How Would You Beat the Pats?

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    Pure Fantasy: you have just been named head coach of an opposing NFL team, what would do to beat the Pats?

     
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    Pure Fantasy: you have just been named head coach of an opposing NFL team, what would do to beat the Pats?
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    Aside from kidnapping Brady, you should get a couple of quick scores then force Brady to throw a pick or BJGE to fumble. Good luck with that.
    Anyway, I'd rather talk about how this team can improve.
     
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    See Cleveland.

    Grind it out. Pound at their mid-section with a power running attack and short passes. Keep the ball. Do not turn it over.

     
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    The 2007 Giants had the blueprint and it still works today.  Just not many teams have the personal to pull it off.  On defense you have to be able to pressure brady with just the front 4.  The offense is much more a timing offense then anything now so I agree with Rodney you have to play man to man and jam the recievers and mess up the timing.  You cannot play zone against Brady he will find the holes.

    On offense be able to run run run.  Just like when Manning was at his best, the best way to stop em is keep em off the field.  Along with the run short passes and over the middle.  There is still a huge hole in the middle of the pats d in their zone 10 to 15 yards middle of field.

    Lastly don't turn the ball over.

    That would be my game plan.  Easy to say, harder to execute.
     
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    I agree somewhat with Patsman2 on how the Giants did it in 2007. Having the ability to create pressure with your front 4 is a good start. The problem for these type of teams is that we have 3 legit TE's who can stay back and help block, and we run much less of a spread offense (which is highly susceptible to this type of attack).  
    Looking at the the Pats personnel and multiple configurations of how we could attack, I don't think there exists really a blueprint to stop this team. I think the Cleveland game was as probably as close as you could get to it, but I also think the Pats were completely off that game...which is another way to stop the Pats..hope they mess up and can't find a rythm.
     
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    Switch to Basketball - I Hate Fantasy!
     
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    Right now and I agree pressure up the middle is the key BUT the way the OL is playing the excellent blocking from TEs and RBs no one beat the Pats but the Pats. 

    Also the Giant's game plan worked with the 2007 O, don't think it would be as effective with this O.  They wouldn't get to Brady as they did, quick passes too many weapons and the X factor, Alge Crumpler.
     
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    NYC!!!!! how would you beat the red sox???
     
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    NYC!!!!! how would you beat the red sox???
    Posted by Hammah29r2


    I am not really a baseball fan and haven't followed the Sox or anyone but my sense is ...

    The Red Sox turned around almost 90 years of not winning championships by 1 thing. They changed ownership that brought in new management. New management brought in significant difference makers that had a winnng attitude and bought into a team concept. They were able to come together when they most needed to.

    Or maybe it is just my fantasy?

     
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    The 2007 Giants had the blueprint and it still works today.  Just not many teams have the personal to pull it off.  On defense you have to be able to pressure brady with just the front 4.  The offense is much more a timing offense then anything now so I agree with Rodney you have to play man to man and jam the recievers and mess up the timing.  You cannot play zone against Brady he will find the holes. On offense be able to run run run.  Just like when Manning was at his best, the best way to stop em is keep em off the field.  Along with the run short passes and over the middle.  There is still a huge hole in the middle of the pats d in their zone 10 to 15 yards middle of field. Lastly don't turn the ball over. That would be my game plan.  Easy to say, harder to execute.
    Posted by Patsman2


    For what it's worth, that's exactly what Brady said on WEEI the other day. He said other teams know this but the problem is 95% of teams don't have that kind personnel to make that happen.
     
