I want Bill Belichick to draft Miles Burris

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    I want Bill Belichick to draft Miles Burris

    Wow... just fvkcen wow... I'm at a loss for words.

    I'll put it like this... I know it's a highlight video which is intended to show a player in the most positive light but, Miles Burris has the best motor of any player that I've seen on tape (and I've watched a lot of players on tape).  I mean, if you wanna see just one example, check out the play at the 1:51 mark of the link below... chasing that back down 60 yds down the field... just insane.

    This kid is the epitome of what I look for in a "football player".  His combo of instincts, closing speed, physicality, versatility and motor/want/desire are just off the charts, IMO.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtlONCH8jPA
     
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    Re: BB... Get me Miles Burris

    The dude is FAST on the field! Very instinctive. I dont think he has the size though to be anything more than a sub-package guy... He weighed-in at 236 at his pro day. If the pats could snag him somewhere on Day 3, I think he would be worth it
     
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    [QUOTE]The dude is FAST on the field! Very instinctive. I dont think he has the size though to be anything more than a sub-package guy... He weighed-in at 236 at his pro day. If the pats could snag him somewhere on Day 3, I think he would be worth it
    Posted by jumpshotking13[/QUOTE]

    Indeed down from 246 at the combine, so I'm curious to his playing weight.

    I like him a lot as a move guy in multiple schemes/formations, looks like a potential ST assassin as well.  

    Day 3 is accurate, I have him in Rd 4.
     
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    Re: Prospect Report: Miles Burris- LB- San Diego State

    Tedy Bruschi type? Great video of a guy that really moves pretty darn well. He made an absolutely amazing tackle against tcu in that video where the runner went left and he had to shift his weight and direction to his right. The level of competition is concerning, but he looks like a very safe 4th round selection for someone. I wish he was 6'5" and 250, but then again he'd be a top ten pick if that were the case.
     
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    Re: I want Bill Belichick to draft Miles Burris

    great find!!!

    two strengths he has...

    1) INSTINCT... he reads well, reacts well and has the athleticism to move quickly where he needs to/ how he needs to. 

    He showed several types but most important I believe is his instinct to not not get stuck in the arms of a blocker. He's really good at finding rushing lanes, and when he gets engaged he does not force the issue he just momentarily backs off to get a step of an advantage to let his motor go again.

    He showed really good ability to read misdirection plays. He perfectly diagnosed I don't know how many options and reverses on that video.

    That play at 1:51 also showed he is smart with angles. Every LB would pursue the ball carrier's path and get stuck behind slower pursuers. NOtice how he quickly read that he was going to get stuck behind slower players so he adjusted.

    2) DETERMINATION to catch the ball handler - I saw this last year with Sheard. This guy doesn't let the idea of being on the wrong side of the field stop him from going after the ball handler. He's went side to side when he he had to. This determination was also important on that 1:51 play.

    Occasionally he showed bull rush strength and ability. I believe he has the speed to match cover lot receivers, definitely TEs. 

    I think he could be a part of the solution to the pats' 3rd and long nightmares.
     
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    Re: I want Bill Belichick to draft Miles Burris

    MB, I'll ask the usual question followed by my usual observation. Can this kid stack and shed at the next level? And everyone looks good in a highlight reel. If you put him at 3-4 OLB can he get pressure or will he get eaten by TEs and tackles.
     
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    At 236 or 243, he is probably too light to play 3-4 olb, but not in a 4-3. I saw his pro day tape and he looked good. To me, it looks like is ideal playing weight would be about 240. 6'2", 240 is big enough to play 4-3 olb, especially given the kid put up 31 reps at 225. That is strong. As mb says and I agree, this kid could be perfect for that s/lb hybrid role or maybe even an olb in a 4-3 playing weak side. Like him in the 4th depending on what we do early on.
     
