If you could trade meriweather
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If you could trade meriweather
posted at 3/25/2010 3:04 AM EDT
- N464Mex-N460A
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for a first round pick would you? -
Re: If you could trade meriweather
posted at 3/25/2010 6:30 AM EDT
- timsandra
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In Response to If you could trade meriweather:for a first round pick would you?
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Re: If you could trade meriweather
posted at 3/25/2010 7:36 AM EDT
- Pats7393
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Yes quicker than I wrote this. -
Re: If you could trade meriweather
posted at 3/25/2010 7:48 AM EDT
- natesubs
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no he knows our system and he is just starting to reach his potential. -
Re: If you could trade meriweather
posted at 3/25/2010 7:54 AM EDT
- 49Patriots
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No, he has the potential to be an Ed Reed type of player. He's a 1st round pick, so where is the value in that? We are trading a proven NFL 1st rounder for a maybe NFL 1st rounder. Bad trade. I would only trade him for two 1st round picks. -
Re: If you could trade meriweather
posted at 3/25/2010 8:04 AM EDT
- datdude401
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Of Course. -
Re: If you could trade meriweather
posted at 3/25/2010 8:07 AM EDT
- patsfaninsatx
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Absolutely! -
Re: If you could trade meriweather
posted at 3/25/2010 8:09 AM EDT
- siestafiesta
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"No, he has the potential to be an Ed Reed type of player"
Sorry but it's a joke to even mention Merriweather and Ed Reed in the same sentence. The only similarities are they are safeties who played college at Miami. That's not meant as a big knock on Merriweather, he just doesn't warrant that comparison to a future hall of famer. -
Re: If you could trade meriweather
posted at 3/25/2010 8:14 AM EDT
- jcour382
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people tout his ability but I have mixed feelings on that...he has bad hands for a d back so he will never be another ed reed...and reed anticpates well based on film study and experience and is always in the right spot...meriweather not so much...even with all those negatives he is not so bad we need to completely start over... so no -
Re: If you could trade meriweather
posted at 3/25/2010 8:21 AM EDT
- 123meg
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Re: If you could trade meriweather
posted at 3/25/2010 8:35 AM EDT
- DaBlade
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as offered... No, but if the offer was for more then a 1st I would listen. I don't think he is the next Ed Reed or anything but I think this is the year that you see what he will be. He has suposidly rededicated himself and uses Reed's blueprint for working out and getting better. I guess it would take a 1st and a third or better for me to consider it. -
Re: If you could trade meriweather
posted at 3/25/2010 8:44 AM EDT
- BubbaInHawaii
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I think it's a little to early to trade him, altho this upcoming season is critical for him to perform well.
He's about the same height and weight as Reed, but he's giving away in both height and weight to the likes of Rodney Harrison - so, if anyone thinks he can just step into Harrison's shoes - I think you would be mistaken.
Harrison was able to take on bigger guys vs. run and w/ TEs when asked to step up into the box. Unless Meriweather gained 20 lbs of muscle mass w/o reducing his speed - I don't think he'll do as well as Harrison.
Although it's a different position, remember it took Asante Samuel about 3-4 seasons before the INTs started rolling in. Plus, it helps to have a decent pass rush to force the QB into making mistakes w/ throws.
Meriweather did look really, really bad vs. NO last season. We'll see how he does this year. -
Re: If you could trade meriweather
posted at 3/25/2010 8:47 AM EDT
- croc
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Absolutely not. -
Re: If you could trade meriweather
posted at 3/25/2010 9:00 AM EDT
- russgriswold
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I wouldn't. 2 years in to the role at Safety? No. Pro Bowler in waiting. So is Bodden at 28 at CB. I would not risk trading commodities while rebuilding. -
Re: If you could trade meriweather
posted at 3/25/2010 9:04 AM EDT
- artielang
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uch just stop all this meriweather stuff already. nobody is offering a one for him and he's not going anywhere so its a silly discussion. he's not ed reed but neither is anyone else. but he is better than any other free safety we've had around here lately...just remember the days of tebucky jones, big play-no tackle willie clay, terry ray, corwin brown...these were not exactly ed reed either. and they generally had the benefit of playing with at least one high level corner (ty law) and SS (lawyer in his prime or rodney) and a team with a good pass rush, a d line that couldnt be run on, and great leadership. meriweather doesnt have any of that now. sure he missed some plays and i think he will probably always be frustrating at times. but he's fast and strong and if the rest of the defense develops around him (butler, chung, some as yet unknown linebackers), everything will be ok. -
Re: If you could trade meriweather
posted at 3/25/2010 9:19 AM EDT
- russgriswold
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I agree. People seem to forget that: 1. He was misused due to a logjam at Safety his rookie year. 2. The defensive pass rush was poor last year. He does need to work on tackling and angles, but Asante Samuel needed to work on his catching ability before he started grabbing 7-10 INts per year too. The bottom line is progression. These guys should progress and if you see that, you have a successful draft pick. He tried to do too much too fast, in my opinion, but I'll bet money he improves his tackling and he has a GREAT year this year. He'll figure it out. I also like Chung and like the idea of Chung being worked in so those two competitive young Safeties can have a nice friendly SS/FS competition for years to come. -
Re: If you could trade meriweather
posted at 3/25/2010 9:29 AM EDT
- PatsNut5480
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I'm torn on this one. I think Meriweather has a ton of talent but he is so inconsistent. He'll have a great game and come back the next week and have a dud. He has all the skills you want in a safety but does he have it upstairs? I don't think it will happen but if someone offered a first and something else I would think long and hard about it. I am very high on Pat Chung and think he'll be a very good strong safety. James Sanders came on strong at the end of the year and held the backfield together. McGowan is a solid backup. So it's not like we're short on safeties. I don't think it will happen but maybe when is contract is coming to an end you might see some movement. -
Re: If you could trade meriweather
posted at 3/25/2010 9:43 AM EDT
- btownteamsrking
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once again, im in the minority here.