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    Have the entire team play with their left arm duct taped around their body-Per Roger  "The Rabbit" Good-ill. Otherwise no chance Baby not this year! Go Pats
     
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    The 2007 Giants had the blueprint and it still works today.  Just not many teams have the personal to pull it off.  On defense you have to be able to pressure brady with just the front 4.  The offense is much more a timing offense then anything now so I agree with Rodney you have to play man to man and jam the recievers and mess up the timing.  You cannot play zone against Brady he will find the holes. On offense be able to run run run.  Just like when Manning was at his best, the best way to stop em is keep em off the field.  Along with the run short passes and over the middle.  There is still a huge hole in the middle of the pats d in their zone 10 to 15 yards middle of field. Lastly don't turn the ball over. That would be my game plan.  Easy to say, harder to execute.
    Posted by Patsman2


    Wouldn't work today, not with the added size of Crump and Gronk on the line for pass protection, and the darting quickness of a scat-back like Woodhead. The 2007 Pats couldn't run on the Giants; out of the heavy package, this group could. Added to that the break off routes run by Branch as opposed to the vertical routes run by Moss (that did not have time to mature), and this version of the Pats would have put up 30+ on Big Blue.
     
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    Zero turnovers - protect the ball and don't make risky throws.  I think the Chiefs with their running game, conservative offense, and Weis would do a good job of minimizing risks.  I also think the Saints with Brees at QB would avoid dumb throws.  If Rodgers were/is healthy, he'd be good at making smart throws (Packers).

    Elite pass rushers - the Patriots offensive line isn't the most athletically gifted.  Through a combination of one-on-one matchups where a player can flex their superior athleticism and speed, they can be beat, especially on certain twists.  The Colts with Freeney and Mathis come to mind.  The Steelers also can send their linebackers on blitzes - Harrison, Farrior, Timmons, or Woodley (particularly Harrison and Woodley).  The Ravens have Haloti Ngata to collapse the pocket and Suggs coming off the edge.  The Giants still field Justin Tuck, Usi Umenyiora, and Mathias Kiwanuka.

    Zero pre-snap information on defense - Brady will eat you alive if you show him something before the ball is snapped.  It's imperative to disguise coverages against him.  In this regard, I think any team that runs the Cover 2 all the time like the Bears is instantly doomed.  Pittsburgh presents the most challenges look-wise with their zone blitzes and their linebacker corpsThe Ravens do a nice job with Ed Reed patrolling center field, although they lean on their one-on-one matchups more.  I'd bet the Chiefs would have some interesting looks with Crennel in charge of their defense, as did the Browns and ManginiThe Packers have their 3-4 and the Saints are able to vary looks with Mike Williams running their defense.

    Jam their receivers - the Patriots have a lot of timing routes and precision routes. Opponents need to give their pass rush enough time to get to Brady.  Change it up, but don't let the Pats' receivers get to their spots too easily.  It'll be interesting to watch the Packers and Woodson against Deion Branch this weekend.  I thought the Jets had the personnel to do this, but they gave away their looks too easily pre-snap.  Our former cornerbacks in Philly are apparently doing a decent job this year as Samuel is the only player who has more INTs than McCourty.  And again, Crennel would probably coach up the Chiefs to do this.

    Ball control - keep the ball out of their hands with possession time and by milking the play clock and wear down this defense.  Sub-package runs creating traffic for Guyton or challenging Fletcher head-on to hold his ground seem to work well, but otherwise just run away from Wilfork (or figure out how to technique double-team him with chips while still getting guys to the second level).  It's tough to key in on one thing with the Pats because they take away your specialty.  I would challenge my best players during practice, maybe having an extra linebacker on the field when we run or having two safeties harrass my pass-catching tight end to make life tough if they're the focal points of my offense.  I think the Chargers have one of the best offenses personnel-wise to match up with the Patriots if they ever get their whole crew together (Rivers, Matthews/Tolbert, V-Jax, Floyd, Nanee, and Gates).  A healthy Colts side also stresses the entire secondary (Clark, Wayne, Garcon, Collie), although they're not much of a threat to run; without Clark, their whole offense looks cobbled together because Tamme is only average.

    Otherwise, force the Pats into an ugly, slug it out, sloppy game where the Pats' controlled, deliberate style deteriorates.  Then increased variables work in your favor, assuming you can pull them into such a game.