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    [QUOTE]At 236 or 243, he is probably too light to play 3-4 olb, but not in a 4-3. I saw his pro day tape and he looked good. To me, it looks like is ideal playing weight would be about 240. 6'2", 240 is big enough to play 4-3 olb, especially given the kid put up 31 reps at 225. That is strong. As mb says and I agree, this kid could be perfect for that s/lb hybrid role or maybe even an olb in a 4-3 playing weak side. Like him in the 4th depending on what we do early on.
    Posted by PatsLifer[/QUOTE]

    Jeez I don't know if he's fast enough for that hybrid type of roll that BB has implemented on occasion. That spot usually calls for a bigger safety type of guy - this kid would be the biggest we've ever had there. In my opinion if we ever switched to a 43 defense, he'd make a very good outside linebacker. There's nothing wrong with weighing 240 and being 6'2" as a traditional outside linebacker, plus he's already showed he can play along the line as a situational rusher.

    He kind of reminds me of Bruschi a bit. Bruschi was a great pass rusher in college and made a major switch to middle linebacker in the pros (like Fletcher). I don't know if it's just me, but this guy looks like Bruschi on the field when he was playing linebacker for us.
     
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    In response to "Re: I want Bill Belichick to draft Miles Burris": [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I want Bill Belichick to draft Miles Burris : Jeez I don't know if he's fast enough for that hybrid type of roll that BB has implemented on occasion. That spot usually calls for a bigger safety type of guy - this kid would be the biggest we've ever had there. In my opinion if we ever switched to a 43 defense, he'd make a very good outside linebacker. There's nothing wrong with weighing 240 and being 6'2" as a traditional outside linebacker, plus he's already showed he can play along the line as a situational rusher. He kind of reminds me of Bruschi a bit. Bruschi was a great pass rusher in college and made a major switch to middle linebacker in the pros (like Fletcher). I don't know if it's just me, but this guy looks like Bruschi on the field when he was playing linebacker for us. Posted by mthurl[/QUOTE] He's not Von miller fast, but to me he plays faster than his 4.62 suggests. To me he is football fast , a lot of it I think attributed to his good instincts. Anyhow, for a situational type of player, a 4th or 5th rounder sounds about right.
     
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    Re: I want Bill Belichick to draft Miles Burris

    Great video! Love the motor. Whoever ends up with this guy will be very happy
     
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    [QUOTE]In response to "Re: I want Bill Belichick to draft Miles Burris": He's not Von miller fast, but to me he plays faster than his 4.62 suggests. To me he is football fast , a lot of it I think attributed to his good instincts. Anyhow, for a situational type of player, a 4th or 5th rounder sounds about right.
    Posted by PatsLifer[/QUOTE]

    Damn he ran a 4.62? Maybe he won't go in the 5th after all - a 4.62 is plenty fast. It's funny how a tenth of a second can put you up an entire round or more. If this kid was running a 4.8 I'd say he'd end up in 5th round or above territory, but a time like that (plus the production and tape) puts him somewhere higher. 
     
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     I was very impressed with this guy's highlight video. He diagnoses the play very fast. He seems to take good angles to avoid being blocked squarely. His speed and agility look very good. And his motor is non stop. Here is the video from his pro day, at the end he does a back flip. There arent too many 240lb guys that are that agile.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6ClE-OnVn0
     
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    Re: I want Bill Belichick to draft Miles Burris

    He will be a late rounder.  6'2" and 238lbs he doesn't have the physical attributes that scouts look for.  Pats are going to have to do some trading around to get this guy as they are out after round 4.  But maybe the 4th round is where you take a guy like this.  I don't know as my drafting skills are slim and none.  Had a great pro day that's for sure.  That should help his stock.
     
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    [QUOTE]He will be a late rounder.  6'2" and 238lbs he doesn't have the physical attributes that scouts look for.  Pats are going to have to do some trading around to get this guy as they are out after round 4.  But maybe the 4th round is where you take a guy like this.  I don't know as my drafting skills are slim and none.  Had a great pro day that's for sure.  That should help his stock.
    Posted by garytx[/QUOTE]

    I'm not saying this kid will go high in the draft, because who really knows what the rest of his tape looks like, but why is being 6'2" and 238lbs (and running as good as any linebacker in most drafts) not the physical attributes scouts look for? That type of size is fine for a 43 defense (which plenty of teams still play either regularly or in sub packages). If the guy ate a plate of Chinese food he'd gain 4 pounds and be bigger than many starting linebackers playing in the nfl right now.

