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    Incompetent Ravens killed their own clock

    posted at 1/25/2012 8:30 AM EST

    Tom Brady scored the come-from-behind, game winning touchdown with 11:29 remaining in the 4th quarter.  After that the Pats held the ball for maybe a minute and half the rest of the game.  That means the incompetent Ravens killed the final 10:00 of the game with their inept, time consuming, non-scoring offense.  And the media is spinning this as Flacco outperforming Brady.  What a joke.
     

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    Re: Incompetent Ravens killed their own clock

    posted at 1/25/2012 8:55 AM EST

    This is very true Mighty. The Ravens clock management was beyond poor. I didn't realize the Pats only had the ball for that long after the score. That's kind of scary if you think about it. One 1st down might have ended the game and they couldn't get one 1st down to seal it. That's something that needs to improve and I believe will improve against the Giants. If you leave the door open like we did against the Ravens the Giants will walk through it
     

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    Re: Incompetent Ravens killed their own clock

    posted at 1/25/2012 8:57 AM EST

    How did 4th down conversions compare?

    Sacked for negative yardage? other negatve yardage plays

    3rd down conversions?  Pats only needed 11, Ravens needed 17 and only converted 9.

    Punts? we only had 2

    haven't heard much about these stats



     

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    Re: Incompetent Ravens killed their own clock

    posted at 1/25/2012 9:00 AM EST

    Just goes to show why time of possession is OVERRATED.
     

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    Re: Incompetent Ravens killed their own clock

    posted at 1/25/2012 9:06 AM EST

    alot of people say brady sucked...(brady himself) yes he missed a couple of throws and he threw two picks...   but I watched the game again last night...

    and brady got the job done... i thought the picks were just two great athletic plays by the dbacks... sometimes you have t give credit to the other side...
     

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    Re: Incompetent Ravens killed their own clock

    posted at 1/25/2012 9:08 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Incompetent Ravens killed their own clock:
    Just goes to show why time of possession is OVERRATED.
    Posted by mighty2012


    I wouldn't say that mighty. If on our last drive we got a 1st and held the ball for 2 more mins would the Pats not have won?

    If the Pats had an extra min before the end of the half would they have still knelt the ball?

    ToP means you have more opportunities to score the ball and your opponent has less opportunities to score. Given that the Ravens and Den weren't quick striking O's that ToP is very important to them in order to score so if we dominated ToP we are in fact limiting their O.

    Against quick striking opponents it might be overrated but against teams that take long time consuming drives in order to put points on the board ToP can make a huge difference
     

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    Re: Incompetent Ravens killed their own clock

    posted at 1/25/2012 9:12 AM EST

    Funny thing is the Ravens knew how bad their offense was - look at how they played Houston the week before.  They should have been trying to score as quickly as possible.  No wonder they've only beaten Brady once in his career.
     

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    Re: Incompetent Ravens killed their own clock

    posted at 1/25/2012 9:46 AM EST

    The Pats would have killed a lot more clock if they would just run the ball! They had shown success with it and quite honestly did not need to get much yardage just run some time off the clock. This happened in the regular season game against the Giants. When the Pats were trying to score to go ahead late in the 4th quarter I was watching the game with my buddy and kept saying "They have to run here to get some time off the clock." The Pats gave Eli too much time to come back and even one run play of 0 yards would have run 40 seconds off the clock and the Pats would have won. So the Pats have not been clock managing very well either!
     

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    Re: Incompetent Ravens killed their own clock

    posted at 1/25/2012 11:11 AM EST

    All this stuff about how Flacco outplayed Brady -- I don't know if it's nonsense, but I do know that for whatever reason, that offense simply cannot score. You give them +2 in turnovers and time of possesion in a game and they still come up short.  They only scored 20 points against the Texans and 20 points against us.  It just seems to be their ceiling.  Maybe they're just a bunch of head-cases.
     

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    Re: Incompetent Ravens killed their own clock

    posted at 1/25/2012 11:13 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Incompetent Ravens killed their own clock:
    This is very true Mighty. The Ravens clock management was beyond poor. I didn't realize the Pats only had the ball for that long after the score. That's kind of scary if you think about it. One 1st down might have ended the game and they couldn't get one 1st down to seal it. That's something that needs to improve and I believe will improve against the Giants. If you leave the door open like we did against the Ravens the Giants will walk through it
    Posted by PatsEng


    The Gints ARE NOT better than Baltenbored.  No way.
     

