will work, but I'm certain the first part will help.

     
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    In response to portfolio1's comment:

    I am not expecting this D to shut down Manning. But if they can up the pass rush as they started to do v Bills it will make a world of difference.

    One key element will be continuing to use the running game as a means of domination unless the opponent overcompensates and gives Brady a reason to throw. That would be a D mistake.

    This will be another test. At 2-2 it is one the Pats need to pass and not fail.



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    Run the ball effectively and get enough pressure to get Peyton outside the pocket. Maybe blitz Hightower up the middle.  Let's not forget that, Tebow Jesus Magic aside, the Denver D is what kept them in most games last year. OL has to neutralize the rush and get Brady time when needed.


    My educated guess is that Peyton's accuracy outside the pocket drops considerably.

     
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    Peyton Manning 2012 isn't the Manning of old.  He's lost some of his zip on the ball so that he can't place the ball perfectly, and he doesn't seem to have all of his previous decision-making ability any more.  His age, maybe some injuries and the big layoff have all affected him some.  That's why Peyton is throwing interceptions this year.  Peyton can't throw long.  When he tries, the ball sometimes hits the ground in front of his target, or sometimes his target makes a shoelace catch.  The Patriots backfield will try to tempt Peyton into a bad decision.  Otherwise, expect a really savvy guy who can run his hurry-up offense and who can throw the ball out of bounds when the pressure gets too close. 

    I have the Patriots by 11.1 points.  footballlocks.com has them by 7 points.  It's not at all my game of the week.  That would be San Francisco to wallop Buffalo.

    Dan Koppen was dropped from the Patriots in September because he couldn't stop anybody any more.  Now Koppen is starting for Denver and he'll have to stop Vince Wilfork.  That's going to be an additional inside pass rush problem for Peyton.  My stats sometimes don't pick up late injuries at all.

     
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    The Patriots scored 86 points against the Broncos in two games last year.  They set all kinds of records in the second game and probaby could have scored 60.  Has the Broncos' defense improved?

     
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    In response to ipotnyc's comment:

    As for Gomer And The Broncos.  I respect Gomer immensly.   He's one of the best ever, and still is.

    So, here's 10:

    1. Run the ball effectively to keep him off the field. Because now we CAN.

    2. Study what the Falcons were doing because their D (atlanta's) isn't shut down.

    3. The Pats aren't the Raiders, so they WILL put up more than 3 points.

    4. BB finds a way to berate the D for their "lousy" performance against the Bills :-)

    5. BB knows this is the "over-the-hump", critical game.

    6. Keep McDaniels in isolation, away from the team.  Have Weis call in the plays from a remote location.

    7. Not the same O-line Gomer had in Indy.

    8. I will be the optimist and say DMC has turned a huge corner.

    9. Pats will NOT lose 2 in a row at home.  They want to reward the fans.

    10. Could we see Hernandez? Wishfull thinking




    The Patriots lead the NFL in total yardage and total points.  The offensive coordinator needs to go!

     
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    In response to DelGriffith's comment:

    Did you watch the last 2 games, AZPat?  As long as the refs allow that kind of holding, NO TEAMS are going to get sacks.

    It's disturbing what Goodell is doing, IMO.

    Buffalo has millions on Mario and Mark Anderson and what did they do?  Basically nothing for 4 qtrs. Dareus broke through on Wendell once and that was pretty much it.

    I'd say the pressures are important, not just sacks.  How can you complain about, what, 6 tunovers yesterday, some of the very timely variety. 

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    Oh, stop it!! Holding is a judgement call. Refs can call holding on every NFL and college play, if they want to get ticky-tack on the point. Would that satisfy you? You'd sure get all the holding calls you could stand and 0-0 games. Or, do you have a one way bias against any Pats penalty, particularly holding? There is a consistency with making these calls league wide, NIT just witht eh Pats. Always has been, always will be. So fughedaboudit! Get over your conspiracy theory bunk!


    As far as Mario goes, no one in Hiustoin was sad to see him go.... one good season, several partials, and not worth the money he sought out. Buffalo was dumb enuf to pay him. He's playing just like a lot of other "pros" do.... he got his, and it shows. That defense was pretty bad before he got there, and he's got no "added value" to it. So, Mario isn't and can't figure to be a factor till he gets himself motivated to show he's worth the money,a nd not just anoter dfree agent splash that belly flopped.

    Maybe I missed something, but turnovers don't equate to being gashed over the middle, again. Where I come from, and the sport I grew up with, a turnover meant you took possession of the football away from your opponent. Aside from the INT's, Fitzgerald handled the Pats DB's. They couldn't stop my deceased Grandma in a wheelchair moving up hill with a flat tire (again).  

    Will you go on record right here, right now, to say that if Manning lights them up and somehow pulls out a win, againt the same Pats defense we saw yesterday (multiple turnovers) that you won't be concerned? Remember, Manning threw 3 INT's in the first Qtr and STILL won a game earlier this year.


    Sorry, I see Manning drooling at the prospects for Sunday....... This defense is too soft in the middle. I still haven't seen anything to fear from it.



    Wrong that was against Atl. Where he had 3 interceptions and they did lose.

     

     
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    Re: How is the Defense going to deal with Denver

    The way I see this game..the Broncos defense hasn't all of a sudden gotten better since last year.  I don't think their defense matches up well with our offense AT all.  That said...if Manning can get out to a lead, it will change drastically the tone of how the game goes (I know...Capt Obvious reporting for duty).

     

    I think the Pats offense can have their way and own the game...i'm not sold on the Broncos offensive line either.  Pats defense will have to be disciplined and get a few three and outs.  At that point...the game should be going to our advantage and hopefully we'll see the return of the Manning face.

     

    Manning in Foxborough means nothing anymore.  He's owned our defenses since 2005.  The couple wins we did get, it was a very close game.

     
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