     
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    In Response to Re: How Would You Beat the Pats? : Wouldn't work today, not with the added size of Crump and Gronk on the line for pass protection, and the darting quickness of a scat-back like Woodhead. The 2007 Pats couldn't run on the Giants; out of the heavy package, this group could. Added to that the break off routes run by Branch as opposed to the vertical routes run by Moss (that did not have time to mature), and this version of the Pats would have put up 30+ on Big Blue.
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    Another big part of game preparation would be the changing personnel packages.  I would have multiple strings of offenses and cycle them into practice continuously rapid-fire to try to prepare my players to think on their toes and adjust to each set.  Rather than trying to memorize what the Patriots do in each set because the Pats have such an extensive playbook, I would try to teach concepts, such as which schemes they use in each situation or which lineman or linemen we can attack (I'd bet that Vollmer and Connolly's communication wouldn't be up to snuff with Light's and Mankins', so I'd run some looks on that side to force Brady to his left or throw the ball away).

    With the tight ends, I'd need an athletic OLB to cover Gronkowski size-wise and a safety with decent man-to-man skills for Hernandez.  Again the Steelers come to mind with Harrison and Woodley who can both run with Gronk, although I'd be loath to waste Polamalu on Hernandez when I'd need his threat on as much of the field as possible.  I bet I could jam Hernandez, though - I don't see him as the physical presence that Gronk is.  I also think I could blow up runs in the backfield with guys lined up across from him because I don't see Hernandez as being as capable of a blocker as Crumpler or Gronk.


    This is all speculation though - this Patriots team has few glaring weaknesses and I'm sure if I stumbled onto any of them the Patriots coaching staff is already ridng said players on them about these things for hours on end.
     
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    If anyone out ther truley knows, keep it to yourself till AFTER the Super Bowl!!!!!
     
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    They key is water. You have to have good water. Just ask the waterboy.....
     
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    See Cleveland. Grind it out. Pound at their mid-section with a power running attack and short passes. Keep the ball. Do not turn it over.
    Posted by p-mike

    Plus add the fact the team played poorly all around and it was Cleveland's day.
     
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    Start at the very beginning and do a Bob Kraft. 

    Land a good GM and the league's most expensive talent scout team.  Trade draft picks forward at a profit.  Spot ten potential winning quarterbacks available for a sixth round pick.  Cycle through all sorts of JAGs all year until you find good players.  Don't be afraid to cut injured or aged veterans.  Work the draft and the salary cap hard.  Treat your players like royalty, and don't be the least bit stingy if you have to give out rings.  Build new facilities to order.

    Identify the best young coach available, land him at any cost, and keep him at a pretty stiff cost too.  Make it clear that he'll be graded on the curve, based on the talent he's been given, not straight on the number of wins. 

    Build a diverse group of 53 players.  Get regular BJGE backs and Woodheads.  Get huge blocking TEs like Crumpler and Gronk, who can really catch.  Get speedballs like Tate and Price.  Get guys with lateral acceleration like Welker and Edelman.  Don't undersell experience but do look for bargains (Branch).  Get seriously strong and mobile pulling guards who play the pass rush.  On defense get some huge run-stopping linemen and some rush specialists too.  Get a big nickel back.  Draft really competent guys in the back seven.  Get guys with gorilla arms. 

    Borrow all sorts of good tactics from around the NFL, but especially from winners.  Often that means from the Patriots.  Do what your team does best, but have a plan B espcially when playing the Patriots because they take away what another team does best. 

    The Patriots play worse after being hit with gimmick plays.  Stock up on them.  Haul them all out of storage from last July.  Change your team's operational systems as radically as you dare, if beating the Patriots is all that counts.

    Nobody in the NFL has done all of this very well, so the Pats don't need to worry that much. 


     
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    Man-to-man coverage. Seldom blitz.  Use a 3-4 front with a speedy pass rushing LB or safety hitting the strong side at Light. So going for the coverage sacks. Brady seems to perform worse when he has not open receiver.  He picks apart zone.

    Run the ball outside, use screens and do the short passes as much as possible to keep Brady from getting the ball. Pass to your tallest targets in the red zone.
     
