Imagine this next season Llyod, Eldeman, Gronk, Hernandez, Demps, Bodden, Ridley, and maybe WW. If Demps has any pass catching ability line him up wide and let him fly. He'll be on ST's returning kicks, and in the backfield for screen passes and sweeps....should be something to see
Imagine this offense with a healthy Demps
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Imagine this offense with a healthy Demps
posted at 10/11/2012 2:28 PM EDT
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Re: Imagine this offense with a healthy Demps
posted at 10/11/2012 2:49 PM EDT
In response to Mighty2013's comment:
Pardon my ignorance but who is Demps?
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Re: Imagine this offense with a healthy Demps
posted at 10/11/2012 2:52 PM EDT
Scary is all I can say. Every time he just steps on to the field it will cause confusion among the defenses, they will have to adjust to account for Demps at all times.
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Re: Imagine this offense with a healthy Demps
posted at 10/11/2012 2:57 PM EDT
I'd like to say scary but we still have zero clue who demps will become as a player in the regular season. I'm hoping Demps is working on catching the ball on IR and they convert him to a wideout. Imagine trying to keep up with him as a CB it would also cut down on the wear and tear which is important given his size. Then you could have him on reverses (which would be deadly) and in an open backfield were he motions back for a draw play with the opponents D in a dime package. I think I just drooled a bit
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Re: Imagine this offense with a healthy Demps
posted at 10/11/2012 2:58 PM EDT
i dont know if he is going to be anything more than a special teams player....he is really really fast though, so thats obviously a plus.
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Re: Imagine this offense with a healthy Demps
posted at 10/11/2012 3:22 PM EDT
Well I don't think we started a drive beyound the 25 on a kickoff through 5 games yet.
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Re: Imagine this offense with a healthy Demps
posted at 10/11/2012 3:26 PM EDT
In response to tcal2-'s comment:
Well I don't think we started a drive beyound the 25 on a kickoff through 5 games yet.
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Re: Imagine this offense with a healthy Demps
posted at 10/11/2012 3:40 PM EDT
DMC has 6 returns Ave = 23.5 with a long of 28.
Slater 1 for 19
Gronk 1 for zero (on sides kick)
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Re: Imagine this offense with a healthy Demps
posted at 10/11/2012 3:44 PM EDT
In response to tcal2-'s comment:
DMC has 6 returns Ave = 23.5 with a long of 28.
Slater 1 for 19
Gronk 1 for zero (on sides kick)
There has to be some missing. That accounts for 8 kick offs. They are sure to get 1 a game so right there are you trying to say all but 3 kickoffs when an opponent scored were touchbacks? That would mean there were more touchbacks then returns which just doesn't sound right for some reason -
Re: Imagine this offense with a healthy Demps
posted at 10/11/2012 3:52 PM EDT
In response to tcal2-'s comment:
Well I don't think we started a drive beyound the 25 on a kickoff through 5 games yet.
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Re: Imagine this offense with a healthy Demps
posted at 10/11/2012 3:56 PM EDT
I love that on the new Madden he can be put out as a wide receiver, is freaky fast and catches everything thrown at him... he'll have to show that ability in the real world but it's a crazy element to add to the Madden Pats.
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Re: Imagine this offense with a healthy Demps
posted at 10/11/2012 4:44 PM EDT
I'd line him up wide and have him run a cb all over the field for the first halfand then sub him out for some fresh legs. We could own the second half.
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Re: Imagine this offense with a healthy Demps
posted at 10/12/2012 1:24 AM EDT
Id say Dexter McCluster type impact is what we should all hope for (WR/RB/KR)
Percy Harvin 2.0 is what I will dream about. Prob won't happen though.
Hopefully he's taking advantage of this "offseason"...
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Re: Imagine this offense with a healthy Demps
posted at 10/12/2012 2:15 AM EDT
In response to harleyroadking12's comment:
Imagine this next season Llyod, Eldeman, Gronk, Hernandez, Demps, Bodden, Ridley, and maybe WW. If Demps has any pass catching ability line him up wide and let him fly. He'll be on ST's returning kicks, and in the backfield for screen passes and sweeps....should be something to see
exactly harley! my brain already was when we signed him.sucks not having him be a compliment to this team this year.
still wonder if bb wasnt happy to put him on ir this year and earn time/exp befroe he plays for us.
right wehn he got ired, he said he was fine (my translation hurt not injured. play before too long)
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Re: Imagine this offense with a healthy Demps
posted at 10/12/2012 2:17 AM EDT
In response to PatsEng's comment:
I'd like to say scary but we still have zero clue who demps will become as a player in the regular season. I'm hoping Demps is working on catching the ball on IR and they convert him to a wideout. Imagine trying to keep up with him as a CB it would also cut down on the wear and tear which is important given his size. Then you could have him on reverses (which would be deadly) and in an open backfield were he motions back for a draw play with the opponents D in a dime package. I think I just drooled a bit
agreed on better not running him up the middle. at fla he lined up as rb and receiver. as well as everywhere else teh ycould get him the ball. -
Re: Imagine this offense with a healthy Demps
posted at 10/12/2012 2:18 AM EDT
In response to sporter81's comment:
In response to tcal2-'s comment:
Well I don't think we started a drive beyound the 25 on a kickoff through 5 games yet.
