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    How To Beat The Blitz...

    posted at 9/17/2009 6:41 AM EDT

    You know for the rest of the year, the Patriots are going to get blitzed a lot. Depending on the quality of the opposing teams pass rush and blitz packages - I would imagine we're going to see our share of problems.

    Anyone out there have any insight on how to beat the various types of blitzes and how to improve our pass rush D?

    Considering that the Patriots like to use 4 receivers to spread the field - and leaving Brady alone in the backfield - I'm wondering if they need to leave a running back behind to protect Brady?

    One of the things that I was screaming for last year was using Moss for all types of routes vs. long ones. Looks like they've expanded his role - and it showed last week.
     

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    Re: How To Beat The Blitz...

    posted at 9/17/2009 7:10 AM EDT

    Randy Moss and Wes Welker
     

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    Re: How To Beat The Blitz...

    posted at 9/17/2009 8:19 AM EDT

    Watch the last five minutes of the Bills game.  Buffalo was blitzing on every play.
     

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    Re: How To Beat The Blitz...

    posted at 9/17/2009 8:31 AM EDT

    Like one poster said watch the last 5 mins of the Bills game. If you notice when Brady feels they need help on the blitz he moves Faulk around to where the blitz is coming from. Kevin Faulk is great at picking up the blitz

     

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    Re: How To Beat The Blitz...

    posted at 9/17/2009 9:10 AM EDT

    By the last 5 minutes of the game, the bills defense was exhausted because the pats dominated time of possession and the bills d had to play a lot


    In Response to Re: How To Beat The Blitz...:
    Like one poster said watch the last 5 mins of the Bills game. If you notice when Brady feels they need help on the blitz he moves Faulk around to where the blitz is coming from. Kevin Faulk is great at picking up the blitz
    Posted by Tnutts

     

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    Re: How To Beat The Blitz...

    posted at 9/17/2009 9:59 AM EDT

    Weapon X aKa Kevin Faulk is how you beat the blitz. 
     

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    Re: How To Beat The Blitz...

    posted at 9/17/2009 10:41 AM EDT

    Faulk is surely one of our better blockers from the RB corp, but often times Brady was left alone in shotgun formation w/o any protection due to the spread formation - so, what do the Patriots have to do to protect Brady? The Bills did a pretty good job of harassing him this past sunday - so, do we call fewer plays w/ a spread offense in order to protect Brady and buy him more time?

     

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    Re: How To Beat The Blitz...

    posted at 9/17/2009 10:44 AM EDT

    The Pats looked bad against the blitz early because they were rusty. Brady got the hang of it, and wasn't touched in the later parts of the game.

    I hope the Jets send the sink.
     

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    Re: How To Beat The Blitz...

    posted at 9/17/2009 10:57 AM EDT

    You beat the blitz by having a more balanced offense and running the ball down people's throats. Brady should not be throwing the ball 35+ times every game. This isn't 2007, it's 2009...a new season completely different than in years past. The OL needs to show up for this game right from the start of else they'll lose. Matt Light looked awful last game.

    Our defense (despite needing time to jell and minis Mayo) will still be able to control their offense. Belichick will confuse a rookie QB (Sanchez) any day of the week. It'll be up to our offense to move the ball and get early points so that it puts pressure on the Jets offense to match them. If that happens, we'll dictate the game and win.
     

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    Re: How To Beat The Blitz...

    posted at 9/17/2009 11:21 AM EDT

    I dont see them using the 5 reciever spread as much this week. Im thinking more of a 4 reciever set with a TE or RB to help pick up the blitz. Brady is smart enough to know where its coming from and attack that area of the field. I see Welker and maybe even Edelman (if he plays) having a big day.

     

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    Re: How To Beat The Blitz...

    posted at 9/17/2009 3:19 PM EDT

    maybe we should mix in a wildcat play......right at beginning of game.......Jets would be all confused.
     

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    Re: How To Beat The Blitz...

    posted at 9/17/2009 3:21 PM EDT

    How to beat the blitz? one name for you....Tom Brady
     

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    Re: How To Beat The Blitz...

    posted at 9/17/2009 3:29 PM EDT

    Max protection and mis-direction plays.
     

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    Re: How To Beat The Blitz...

    posted at 9/17/2009 10:49 PM EDT

    In Response to How To Beat The Blitz...:
    You know for the rest of the year, the Patriots are going to get blitzed a lot. Depending on the quality of the opposing teams pass rush and blitz packages - I would imagine we're going to see our share of problems. Anyone out there have any insight on how to beat the various types of blitzes and how to improve our pass rush D? Considering that the Patriots like to use 4 receivers to spread the field - and leaving Brady alone in the backfield - I'm wondering if they need to leave a running back behind to protect Brady? One of the things that I was screaming for last year was using Moss for all types of routes vs. long ones. Looks like they've expanded his role - and it showed last week.
    Posted by BubbaInHawaii

    You beat the blitz by throwing hot and have your receivers run sight adjusted (going to wherever the blitzers just left). The downside to blitzing too many men is you give up too much underneath stuff so the key is to move the chains downfield in short completions and this requires discipline.

    Another good way to beat the blitz is to go no-huddle because then you do not give the D the time it needs to set in a blitz; also when you have frequently blitzing without much break, that will tire the D out quickly.

    Brady is the best at beating the blitz because of his highly accurate throws and ability at PSR (pre-snap read). You start with hard focus and soft gaze L/R key on mike and read off will (to determine outside blitzing). Also fake motion and see if safeties adjust, because if they do you diagnose safety bliz or more than a 4-5 man rush. The list goes on and on, etc.

    Really beating a blitz is all about doing your homework, identifying your key, identifying alignment and being disciplined when it comes at you, and nobody does that better than Brady (just check his QB rating on the blitz).