    Adjust, adjust, adjust.
     
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    "See Cleveland.
    Grind it out. Pound at their mid-section with a power running attack and short passes. Keep the ball. Do not turn it over."
         ~p-mike

    Prairie and ALL:

    Prairie, The ONLY problem here, IS that right now, what Cleveland did on Offense...wouldn't work again.  It wouldn't...  I'm being serious here...Allow me to explain:

    After the Browns game, I started one of my mile & a half long threads...  And, well let's just say After writing about 30 paragraphs or so, I realized that I was only roughly about halfway through, and so I simply gave up and deleted it... 

    SEE, I'll at least attempt the "cliff-notes" version of it here:

    Ya see After The Browns game, I attempted to find some reason as to why NE's Defense was used and abused in that game...  So I looked thoroughly at the gamecenter play-by-play version of the game BOTH here @ BDC and even moreso @ NFL.com's version of the gamecenter where it shows precisely where each play and drive was occuring and where on the field (pertaining to both the plays going lengthwise as teams are driving up and down the gamefield AND where the plays are going WIDTH-wise, between the hashmarks as to find out where EXACTLY on the field of play each down's play was spotted)...  Yes, I'm a l#ser...BUT I'm a very, very thorough l#ser. 

    THEN, AFTER I found out EXACTLY what The Cleveland Browns Offense did AND how they did it...I really needed to find out WHY and How Could Cleveland exploit NE's Defense so well...  I decided to look at Cleveland's Offensive and NE's Defensive EXACT player formations for that particular game...  But guess what?  NE's Defensive player alignment set-up had already changed for some reason.  Yet, I looked further back, And ended up finding NE's basic D set-up for the Brown's Game...  It was ONLY then that I realized that NE's Defense had changed the following week, because some OTHER fella figured out and analyzed exactly what Cleve did...  The guy?  Bill Belichick figured it out too...

    Here goes...

    First, I hate to use the term "Genius Game-Plan" when it comes to Eric Ratgini...but (gulp), it (gulp) sorta was

    ~WHAT CLEVELAND'S OFFENSE DID in the NE/Cleve Game~
         ...they used what they had in a bigger bruising RB in Peyton Hillis, and Cleveland's O ran the ball NOT simply towards the center of NE's D...BUT, Brown's O, ran the ball EXACTLY towards the WEAK-side center of NE's Defense...Always, AL-Ways.  Seriously, where The Brown's attacked in that particular game, was more exact than having bad-weather in New England...
        
    ~The Boring NFL History Lesson
    And indeed, It ended up being nearly SOLELY about field positioning.  No, NOT length-wise...BUT field positioning WIDTH-WISE, as to where width-wise between those 2 center hashmarks located something like 18 feet or so from each of the 2 opposite sideline's and going inwards towards the field's center, seperately.  WIDTH-wise, as to where WIDTH-wise the last downed play ended...whether in some exact spot within the yards between those 2 hashmarks OR IF it ended up outside 1 of the hashmarks (like someone runnin' outta bounds), then precisely ON that side's nearest hashmark...
         Sorry ALL, I'm dumbing it further down for some laypeople here...  See ALL, NEVER are you gonna have the football at the Exact and Precise mili-inch in the EXACT middle of the field...  You're ALWAYS gonna have 1 side of the field with even just a mere foot of extra space WIDTH-wise.  THIS, is known as the STRONGside of the field (the one with added room for the Offense to run towards).  The other side is known as the WEAKside (less room for the Offense to run towards)...  And indeed, Offense's WOULD and DO use that added room to run more plays towards, So your Defense is set-up accordingly: In a 3-4 Defense, the BIGGEST difference is width your 2 OLBs and 2 ILBs.  On the strongside, ya got your biggest & strongest OLB, so he has less speed, but more strength and bulk size in order to turn plays inward and seal that edge.  Right Next to him, pretty much a similiar rule applies to your Strongside ILB=Bigger and Bulkier...less of a form tackler, more of a smashmouth player, considering he's taking on extra blockers coming with that extra inward spacial room.  Then ya got your weakside ILB and finally weakside OLB.  These guys trully rely on the strongside ILB and SOLB, actually TAKING on these blockers coming near their way...These guys are specialists in a way, YET specialists whom are and USUALLY can forsake certain other skills in the expense.  The WILB, has speed and is a picture-perfect form wrapping tackler...yet, he's smaller and not as strong as his SILB counterpart.  The WOLB, Is the pass-rushing demon...because there's far less run-plays goin' his way, and on pass-plays he's on the side which is most often the oppossing QB's blindside.  So this WILB can forsake being a good run-stopper, because he counts far more in the pass-rush game=So, a smaller, but quicker guy than the SOLB, and his skill-set becomes geared more towards pass-rushing refinement techniques OVER run-stopping trademarks...
    ~Boring History Lesson O-V-E-R.
         