I believe Meriweather is progressing like a normal NFL star does. no i wouldnt trade him -
Re: If you could trade meriweather
posted at 3/25/2010 9:47 AM EDT
- Boston-kyle
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Meriweathers play is give and take. you enjoy some big hits and some flash of playmaking then hes youre man. If you enjoy poor field positioning and taking huge risks that are 50/50 chances, then hes youre man too.
1st round pick could be anything... If it meant Eric Berry I would do it in a heart beat. I dont think Sanders or McGowan should be starters. Theyre outstanding backups and role players. -
Re: If you could trade meriweather
posted at 3/25/2010 9:53 AM EDT
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First and foremost he was an alternate Pro Bowler this year,secondly he is being played at the wrong position as a SS when in fact he's a prototype FS,if you noticed his game improved dramatically when James Sanders was moved back into the SS position and he was returned to the FS spot. I would trade any player not named Brady for the right price! The question is what his value is on the trade market,if you can get a first round pick this year and a fourth round pick in either this or next years draft, you would have too seriously consider it. The thing about an additional first round pick this year is the quality of player who will be available and I'm not really a guy who thinks a draft choice is going to come in and start from day one,but this years crop is a very talented crop of rookies,with that said the Patriots will be movers on Draft day or days this year. -
Re: If you could trade meriweather
posted at 3/25/2010 9:54 AM EDT
- Boston-kyle
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For now I wouldnt trade him just cuz you dont know the progress of Chung. And you dont know how meriweather will progress in 2010. Is he still going to get better or will he plateau as a player.
Playing football aside - I am however very upset at Meriweathers immature attitude in the locker room. Think he needs to grow up and start being a patriot.
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Re: If you could trade meriweather
posted at 3/25/2010 10:17 AM EDT
- Cyberknot
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If he wasn't improving-yes, but he has continued to improve. I would not make the trade. It's only been two seasons. -
Re: If you could trade meriweather
posted at 3/25/2010 10:50 AM EDT
- PatsEng
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Depends on where the pick is. Top 15 I'm listening, top 10 done deal, anything else for just a first? yeah no thank you. He's improved every year he's player and imo he's going to be a pro-bowler. Any pick not in the first 15 is to much of a gamble to give up a young, pro-bowl caliber player. -
Re: If you could trade meriweather
posted at 3/25/2010 10:57 AM EDT
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In Response to Re: If you could trade meriweather:For now I wouldnt trade him just cuz you dont know the progress of Chung. And you dont know how meriweather will progress in 2010. Is he still going to get better or will he plateau as a player. Playing football aside - I am however very upset at Meriweathers immature attitude in the locker room. Think he needs to grow up and start being a patriot.Fair complaint there, too, but I think he will mature and become more of a leader. He shows signs of all the right things in that direction even if he isn't Rodney Harrison Vol II (yet).
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Re: If you could trade meriweather
posted at 3/25/2010 11:06 AM EDT
- Low-FB-IQ
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If you are telling me I can get Berry or Earl Thomas maybe. If not, no.Pro Football Focus had him rated as the 7th best safety in the league last year out of all(both SS and FS) safeties last season.I wish he would stop going for all the kill shots but that's what so many of the DB's do now.Half the time they either mis the guy or just bounce off anyway. What ever happened to just keeping your head up and wrapping the guy up.