    Many people think Ryan throws a lot of blitzes but that is wrong.. he balances that with pressures.. gives you a lot of fake looks and disguised fronts that change at the snap. It's all about deception.


     

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    Re: How To Beat The Blitz...

    posted at 9/17/2009 10:57 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: How To Beat The Blitz...:
    Max protection and mis-direction plays.
    Posted by ShiningWizard


    Max protect is giving the blitzers a target to work with. Ryan wants this because he loves throwing the house at you. You don't want to play into his hands by pulling the "this is what we do, see if you can beat us" because you will lose some battles. It is far better to beat the blitz by getting rid of the ball fast, because after you get rid of the ball, the blitz is automatically dead. Any contact and you have a roughing penalty.
     

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    Re: How To Beat The Blitz...

    posted at 9/18/2009 12:41 AM EDT

    Running the ball can also beat the blitz.When LB's and/or DB's commit to pressuring the QB they sacrifice run support.You need good blocking schemes and O-line play to open a lane though.On jail breaks you need a hot read to a slot WR or TE.For mobile QB's, bootlegs can buy some time.You can also bait a defense to break containment and let the HB get open for the screen in the flat.

     

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    Re: How To Beat The Blitz...

    posted at 9/18/2009 7:19 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: How To Beat The Blitz...:
    Watch the last five minutes of the Bills game.  Buffalo was blitzing on every play.
    Posted by themightypatriotz


    What? Buffalo stayed in a polite 4-3 with cover two and LBs dropping the entire game. Anybody actually watch the JESTS game on Sunday, against the third best offense in the NFL last year and coached by an "offensive genius"? What Ryan teaches and uses is a far different brand of defensive football and blitzing than anything anyone else uses. And it is amazing that Brodie Croyle and Kansas City put up 24 points in Baltimore now that Ryan is gone. Let's not compare Buffalo in any way to what we will see this weekend.
     

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    Re: How To Beat The Blitz...

    posted at 9/18/2009 7:25 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: How To Beat The Blitz...:
    Weapon X aKa Kevin Faulk is how you beat the blitz. 
    Posted by 49Patriots


    The Houston press and beat writers said the same thing about Slaton before last week's game. David Harris demolished Slaton. The JESTS will have Faulk accounted for. They are not Buffalo. All this trash-talking about how easy it will be to beat the "loud mouths" in New York is just making some of our fans look equally ignorant and equally "loud-mouthed". They are a formidable opponent equal to Pittsburgh and Tennessee in style and talent. And I would never rip those teams if we play them. As for the fans, they have nothing to do with the team Ryan has assembled, they are just hoping for a good band wagon to hop on.
     

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    Re: How To Beat The Blitz...

    posted at 9/18/2009 7:25 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: How To Beat The Blitz...:
    In Response to How To Beat The Blitz... : You beat the blitz by throwing hot and have your receivers run sight adjusted (going to wherever the blitzers just left). The downside to blitzing too many men is you give up too much underneath stuff so the key is to move the chains downfield in short completions and this requires discipline. Another good way to beat the blitz is to go no-huddle because then you do not give the D the time it needs to set in a blitz; also when you have frequently blitzing without much break, that will tire the D out quickly. Brady is the best at beating the blitz because of his highly accurate throws and ability at PSR (pre-snap read). You start with hard focus and soft gaze L/R key on mike and read off will (to determine outside blitzing). Also fake motion and see if safeties adjust, because if they do you diagnose safety bliz or more than a 4-5 man rush. The list goes on and on, etc. Really beating a blitz is all about doing your homework, identifying your key, identifying alignment and being disciplined when it comes at you, and nobody does that better than Brady (just check his QB rating on the blitz). Many people think Ryan throws a lot of blitzes but that is wrong.. he balances that with pressures.. gives you a lot of fake looks and disguised fronts that change at the snap. It's all about deception.
    Posted by patpscyho


    I think we do so a lot of no huddle stuff.
     

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    Re: How To Beat The Blitz...

    posted at 9/18/2009 7:30 AM EDT

    Did anyone see the Jests' defense where the two insider LBs lined up down and Jenkins was standing at MLB, obviously going to blitz? The Houston line freaked out and let all 3 in. At least this Ryan is not afraid to try new stuff and break the NFL "mold". Many years ago, BB used a 2-5 defense against Flutie and Flutie had no clue. The great ones adjust and innovate. Sunday's game has two great defensive coaches, both concocting stuff none of us can imagine. It will be a great game to watch.
     

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    Re: How To Beat The Blitz...

    posted at 9/18/2009 7:47 AM EDT

    -Quick stuff, WR screens, slants, RB screens.

    -Do not have QB under center.

    -Bench LM for BJGE

    Most Importantly have a game plan that makes them adjust their game to yours and not vise versa.  Remember that Steeler game a few years?  We came out 5 wide and never stopped.
     

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    Re: How To Beat The Blitz...

    posted at 9/18/2009 8:10 AM EDT

    They'll use a lot of draw plays in the shotgun. That's what worked last year for Cassel and he's half the QB Brady is. They won 11 games with primarily a running game; why does that have to change?
     

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    Re: How To Beat The Blitz...

    posted at 9/18/2009 11:38 AM EDT

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    maybe we should mix in a wildcat play......right at beginning of game.......Jets would be all confused.
    Posted by sday4x45


    I'm surprised that we have not seen the wildcat w/ patriots yet. I guess have Brady line up as a receiver and his blazing speed doesn't strike any fear in the hearts of opponents....lol
     

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    Re: How To Beat The Blitz...

    posted at 9/18/2009 11:43 AM EDT

    quick outs, slants, draws, screen, screen screen.