         The Cleveland Offense, well-ah, Well, D#mn: They Did NOT do, what ya COUNT on Offense's TO do...  They didn't run the ball to the strongside of the field of play, the one that HAS that added running room for Offense's...Instead They Did, RUN the ball towards the WEAKside, the one that has LESS running room.  And guess what?  They disguised it pretty darn well too...  Cleveland didn't run any glaring sweeps each and every time towards that weakside.  No.  The kept the ball-running towards the middle of the NE's Defense.  The Brown's Offensive bread and butter, became plays towards and between either their weakside Offensive Center and Offensive Guard, OR between Their weakside Offensive Guard and Offensive Tackle.  Center of the field "Area."  AND, here's the kicker...HOW they disguised it:  Cleveland would do anywhere from 2-4 plays between where I said they did (either weakside OC-OG or OG-OT), THEN they'd do either 1 of 2 things: #1. they'd cut their losses (because they could), and do 1 run towards the strongside of NE's Defense. And guess what? They'd get a mere 1 or 2 yards at most...But see, that was o.k., because they'd make it up on the subsequent bigger yardage plays towards the weakside again, in the following plays...  OR, #2. They'd pass the ball. And see this, serves a purpose too: It keeps Defense's from crowding their Safeties towards the LOS in order to defend the good running plays... D's gotta STILL at least somewhat respect the passing game this way...So D's (and NE's D did), stay honest in defending the oppossing O's pass-game.  


    ~So, That's it...  Oh, I guess, ya still might just like to know what Eric Mangini and The Browns SAW, in order to make this SO successful, right?  O.k..


    ~HOW CLEVELAND'S OFFENSE DID IT In The NE/Cleve Game~
         See, It was far, Far LESS about the weapon's Cleveland's Offense actually had at their disposal...  Here, I'm refering to their big RB, Peyton Hillis.  Which, ya he's a somewhat decent between the tackles runner...but certainly, Hillis is no pro-bowler; He's no Adrian Peterson...  He's got big RB size @ like 6'2 and 235lbs...big boy, there.  That didn't do it though, It merely worked out well for them.  WHAT then, DID it?
         New England did it.  NE's EXACT and PRE-cise Defensive set-up DID it...Player-wise, Personell-wise...Precisely Who was Where on NE's D.
         Now, as you ALL recall, NE's own (and sadly, pretty much "only") 3-4 DE, in Ty Warren was lost to an injury before the season.  Subsequently, Bill Belichick found it nearly impossible for NE's Defense to then get ANY pressure on the oppossing team's backfield.  Warren, was no true pass-threat, but man, He wa- BIG.  6'6 300lb 3-4 DE's don't grow on trees, ya know.  NOW, Belichick had a decision to make: Either use Vince Wilfork (who WAS a 4-3 Collegiate DT), @ NT in his 3-4 Defensive System, where VW would occupy his usual combo of interior OC and 1 of the 2 OGs; In which case, the other 2 new and novice 3-4 DEs would get swallowed up regardless (1 by an OG-OT combo, and 1 by just any ole single OT) and thus, STILL put ZERO pressure collapsing the oppossing squad's pocket, because his sole vet D-Lineman in VW, would be @ NT and therefore be facing his usual center of the entire team's O-Line.....OR, Place VW @ the RDE spot, and hope he just might do even a little more damage collapsing a pocket, by facing just 1 side of an O-Line...   Belichick chose the latter, eventuually moving Wilfork from NT to 3-4 RDE.  He had NO idea exactly how badly it skewed and badly outbalanced NE's Defense.