    Again I'm not saying he'll be anything in the NFL, I just don't get what scouts consider to be good sized sometimes. You see this in draft publications all the time too...so and so doesn't have good size. And then you see someone being called a good sized player with the exact same measurements as the guy they just said doesn't have good size. It's weird.
     
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    Hrm, well he's very fast, very smart, and has amazing instincts, which helps him sniff out all those gimmick college plays like wildcat and QB option but, one thing I noticed time and time again in the highlights was his hesitation to make contact at the line. When engaging with T he takes a stand back approach to see how the play develops, stutters to let a hole form in the B/C gap, dips wide often to rush around the edge, and keeps his arms locked to maintain distance instead of engaging. That works well with the level of competition he faced but in the pro's T's typically attack, you need to engage, and dipping wide will just have you rerouted and the QB steps up with the quicker tackles. He can't be afraid to engage at the next level. I think one reason he does that is because of lack of size but he doesn't look like an every down pass rusher to me. His best niche might be in coverage and against gimmick teams with the occasional delayed rush (ala Guyton type of role).

    If he's going to succeed as a pass rusher in the next level he's going to need to get bigger, learn to engage, and learn how to us his hands better. I wouldn't spend higher then a mid 5th on him because he's going to be a project.
     
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    Re: I want Bill Belichick to draft Miles Burris

    For all the guys here wanting to get Chris Rainey,you might want to checkout T.Y. Hilton as his college career is twice as good as Rainey's was,his time at his pro day was like 4.38 against the wind and 4.28 with the wind!!!He posted those numbers while still recuperating from an injury he suffered in his teams bowl game...his 3 cone was slower than I thought it would be 7.03, his shuttle time was 4.63, his splits were excellent 20 yrds in 2.5,ten yard dash in 1.5...He only returned 22 kickoffs this year for 633 yards ,and grabbed 59 balls for 882 and 5 tds and rushed for another 252 and 4 tds...This cat is a special player!
     
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    [QUOTE]Hrm, well he's very fast, very smart, and has amazing instincts, which helps him sniff out all those gimmick college plays like wildcat and QB option but, one thing I noticed time and time again in the highlights was his hesitation to make contact at the line. When engaging with T he takes a stand back approach to see how the play develops, stutters to let a hole form in the B/C gap, dips wide often to rush around the edge, and keeps his arms locked to maintain distance instead of engaging. That works well with the level of competition he faced but in the pro's T's typically attack, you need to engage, and dipping wide will just have you rerouted and the QB steps up with the quicker tackles. He can't be afraid to engage at the next level. I think one reason he does that is because of lack of size but he doesn't look like an every down pass rusher to me. His best niche might be in coverage and against gimmick teams with the occasional delayed rush (ala Guyton type of role). If he's going to succeed as a pass rusher in the next level he's going to need to get bigger, learn to engage, and learn how to us his hands better. I wouldn't spend higher then a mid 5th on him because he's going to be a project.
    Posted by PatsEng[/QUOTE]

    I think the kid is playing to his strengths.  In other words, I'm not sure it makes a ton of sense for him to attempt to bullrush an OT on the outside when he can dip/bend around the edge to get by him.  Kid is very good at keeping his pads clean, using his arms/hands/quickness to keep blockers away.  He plays a very aggressive position on their D, looks like his main task is to get up the field and/or sniff out the play and quickly flow/close on the football.  Doesn't look like he's really asked to take on OL/clog gaps/stack shed at the point very often... though due to his physicality and upper body strength, I think it's something he could do if asked.

    I do think he would present a team with some versatility as a move player that could line up all over the field and within multiple schemes.  I also think he has 4 down potential due to his ability to stay on the field as a cover guy or pass-rush specialist on 3rd down and certainly looks like a kid that could impact on coverage units etc.
     
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    [QUOTE]MB, I'll ask the usual question followed by my usual observation. Can this kid stack and shed at the next level? And everyone looks good in a highlight reel. If you put him at 3-4 OLB can he get pressure or will he get eaten by TEs and tackles.
    Posted by JohnHannahrulz[/QUOTE]

    Based on what I've seen, it doen't look like he's asked to take on OL/jam up run lanes, though that doensn't mean I don't think he can do it.  He's a very physical player with good upper body strength so I think he projects as a player with some take on ability, though his real value would be more as a Mayo type LB than a Spikes type, etc.
     