Yes that's another good point. We have a very bad kick return game.
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Re: Imagine this offense with a healthy Demps
posted at 10/12/2012 2:20 AM EDT
In response to dapats1281's comment:
Id say Dexter McCluster type impact is what we should all hope for (WR/RB/KR)
Percy Harvin 2.0 is what I will dream about. Prob won't happen though.
Hopefully he's taking advantage of this "offseason"...
can you belive we just missed on gettign harvin...one of the best off players in the nfl.if demps is 75-80% of that... oh man....
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Re: Imagine this offense with a healthy Demps
posted at 10/12/2012 5:55 AM EDT
yes, we've been missing a weapon on special teams for years. Would have been kewl to see someone regularly gain more than 2 yards on kickoffs and punt returns....lol
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Re: Imagine this offense with a healthy Demps
posted at 10/12/2012 8:36 AM EDT
We saw two RBs who were drafted by the Pats with a lot of legitimate college experience; Ridley and Vereen, ride the bench most of their rookie seasons.
Demps was more raw than them.
I can't imagine he would have even seen the field with the offense. Kickoffs? Sure. I see no way he would have supplanted Woodhead as a rookie.
Being IRed might be the best thing for him, as he can be around the team, and try to learn what it takes to be a RB first, and one in the NFL second. Then he can wrap his head around learning the offense. MAYBE then, he gets on the field for a few plays a game.
If he hadn't gone to the Olympics, he was regarded at most as a 4th round pick, and strictly for his ST ability/potential.
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Re: Imagine this offense with a healthy Demps
posted at 10/12/2012 10:01 AM EDT
In response to tcal2-'s comment:
Well I don't think we started a drive beyound the 25 on a kickoff through 5 games yet.
Point taken which is our KR/PReturners don't scare anyone. This has been a sore spot for some time. Dewill can add the necessary speed and elusiveness this deserves, and we need. -
Re: Imagine this offense with a healthy Demps
posted at 10/12/2012 2:05 PM EDT
In response to ma6dragon9's comment:
We saw two RBs who were drafted by the Pats with a lot of legitimate college experience; Ridley and Vereen, ride the bench most of their rookie seasons.
Demps was more raw than them.
I can't imagine he would have even seen the field with the offense. Kickoffs? Sure. I see no way he would have supplanted Woodhead as a rookie.
Being IRed might be the best thing for him, as he can be around the team, and try to learn what it takes to be a RB first, and one in the NFL second. Then he can wrap his head around learning the offense. MAYBE then, he gets on the field for a few plays a game.
If he hadn't gone to the Olympics, he was regarded at most as a 4th round pick, and strictly for his ST ability/potential.
How often did Hester see the field with the offense? Not much until maybe the past year and a half.I think folks are optimistic about having a player with olympic-type sprinting speed possibly being able to return the ball all the way for a TD if given decent blocking and an iotas worth of daylight. If he ended up producing half of Hester's productivity....
ahhh, the dreams we dream
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Re: Imagine this offense with a healthy Demps
posted at 10/12/2012 2:14 PM EDT
If WW walks at the end of the season then Demps may be the slot guy in the future. At Florida is was pretty good as a receiver out of the back field but given his speed he was not the homerun hitter you would have expected on kickoff returns. With his size I do not see the Pats over using this guy if they want to keep him around for a full season!
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Re: Imagine this offense with a healthy Demps
posted at 10/12/2012 2:38 PM EDT
My only concern with Demps is that's he's only 5'7", 175 lbs. Yeah, I know, Woodhead but at that size he's limited to the return game or being a wideout that simply goes deep. Doubt he has anything like Welker's shiftiness. Don't want to appear negative but I don't think it's automatic that this guy will be an impact wideout.
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Re: Imagine this offense with a healthy Demps
posted at 10/12/2012 2:56 PM EDT
In response to ATJ's comment:
My only concern with Demps is that's he's only 5'7", 175 lbs. Yeah, I know, Woodhead but at that size he's limited to the return game or being a wideout that simply goes deep. Doubt he has anything like Welker's shiftiness. Don't want to appear negative but I don't think it's automatic that this guy will be an impact wideout.
Agree with that, I thought it was funny Madden gave him that much juice and make him a great deep threat in the game, but in reality he has done nothing to date.