    THIS was NE's Defensive set-up for The Cleveland Browns Game:
    DE G Warren/BDead/ @ 6'4, 305-NT G Warren @ 6'1 310-V Wilfork @ 6'2 325
    OLB TBC 6'2 245-ILB JMayo 6'1 242-ILB BSpikes 6'3 250-OLB RNink 6'2 255
    now, picture the 2 CBs up @ the LOS w/the DEs, or btwn the DEs and LBs
    CB K Arrington @ 5'10 and 195lbs       CB Devin McCourty @ 5'11 and 195lbs

    Now, it's not so much that's it's a HUGE weight and size difference from strongside to weakside of NE's D...It's even the specifics of each and every player's strengths and weaknesses:  TBC-even last year was noted for bein' so god-awful vs the run his way.  Warren @ 6'1 and 310lbs is nowhere NEAR what a true 3-4 NTs size should be...heck, even Wilfork isn't at a decent enough 3-4 NTs size.  Kyle Arrington's noteable weakness (just like Darius Butler), has been his strength development.  Finally, All ya got left is sending that added blocker or 2, straight past NE's rookie (and undersized) Left 3-4 DE, and straight @ Mayo...And THIS is what Cleveland did.

    ~By the following weak, guess what changes Bill Belichick had made to his Defense?  VW was back in the center of the D, @ NT.  AND, Spikes and Mayo had actually switched positions (which kinda makes better sense overall, because Spikes becomes that link between helping TBC @ weakside and helping Mayo the other way, with bigger SOLB Rob Ninkovich sealing the other side of Mayo...  AND (BB didn't stop there even)-Idk if it's still this way, but initially BB actually switched Arrington & McCourty too- w/ Arrington's weaker @ the LOS strength vs McCourty's far better abilities in getting through WR blocks vs the run (although I'm unsure IF it's still this way).

    ~The end result in NE's Defensive progression as of late CANnot be really argued with though...ANYway, It's why Bill Belick IS the very best...He saw what happened, and he made the corrections in order to UTTERLY make sure that the exact same thing that The Cleveland Browns did early on in this season, Won't, Can't and Will Not Happen Again...
         ~Sadly, this was the brief form of my original thesis (I believed somewhere in that original thread that I deleted, I had digressed somewhere on Dinosaurs, Air Fresheners, and I believe, the electron microscope as well.     

     
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    Disagree about front four pressure, because that is a general blue print to beat most people and Brady is in the zone sidestepping good pressure rather easily. IT was a much, much easier trick when NE relied on the down field "kill shot" with Randy.

    The key to taming this offense is foreclosing Brady's options with tight man coverage. NE has an abundance of reliable WRs, but only a few really pose matchup problems in man to man.

    That said, the emergence of Woodhead has given Brady a tool to combat even that. He has a shed full of "B" weapons that he can distribute to at will. 

    But the times when NE's offense gets "slow" are the times when the opposing teams tighten up on the WRs and contest every ball that is thrown.  
     
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    Pure Fantasy: you have just been named head coach of an opposing NFL team, what would do to beat the Pats?
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    get pressure on brady w/ enough to hit him, harrass him, or move him out of the pocket - chuck receivers aggressively on the line to disrupt time, and score more points than the pats......lolLaughing
     
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    Win the toss and elect to receive, score on every possession, 75% success rate on on-sides kick after each score. 

    TOP: Opponent 57:20, Patriots 2:40

    Final score: Opponent 29, Patriots 14
     
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