Re: I Want Answers
posted at 7/16/2013 4:59 PM EDT
In response to Muzwell's comment:
In response to rkarp's comment:
I disagree. When the NFL mandates such action or every team in the NFL agrees to take such action, then fine. But, give me one reason why the New England Patriots should do this when nobody else is required to, and nobody else does?
Denver did this week. The Jets will once Goodsons trial is over. I hope the Pats do after Dennerds hearing, and they do not wait for the NFL to act. Pats should give him 4 games if he is found guilty, and not wait for the NFL to act.
Hernandez is off the team, he's a non-issue as far as the Patriots are concerned. Dennard will get whatever he gets from the league, subject to the CBA (which everybody seems to gloss over). Why should the Patriots go beyond that?
To send a message to its players that criminal behavior may or may not be acceptable on other teams, but it is unacceptable if you wish to play for the NE Pats...I would hoipe every team would have the same policy, and also hope the NFL would make it mandatory, but the NFLPA may not allow that
I guess we're just not going to agree on this one. I don't think the Pats should hamstring themselves with policies more restrictive or harsher than other teams concerning off-field behavior. There is a CBA which limits what teams and the league can do and they should go by those guidelines.
Obviously, as in the case of AH, they can always release any player. But to say they need to start disciplining players more harshly than any other team in the league....I'm not on board.
By my interepretation of the rules, by the way, the most the NFL can do to Dennard if he's guilty of DUI is fine him two games pay. They can't suspend him because it's a substance abuse issue, not a personal conduct issue and that's the penalty for a first time DUI.
I suppose they could take the position that a parole violation (if that's found by the court) is a subsequent offense under the PC policy and suspend him 4 games for that, but I imagine the union would fight that on the grounds that the incident leading to that violation occurred before he was in the league.
per Reiss, it seems the Nebraska prosecutors are trying to revoke his probation. I would assume that would mean jail time immediately, right? If that is the case, should we assume the Pats then cut him immediately?
LINCOLN, Neb. -- Nebraska prosecutors are moving to have probation revoked for New England Patriots defensive back Alfonzo Dennard.
Online court records say an arraignment on the revocation motion is scheduled for July 31.
The 23-year-old Dennard was pulled over in Lincoln, Neb., early Thursday morning and is charged with first-offense drunken driving, refusing a chemical test and a traffic infraction.
It was Dennard's second arrest in 15 months. The former Cornhuskers star hasn't served a 30-day jail sentence for assaulting a police officer and resisting arrest outside a Lincoln bar on April 21, 2012. That term is scheduled to begin next March. He also was sentenced to two years of probation.
His attorney from the 2012 case didn't immediately return a call Tuesday from The Associated Press.
Dennard is required to report to the Patriots on Thursday, July 25, and the Patriots' first open practice is July 26. The team said in a statement last week that it was "extremely disappointed" to learn of his recent arrest and was working to gather more information on the incident.
Information from ESPNBoston.com's Mike Reiss and The Associated Press was used in this