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    Re: Incompetent Ravens killed their own clock

    posted at 1/25/2012 11:17 AM EST

    This was probably Flacco's best game of his career.  He is a bum.  If it wasn't for the defense he would not be playing.
     

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    Re: Incompetent Ravens killed their own clock

    posted at 1/25/2012 11:49 AM EST

    Baltimore's offense is mediocre. Their defense is elite. This is not news. 

    NE hasn't, however, faced an offense as good as NJ's in weeks. So there is a test there. Thankfully I think NJ's defense is also a notch beneath the Ravens, and if we go by the early part of the season, they have the potential to play a lot worse. 

    Different weeks, different games.
     

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    Re: Incompetent Ravens killed their own clock

    posted at 1/25/2012 12:42 PM EST

    My opinion:  Poor sideline management, as much as anything else, lost that game for the Ravens.  If the kicker wasn't ready to go in when the kicking team went on the field then that's as much the fault of the special teams coach as it is the kicker.  By most accounts, Cundiff shanked that kick because he had to rush it.  That is but one example of how lack of attention to EVERY detail can lose a game.  Would the Ravens have won had they made the FG and tied the game?  We'll never know because that is but one play of many that anyone can point to that contributed to their loss.

     

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    Re: Incompetent Ravens killed their own clock

    posted at 1/25/2012 1:37 PM EST

    In Response to Re: Incompetent Ravens killed their own clock:
    My opinion:  Poor sideline management, as much as anything else, lost that game for the Ravens.  If the kicker wasn't ready to go in when the kicking team went on the field then that's as much the fault of the special teams coach as it is the kicker.  By most accounts, Cundiff shanked that kick because he had to rush it.  That is but one example of how lack of attention to EVERY detail can lose a game.  Would the Ravens have won had they made the FG and tied the game?  We'll never know because that is but one play of many that anyone can point to that contributed to their loss.
    Posted by ATJ


    I think your right. Belichick even said he thought they were rushed so he let them kick it without calling a T.O to ice Cundiff...How could you not call a T.O when your kicker didn't get on the field until 10 seconds in the play clock?


    http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4715919/scoreboard-error-to-blame-for-cundiff-miss
     

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    Re: Incompetent Ravens killed their own clock

    posted at 1/25/2012 2:30 PM EST

    In Response to Re: Incompetent Ravens killed their own clock:
    In Response to Re: Incompetent Ravens killed their own clock : The Gints ARE NOT better than Baltenbored.  No way.
    Posted by Patsfansince1966


    The Giants O is most definitly better then Balts O which is what was being refrenced
     

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    Re: Incompetent Ravens killed their own clock

    posted at 1/25/2012 2:32 PM EST

    In Response to Re: Incompetent Ravens killed their own clock:
    In Response to Re: Incompetent Ravens killed their own clock : The Giants O is most definitly better then Balts O which is what was being refrenced
    Posted by PatsEng

      Yes, 30 of 60 is pretty darn good I'd say.
     

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    Re: Incompetent Ravens killed their own clock

    posted at 1/25/2012 2:41 PM EST

    In Response to Re: Incompetent Ravens killed their own clock:
    My opinion:  Poor sideline management, as much as anything else, lost that game for the Ravens.  If the kicker wasn't ready to go in when the kicking team went on the field then that's as much the fault of the special teams coach as it is the kicker.  By most accounts, Cundiff shanked that kick because he had to rush it.  That is but one example of how lack of attention to EVERY detail can lose a game.  Would the Ravens have won had they made the FG and tied the game?  We'll never know because that is but one play of many that anyone can point to that contributed to their loss.
    Posted by ATJ


    If Cundiff was in that much of a rush, why didn't he just call a timeout? No matter how you spin it, him and/or his coaches just blew it.

    I'm tired of hearing all this BS about how the ravens "outplayed" the Pats. Flacco had a career day and brady had a subpar day.... And the Pats still won.