Re: Im tired of all the WR and DB talk...WE NEED PRESSURE (PASS RUSHERS THAT IS)
posted at 2/19/2011 1:31 PM EST
In Response to Re: Im tired of all the WR and DB talk...WE NEED PRESSURE (PASS RUSHERS THAT IS)
[QUOTE]I don't understand some peoples fixation on the tall, fast WR. First off, where are you going to get him? Second, don't you realize they traded that tall, fast WR in October and were better without him? That has to factor in the debate. Third, how many tall, fast WR's were on the roster when they won three superbowls? NONE. Unless you want to count Fred Coleman. PS, you're better than this. Stop listening to the Chris Carter's of the world that probably only watched one pats game last year (their playoff loss to the jets). In my mind WR couldn't be less of a need. In Response to Re: Im tired of all the WR and DB talk...WE NEED PRESSURE (PASS RUSHERS THAT IS) :
Posted by Rockdog1293000[/QUOTE]
Hey Rock . . . here's my concern after watching the Pats last year. Our offense was often great, but there were times all season when it stalled out. I think the problem was that we were far too dependent on our (excellent) short passing game. We were best when we got a decent showing from BJGE and the under-center running game to complement the short passing game. That gave us just enough diversity to keep defenses guessing. I'd like to see the Pats improve their offense primarily by getting better at the run. That means some more nasty run blockers on the line and a top-level running back. (I like BJGE, but I don't think he has the speed, especially to the outside, to really be a dominant threat that defenses have to game plan against.) The other way to diversify the offense, though, is to have more threats in the passing game downfield or on the edges. We just don't have those now. Yes, we didn't have big guys in the super bowl teams, but we had stronger running games and Patten and Givens gave us more than Tate does at that x position. If you watch the Packers with Driver and Jennings and Jones, you see what real downfield receiving threats can do for an offense.
As far as Moss, he was just not playing well--he wasn't consistently getting open, he was dropping balls, and sometimes he seemed to have his head out of the game. That started in 2009, really. I think getting rid of Moss improved the team because he wasn't very consistent and Brady--hoping for the best--kept throwing to him. Look at the Jets game in week 2--Moss made a great catch against Revis, but he was just awful on that Cromartie interception. Moss was becoming a liability. That doesn't mean, however, that having a good outside threat is unnecessary. I think this team would be greatly improved by a real x receiver or even two.
One thing I am sure of, though, is if we don't diversify the offense we're going to remain vulnerable against teams like the Jets who can stop our short passing game. They've done that three times now (playoff, and Meadowlands games in 2010 and 2009). We can't go into 2011 still being vulnerable in that way. We need either a strong running game or a more potent deep game to complement Welker and the TEs or we're going to struggle at times against certain defenses. If our defense is shut down (like it was in 2003 and 2004) maybe we still can win those games. But if our defense is still developing, then we'll need more weapons in the offense than just TEs and slot receivers.