inconvenient truths that prove TT is BETTER than TB with WRs +in the 4th quarter?

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    inconvenient truths that prove TT is BETTER than TB with WRs +in the 4th quarter?

    TEBOW has a higher qbr (espn) and official qb rating than brady. he has far less turnovers and even his completion percentage is superior with the money on the table in the 4th! if he wins on sunday, tebow is in the MVPPPP discussion, right up there with rodgers! tb was a force of nature and still is for the offense, but tebow inspires everyone from his coaches (no one yelling at him in the 4th) to the waterboy to the kicker to the defense to the special teams. tebow's mates rally around him more than brady's boys do with him nowadays! no way with tebow around his defense is on pace to being the WORSE in the history of the nfl in terms of yardage given up!
     
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    Seriously? 

    Come on..........................

    Atleast try to write something which makes SOME sense. 
     
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    If the Bears did not have their brain f*rts last Sunday and the D does not keep the opponent close, the Broncos would not have won 6 in a row.  Tebow is benefiting from the defense of the Broncos..  outside of the aberration of the Vikings game, Denver has not played an O like the Pats.
     
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    [QUOTE]...  outside of the aberration of the Vikings game, Denver has not played an O like the Pats.
    Posted by agcsbill[/QUOTE]

    Well, they played Detroit when they were rolling, and gave up 45.
     
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    [QUOTE]If the Bears did not have their brain f*rts last Sunday and the D does not keep the opponent close, the Broncos would not have won 6 in a row.  Tebow is benefiting from the defense of the Broncos..  outside of the aberration of the Vikings game, Denver has not played an O like the Pats.
    Posted by agcsbill[/QUOTE]

    Sure they have. Detroit and GB and they got 40+ dropped on them.
     
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    Can we wait to compare Tebows numbers to TB until after Tebow has been in the league for 12 years and has won 3 Super Bowls? A dozen games doth not an elite quarterback maketh.
     
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    A better question might be: How quickly will Elway throw Tebow under a bus if he experiences a 3-4 game losing streak ? The read option is great when it works (cf Wildcat), but what happens when it starts to fail.
     
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    [QUOTE]Can we wait to compare Tebows numbers to TB until after Tebow has been in the league for 12 years and has won 3 Super Bowls? A dozen games doth not an elite quarterback maketh.
    Posted by BostonSportsFan111[/QUOTE]

    BINGO!!
     
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    Who would you rather have in the fourth quarter? TT or TB? Winners go with Brady, Losers go with Tebow. There is no comparison.  

    With everything TT has accomplished, I'm not sure why he isn't running for President? For all you "proofreaders", I'm sure they would make an exception for his age. 
     
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    Brady has scored more TDs in the 4th qtr than any other qtr despite being pulled for several series.  5/9/9/10.  Skew that!
     
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    Tebow would be MVP if he lead the Broncos to the win the Super Bowl but I don't see that happening.  Even if he beats the Pats sunday so what.  The Pats don't play great defense anymore and anything can happen.   I think that the Pats just outscore Denver.

     
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    CC is a duush.. people. please make sure you start every reply to his posts by remending him he thinks TT is better than TB. he'll say he just the messenger. But he's not because nobody asked him to deliver anything.. he's a duush that gets off if he thinks he's started a controversy..  Seriously CC... Just SHUT UP and go AWAY. Nobody cares for what your selling..
     
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    [QUOTE]Tebow would be MVP if he lead the Broncos to the win the Super Bowl but I don't see that happening.  Even if he beats the Pats sunday so what.  The Pats don't play great defense anymore and anything can happen.   I think that the Pats just outscore Denver.
    Posted by MichFan[/QUOTE]

    So the bronco's have a lights out defence and you would give the MVP to TT if they go the the SB?? REALLY??

     
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    [QUOTE]TEBOW has a higher qbr (espn) and official qb rating than brady. he has far less turnovers and even his completion percentage is superior with the money on the table in the 4th! if he wins on sunday, tebow is in the MVPPPP discussion, right up there with rodgers! tb was a force of nature and still is for the offense, but tebow inspires everyone from his coaches (no one yelling at him in the 4th) to the waterboy to the kicker to the defense to the special teams. tebow's mates rally around him more than brady's boys do with him nowadays! no way with tebow around his defense is on pace to being the WORSE in the history of the nfl in terms of yardage given up!
    Posted by COMMUNIST-CONTRARIAN[/QUOTE]


    Credit defensive ineptitude of opposing teams, not the Saviour.

    Since Week 7, opponents have rushed five or more defenders on 40 percent of Tebow's dropbacks during the first three quarters. During the fourth quarter and overtime, opponents have rushed five or more on only 28 percent of his dropbacks. The disparity of 11.6 percentage points is the largest in the league, meaning that no team has seen a larger change in an opponent’s defensive philosophy from the early stages of the game to crunch time
     
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    Is the game still 4 quarters long?
     
