If no A-Hern, then shouldn't it be Tebow Time!!!! For Real!!!

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    If no A-Hern, then shouldn't it be Tebow Time!!!! For Real!!!

    Think of the irony in this. If AH becomes a casualty of this situation, AND NO I'M NOT CONVICTING HIM ALREADY, wouldn't it be an amazing turn of events if BB were to employ the guy on the team who has the most similar skill set to Aaron, big, strong, athletic guy who can run well with the ball and has good hands (an NCAA QB usually does have to have good hands and ball skills) by converting Tim to the Hybrid TE? Beyond the fact that you would be changing from the guy who could become the most notorious player in the NFL if murder charges were to be filed, then stick, to the guy recognized as the most outwardly GOD loving man in the league. Add into it that they made eachother NCAA National Champions with good guy slinging the ball to bad guy. Almost seems like it was intended to be this way. Tebow Time personafide? No? How's that for a small world story??????

     
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    Almost a modern day Bible story.......you know, "good seed" steps in to make amends for the "bad seed" kinda deal..........well, maybe..........

     
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    "The thing about quotes on the internet is you cannot confirm their validity." - Abraham Lincoln   I would give him a shot
     
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    Let me guess.   The "C" in "RallyC" stands for Contrarian?  Thought so.

     
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    In response to bald-predictions' comment:

     

    "The thing about quotes on the internet is you cannot confirm their validity." - Abraham Lincoln   I would give him a shot



    So, help me out.....is what you say considered a riddle or a conundrum, or both?

     
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    Let me guess.   The "C" in "RallyC" stands for Contrarian?  Thought so.

     



    No. I'm serious about this idea. As a matter of fact, I think it is a viable solution that they will exlplore based on the comparable skillsets and toughness. If, of course, A-Hern is no longer a factor for the team. Why do you see it as being contrary to conventional wisdom?

     

     
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    So lets replace one of the best pass catching TE's with slightly above average blocking ability with a player who:

    • Has never blocked sucessfully in his career
    • Has never caught many balls with a DB/LB hanging off him
    • Couldn't be converted to a TE with a team that badly needed a TE and never threw the ball more the a half dozen yards down the field at a time
    • Doesn't know how to engage a rusher then disengage to get open
    • Has never ran routes in his career
    • Has never had to block a blitzer in his life

    I think I'll take a guy who's actually played the position his entire life over someone who has 2 months to block for Tom Frigen Brady without getting him killed

    Even Jesus would be looking at Sudfeld and say "you got this one bro?"


    I swear by lil 10 pound bearded baby Jesus

     
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    So lets replace one of the best pass catching TE's with slightly above average blocking ability with a player who:

    • Has never blocked sucessfully in his career
    • Has never caught many balls with a DB/LB hanging off him
    • Couldn't be converted to a TE with a team that badly needed a TE and never threw the ball more the a half dozen yards down the field at a time
    • Doesn't know how to engage a rusher then disengage to get open
    • Has never ran routes in his career
    • Has never had to block a blitzer in his life

    I think I'll take a guy who's actually played the position his entire life over someone who has 2 months to block for Tom Frigen Brady without getting him killed

    Even Jesus would be looking at Sudfeld and say "you got this one bro?"


    I swear by lil 10 pound bearded baby Jesus

     


    Great athletes at 6'3, 250lbs with his kinda athleticism with proven speed, power, and agility to run with a purpose can make such a trasition, yes even in the NFL. Just because you've not seen him do it on your TV doesn't mean anything to anyone. What you'd rather have is of no real consequence to BB's decision. I see a big, strong, very agile, tough football player who can deliver a shot even as a ball carrier. From my perspective, Tebow could EASILY adapt if he was willing to do so, just like he could likely play full back in the league, if he was willing to do so. Don't be shocked if BB decides to do a little bit of all that I say here. But then again what do I know?????? Its not like I REALLY ever played pro football before..........Damn, who do I think I am anyway? I need to stop bragging, and lying and, well, I figured I'd save you and the rest the effort and do it for you!!! HA!

     

     
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    So lets replace one of the best pass catching TE's with slightly above average blocking ability with a player who:

    • Has never blocked sucessfully in his career
    • Has never caught many balls with a DB/LB hanging off him
    • Couldn't be converted to a TE with a team that badly needed a TE and never threw the ball more the a half dozen yards down the field at a time
    • Doesn't know how to engage a rusher then disengage to get open
    • Has never ran routes in his career
    • Has never had to block a blitzer in his life

    I think I'll take a guy who's actually played the position his entire life over someone who has 2 months to block for Tom Frigen Brady without getting him killed

    Even Jesus would be looking at Sudfeld and say "you got this one bro?"