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    Re: I want Bill Belichick to draft Miles Burris

    I'll readily admit that he could come off the board in say Rd 5 or 6, the 4th round grade is where I think he could come off the board.

    I also love his "football speed"... he ran a 4.6 40 which shows good straighline speed for the position, but looks to have even better playing speed and and appears to be one of the faster players on the field, which is only increased when you consider his instincts and good angles to the football.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I want Bill Belichick to draft Miles Burris : I think the kid is playing to his strengths.  In other words, I'm not sure it makes a ton of sense for him to attempt to bullrush an OT on the outside when he can dip/bend around the edge to get by him.  Kid is very good at keeping his pads clean, using his arms/hands/quickness to keep blockers away.  He plays a very aggressive position on their D, looks like his main task is to get up the field and/or sniff out the play and quickly flow/close on the football.  Doesn't look like he's really asked to take on OL/clog gaps/stack shed at the point very often... though due to his physicality and upper body strength, I think it's something he could do if asked. I do think he would present a team with some versatility as a move player that could line up all over the field and within multiple schemes.  I also think he has 4 down potential due to his ability to stay on the field as a cover guy or pass-rush specialist on 3rd down and certainly looks like a kid that could impact on coverage units etc.
    Posted by mbeaulieu07[/QUOTE]

    But that is what I'm talking about MB. He might be playing up to his strengths and playing how has was asked to but at the next level how well with that translate. With more aggressive and athletic T's a simple dip around the corner, stutter, or keeping OT's at bay won't be effective. That's why I'm wondering how effective his style of play will be at the next level. As I said I think he'll need to add some weight, find a niche, or he's going to be a project that might take a little while
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I want Bill Belichick to draft Miles Burris : I'm not saying this kid will go high in the draft, because who really knows what the rest of his tape looks like, but why is being 6'2" and 238lbs (and running as good as any linebacker in most drafts) not the physical attributes scouts look for? That type of size is fine for a 43 defense (which plenty of teams still play either regularly or in sub packages). If the guy ate a plate of Chinese food he'd gain 4 pounds and be bigger than many starting linebackers playing in the nfl right now. Again I'm not saying he'll be anything in the NFL, I just don't get what scouts consider to be good sized sometimes. You see this in draft publications all the time too...so and so doesn't have good size. And then you see someone being called a good sized player with the exact same measurements as the guy they just said doesn't have good size. It's weird.
    Posted by mthurl[/QUOTE]

    Being an OLB I thought him on the short side which really didn't bother me as much as his weight.  That's pretty light.  If he puts on weight what does that do to his speed?  There's a reason why he is a late draft pick and I believe this is it. 
     
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    Someone get (email) this vid to BB's staff asap to at least spark interest!! Never know how much film may get over looked! I wonder what kind of competition UD plays. :/
     
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    While he's obviously too light (at this point) to play base 34 OLB, I think he projects well to a Mayo type LB inside in a 34 (more of a flow to the football type than a pure gap clogger like Spikes) and could also kick outside in 43 sets.  I also think there's some 3rd down value as either a pass rush specialist/blitzer or as a coverage backer.  I do think he'd eventually need to be atleast 240 though as thats the base weight at ILB that they generally employ.

    I also think he looks to be fast/athletic enough to be moved around down in the box as a LB/S type.

    Much like most projected Day 3 kids (and most all prospects for that matter), there are some questions to this kids game, though based on what I've seen from a toughness/physicality/motor perspective, he's the kinda kid that I'd be more prone to take a chance on.
     
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    I agree if he was available in the 5th I'd take a shot at the kid. At this point though, seeing the reactions from his video I think it would be worth tempering expectations for this kid. What we saw might be his ceiling or he might have only limited upside. Given that, I'd see him as a backup 34ILB, 43OLB and a situational pass rusher. Like Tarp in a way that could eventually break the starting line up (via Guyton) but imo I just see limited upside and being washed out of more plays then he makes. He'd best be used in a role that allows him to work in open space. A LB/S role as you mentioned in a dime or nickel might be his best fit
     
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