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    C'mon.  It's a guy who's avatarS (KoolAid Kontrarian, remember that one too) are based solely on having contrary "opinions"  So, he is a professional, intentional @$sbag.  What else do you expect?  At least someone talked him out of all caps.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: How do we explain tebow being BETTER than TB in the 4th quarter? : So the bronco's have a lights out defence and you would give the MVP to TT if they go the the SB?? REALLY??
    Posted by justme2[/QUOTE]


    The Broncos have a "lights out" defense?

    Really? Hyperbole reigns king on this forum some times.
     
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    Re: How do we explain tebow being BETTER than TB in the 4th quarter?

    Two words: prevent defense

    Don't run it and he can't move the ball except on the ground.
     
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    [QUOTE]Can we wait to compare Tebows numbers to TB until after Tebow has been in the league for 12 years and has won 3 Super Bowls? A dozen games doth not an elite quarterback maketh.
    Posted by BostonSportsFan111[/QUOTE]

    Right on, TT will never be TB.
    I live in Co and Broncos fans are so fair weather its incredible.

     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: How do we explain tebow being BETTER than TB in the 4th quarter? : The Broncos have a "lights out" defense? Really? Hyperbole reigns king on this forum some times.
    Posted by WesternOregon[/QUOTE]exactly. all the kool-aid haters run under this skirt to knock down tebow. lets get the facts should we.. bronco defense has allowed far more points than the pats lousy D. were they great versus minny, versus detroit? overall, they are BETTER because of TEBoW, in same way PATS defense would be BETTER if tebow was to take over our offense! tebow makes any defense look better and hides their flaws. what came first, the tebow the egg or the chicken that is the defense? clearly tebow came BEFORE the "better" defense.. just ask champ bailey (someone who actually plays for the defense). is brady better than tebow? of course! would i rather have brady on my team? YES! but dont kick the tebow, for another team he serves a great purpose as well. many ways to skin a cat. i'm just the messenger!
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to How do we explain tebow being BETTER than TB in the 4th quarter? : Credit defensive ineptitude of opposing teams, not the Saviour. Since Week 7, opponents have rushed five or more defenders on 40 percent of Tebow's dropbacks during the first three quarters. During the fourth quarter and overtime, opponents have rushed five or more on only 28 percent of his dropbacks. The disparity of 11.6 percentage points is the largest in the league, meaning that no team has seen a larger change in an opponent’s defensive philosophy from the early stages of the game to crunch time
    Posted by pezz4pats[/QUOTE]defensive ineptitude eh? did the jets not do an all-out blitz and get burned? fact is once this kid gets dialed in the Fox stop cuddling the kid and just let him play, he is ELITE. if they come after him, they get burned worse. if they prevent, they get burned. he can beat ya with his legs and arm and his judgment mind. give the man credit.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: How do we explain tebow being BETTER than TB in the 4th quarter? : defensive ineptitude eh? did the jets not do an all-out blitz and get burned? fact is once this kid gets dialed in the Fox stop cuddling the kid and just let him play, he is ELITE. if they come after him, they get burned worse. if they prevent, they get burned. he can beat ya with his legs and arm and his judgment mind. give the man credit.
    Posted by COMMUNIST-CONTRARIAN[/QUOTE]

    What part of opposing teams rushing TTBoy LESS in the 4th qtr, thus resulting in more completions, don't you understand? 
    Maybe when TT is pointing to the sky, he's actually crediting the altitude, which probably contributes more to his success than JC.
     
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    In Response to Re: How do we explain tebow being BETTER than TB in the 4th quarter?:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: How do we explain tebow being BETTER than TB in the 4th quarter? : defensive ineptitude eh? did the jets not do an all-out blitz and get burned? fact is once this kid gets dialed in the Fox stop cuddling the kid and just let him play, he is ELITE. if they come after him, they get burned worse. if they prevent, they get burned. he can beat ya with his legs and arm and his judgment mind. give the man credit.
    Posted by COMMUNIST-CONTRARIAN[/QUOTE]

    You and Oregon put down your crack pipes. Tebow has no history to judge him by. He's just another rookie QB. Half of his wins are due to mistakes by the other team. See if he starts next season and compiles a winning record and then maybe you can call him a good QB. Not great just good. Until then he's just another media hyped 'new thing'.
     
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    Re: How do we explain tebow being BETTER than TB in the 4th quarter?

    mvp in regards to the players team specifically, not the best stats in the league...i think that's pretty undeniable. i mean, rodgers should win it hands down, but it's not outlandish to think he'd be in the conversation. esp if they make the playoffs, and seeing what rodgers does the next few weeks without jennings.
     
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    [QUOTE]mvp in regards to the players team specifically, not the best stats in the league...i think that's pretty undeniable. i mean, rodgers should win it hands down, but it's not outlandish to think he'd be in the conversation. esp if they make the playoffs, and seeing what rodgers does the next few weeks without jennings.
    Posted by phsmith8[/QUOTE]

    If not for his D which has kept opponents to under 17 points a game, there would be no conversation, period!
    As evidenced by the one game where they could not (Detroit), and TT was slaughtered like the sacrificial lamb that he is.
    If anything, Prader deserves the MVP for hitting a high amount of low percentage field goals.
     

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