    I swear by lil 10 pound bearded baby Jesus

     


    Great athletes at 6'3, 250lbs can make such a trasition, yes even in the NFL. Just because you've not seen him do it on your TV doesn't mean anything to anyone. What you'd rather have is of no real consequence to BB's decision. I see a big, strong, very agile, tough football player who can deliver a shot even as a ball carrier. From my perspective, Tebow could EASILY adapt if he was willing to do so, just like he could likely play full back in the league, if he was willing to do so. Don't be shocked if BB decides to do a little bit of all that I say here. But then again what do I know?????? Its not like I REALLY ever played pro football before..........Damn, who do I think I am anyway? I need to stop bragging, and lying and, well, I figured I'd save you and the rest the effort and do it for you!!! HA!

     



    yep you're right it happens all the time in the NFL... Have you played football before? Switching positions after a lifetime of doing it is rare and is usually a less drastic change (ie WR to CB, CB to S, S to coverage LB) heck it's rare and very difficult for QB's to even become  WRs and they don't have to worry about blocking. FB would be the easier switch for Tebow. A switch to TE is a major change and would take much, much longer then 2 months to happen. We are talking a full season+

     
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    So lets replace one of the best pass catching TE's with slightly above average blocking ability with a player who:

    • Has never blocked sucessfully in his career
    • Has never caught many balls with a DB/LB hanging off him
    • Couldn't be converted to a TE with a team that badly needed a TE and never threw the ball more the a half dozen yards down the field at a time
    • Doesn't know how to engage a rusher then disengage to get open
    • Has never ran routes in his career
    • Has never had to block a blitzer in his life

    I think I'll take a guy who's actually played the position his entire life over someone who has 2 months to block for Tom Frigen Brady without getting him killed

    Even Jesus would be looking at Sudfeld and say "you got this one bro?"


    I swear by lil 10 pound bearded baby Jesus

     


    Great athletes at 6'3, 250lbs can make such a trasition, yes even in the NFL. Just because you've not seen him do it on your TV doesn't mean anything to anyone. What you'd rather have is of no real consequence to BB's decision. I see a big, strong, very agile, tough football player who can deliver a shot even as a ball carrier. From my perspective, Tebow could EASILY adapt if he was willing to do so, just like he could likely play full back in the league, if he was willing to do so. Don't be shocked if BB decides to do a little bit of all that I say here. But then again what do I know?????? Its not like I REALLY ever played pro football before..........Damn, who do I think I am anyway? I need to stop bragging, and lying and, well, I figured I'd save you and the rest the effort and do it for you!!! HA!

     

     

     



    yep you're right it happens all the time in the NFL... Have you played football before? Switching positions after a lifetime of doing it is rare and is usually a less drastic change (ie WR to CB, CB to S, S to coverage LB) heck it's rare and very difficult for QB's to even become  WRs and they don't have to worry about blocking. FB would be the easier switch for Tebow. A switch to TE is a major change and would take much, much longer then 2 months to happen. We are talking a full season+

     

     

     


    Yes, I have. Yes I know it isn't common and is even very difficult. BUT Tebow despite his weirdness and antics is a former Heisman trophy winner. That in itself speaks to the athlete that he is. At UF, he did all of it. Ran, passed, BLOCKED like a FB, etc. Dude is bigger and stronger than A-Hern. They are about the same speed. I BET HE's smarter too. The only thing that would keep him from playing other positions in the NFL would be his stubborness to be a QB. Thats it. And if he decides to go that route, he won't be a Patriot for very long. Watch. Oh, and I was a HS RB, played SS/FS first two years of D-1, played CB last two years in D-1 and when I entered pro ball. Even played some WR in college when needed. But wait, don't listen to me. What do I know cuz.......I gotta be lying!

     

     
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    Yes, I have. Yes I know it isn't common and is even very difficult. BUT Tebow despite his weirdness and antics is a former Heisman trophy winner. That in itself speaks to the athlete that he is. At UF, he did all of it. Ran, passed, BLOCKED like a FB, etc. Dude is bigger and stronger than A-Hern. They are about the same speed. I BET HE's smarter too. The only thing that would keep him from playing other positions in the NFL would be his stubborness to be a QB. Thats it. And if he decides to go that route, he won't be a Patriot for very long. Watch. Oh, and I was a HS RB, played SS/FS first two years of D-1, played CB last two years in D-1 and when I entered pro ball. Even played some WR in college when needed. But wait, don't listen to me.......I gotta be lying!

     



    That's already a huge black mark that he can't play. Have you actually gone through the list of Heisman winners? Palmer might be the best of the list with the rest essentially never making more then a year or two in the league. Heisman winners usually don't make good NFL players. 

     

    He was also a personal protector and teams (Mia in particular) intentionally targetted him becuase he couldn't block.

    BTW I never said you were lying but you are talking about something pretty far out there to replace a pro-bowl caliber TE with someone who has never played the position before just because he's gifted athletically. Gholston was an athletic freak too. More then not just being gifted athletically doesn't mean you can play.

     
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    It's time to clean house in Foxboro, and according to some BB hasn't done a very good job checking people out, so I think Tebow needs to go.

    First, he was Hernandez's teammate in Gainesville. We can't have any further association with those Florida teams (see ya Spikes as well). 

    Also, does anybody trust those Christian guys? Come on, he's like one step removed from Timothy McVeigh. Next thing you know, there'll be a U-Haul full of fertilizer parked outside of the stadium. We can't take that chance.

    It's a new day in Foxboro and there needs to be zero tolerance for questionable guys like Tebow. 

     
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    Tebow at TE?  I certainly don't have your level of experience at playing the game, RallyC, but I just can't get to where that idea makes sense to me.  I'll grant you that Tebow has some level of athleticism and certainly is a football player but, as PatsEng points out, there's an awful lot that he would have to learn to do that he apparently has never done.

     
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    Yes, I have. Yes I know it isn't common and is even very difficult. BUT Tebow despite his weirdness and antics is a former Heisman trophy winner. That in itself speaks to the athlete that he is. At UF, he did all of it. Ran, passed, BLOCKED like a FB, etc. Dude is bigger and stronger than A-Hern. They are about the same speed. I BET HE's smarter too. The only thing that would keep him from playing other positions in the NFL would be his stubborness to be a QB. Thats it. And if he decides to go that route, he won't be a Patriot for very long. Watch. Oh, and I was a HS RB, played SS/FS first two years of D-1, played CB last two years in D-1 and when I entered pro ball. Even played some WR in college when needed. But wait, don't listen to me.......I gotta be lying!

     

     

     

     

     



    That's already a huge black mark that he can't play. Have you actually gone through the list of Heisman winners? Palmer might be the best of the list with the rest essentially never making more then a year or two in the league. Heisman winners usually don't make good NFL players. 

     

    He was also a personal protector and teams (Mia in particular) intentionally targetted him becuase he couldn't block.

    BTW I never said you were lying but you are talking about something pretty far out there to replace a pro-bowl caliber TE with someone who has never played the position before just because he's gifted athletically. Gholston was an athletic freak too. More then not just being gifted athletically doesn't mean you can play.

     


    Alright, man, my apoligies for being a sarcastic azz. Your pont is taken. I agree 100% with you that it is a tall task. But the bottom line is Tebow may very well be the very best all around football player that we have seen in decades. NO not the best at any one thing, but the best all around athlete as in size, power, agility, physicality, instincts, work, and dedication to his craft. I am not saying that he is the answer. I am saying that Tim Tebow is the guy in the NFL right now who has more upside at other positions, and is likely to perform at high levels at them, than any other player in the league right now. If anyone can convert to the hybrid TE, he can, and likely will be asked to try. As for being the personal protector......he was put there to function as a decoy and to force the D to prepare and always defend for the fake. In his mind, he is a QB wearing a red shirt and nobody is supposed to touch him. His lack of parctice at that task is the only reason he wasn't a great blocker, so far. But I firmly believe that Tebow could perform at a level comparable to A-Hern given the time, training, and desire. He is what the Heismann was intended to recognize, the nation's BEST FOOTBALL PLAYER. Most other winers are specialists at their particular positions. I'm not a big Tebow fan, but I do recognize his freakish athletic abilities that are most relevant to the game he now plays.

     

     
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    LMAO.  The silver lining to the Tebow Cloud is that due to current circumstance, he may be able to fill in for the absence of Hernandez; if it goes down that road.

    My suggestion; the Patriots ought to buy a Juggs machine and overnight it to Timmy. He has A LOT of work to do on his receiving/catching skills.

     
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    Tebow at TE?  I certainly don't have your level of experience at playing the game, RallyC, but I just can't get to where that idea makes sense to me.  I'll grant you that Tebow has some level of athleticism and certainly is a football player but, as PatsEng points out, there's an awful lot that he would have to learn to do that he apparently has never done.

     



    ATJ, agreed, a tall task. BUT he's bigger, stronger, runs harder with the ball, and is no doubt smarter than A-Hern. He is also well centered for his own mental stability sake. I firmly believe that Tebow, a former Heismann trophy winner who best exemplifies and represents the original  intent of the award, has more than enough talent, skill and ability to play that position at the NFL level. He wasn't the best QB when he won the award. He was actually the best football player and it was emphasized as such when he won it because it wasn't solely about his QB play. If he takes on the challenge to do it and wants it, he will be great at it. My educated guess is none the less, still only a guess............

     

     
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    LMAO.  The silver lining to the Tebow Cloud is that due to current circumstance, he may be able to fill in for the absence of Hernandez; if it goes down that road.

    My suggestion; the Patriots ought to buy a Juggs machine and overnight it to Timmy. He has A LOT of work to do on his receiving/catching skills.


    No doubt!

     
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    Tebow is considered athletic for a QB, by other positions, he"s vastly below average. If you think he can replace Hern, you're mental.

    Aaron Dobson # 17; Tom Brady's new best friend.

     
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    Tebow is considered athletic for a QB, by other positions, he"s vastly below average. If you think he can replace Hern, you're mental.

    Aaron Dobson # 17; Tom Brady's new best friend.

     


    He wasn't even close to being the best QB in the country when he won the Heismann Trophy as it was clearly for being the best FOOTBALL PLAYER in the NCAA. You don't have a clue as to what you are talking about. Mental? As for referencing "Athletic for a QB" please see Mike Vic, RG-3, Russell Smith, Andrew Luck, etc. Tebow isn't close to them for being 
    "Athletic for a QB". In my assessment Tebow is a better overall athlete than A-Hern.  Ironically, growing up, QBs normally start with being one of the best ahletes in their neighborhoods. You obviously have zero basis for your statement "Mental". Good try though.......

     

     
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    WAIT, I thought Welker went to the Broncos!!!!

     

     
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    So lets replace one of the best pass catching TE's with slightly above average blocking ability with a player who:

    • Has never blocked sucessfully in his career
    • Has never caught many balls with a DB/LB hanging off him
    • Couldn't be converted to a TE with a team that badly needed a TE and never threw the ball more the a half dozen yards down the field at a time
    • Doesn't know how to engage a rusher then disengage to get open
    • Has never ran routes in his career
    • Has never had to block a blitzer in his life

    I think I'll take a guy who's actually played the position his entire life over someone who has 2 months to block for Tom Frigen Brady without getting him killed

    Even Jesus would be looking at Sudfeld and say "you got this one bro?"


    I swear by lil 10 pound bearded baby Jesus

     


    Great athletes at 6'3, 250lbs with his kinda athleticism with proven speed, power, and agility to run with a purpose can make such a trasition, yes even in the NFL. Just because you've not seen him do it on your TV doesn't mean anything to anyone. What you'd rather have is of no real consequence to BB's decision. I see a big, strong, very agile, tough football player who can deliver a shot even as a ball carrier. From my perspective, Tebow could EASILY adapt if he was willing to do so, just like he could likely play full back in the league, if he was willing to do so. Don't be shocked if BB decides to do a little bit of all that I say here. But then again what do I know?????? Its not like I REALLY ever played pro football before..........Damn, who do I think I am anyway? I need to stop bragging, and lying and, well, I figured I'd save you and the rest the effort and do it for you!!! HA!

     



    shouldn't you be at NORAD or The Pentagon saving the world or something?

     
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    WAIT, I thought Welker went to the Broncos!!!!

     




    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

     
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    So lets replace one of the best pass catching TE's with slightly above average blocking ability with a player who:

    • Has never blocked sucessfully in his career
    • Has never caught many balls with a DB/LB hanging off him
    • Couldn't be converted to a TE with a team that badly needed a TE and never threw the ball more the a half dozen yards down the field at a time
    • Doesn't know how to engage a rusher then disengage to get open
    • Has never ran routes in his career
    • Has never had to block a blitzer in his life

    I think I'll take a guy who's actually played the position his entire life over someone who has 2 months to block for Tom Frigen Brady without getting him killed

    Even Jesus would be looking at Sudfeld and say "you got this one bro?"


    I swear by lil 10 pound bearded baby Jesus



    Lol! +1!

     
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    Appreciate you're starting an interesting thread.

     

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