Inexpensive strong S to pair with DMC? Would you do it?

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    Inexpensive strong S to pair with DMC? Would you do it?

      Safety Brandon Meriweather signed a two-year, $6 million contract with theWashington Redskins in 2012 and reworked the deal last offseason. As it turns out, he now is set to become an unrestricted free agent. 

    "Safety Brandon Meriweather’s contract with the Washington Redskins voids next week to make him an unrestricted free agent this offseason, according to a person familiar with the deal," wrote Mark Maske of the Washington Post. 

    "According to that person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the contract details publicly, Meriweather’s contract voids five days after the Super Bowl and there is no option year in the deal to potentially tie him to the team next season." 

    In other words, Meriweather will be able to sign with any team he chooses once the free-agent market opens up in mid-March. 

    Meriweather had two interceptions and 69 tackles this season, but the 30-year-old safety has had trouble staying healthy in recent years and Pro Football Focus graded him out as their No. 77 safety this season. Further diminishing Meriweather's free-agent value is his unyielding devotion to dangerous hits, which has led to him being suspended from game action. 

    He'll probably get some nibbles of interest, but he shouldn't expect much of a payday.
     
     
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    Head case...he and BB no longer exchange XMAS cards as well....

     
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    How many big hitting SS's are available at 30 years of age, maybe at a very attractive cost? Is this locker room strong enough to handle a player such as Merri?

    Talib, Dennerd, Ryan, Arrington, DMC, Merri, Harmon, Gregory (restructured)

    Would there be a deeper or better secondary in the NFL? 

     
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    Haven't we seen enough of Gregory? How many times have we seen him leap over and around people to avoid contact? A Safety that doesn't like hitting?

    BM had potential at one time...he himself stated he would rather "free lance" than follow a defensive plan. That was never gonna work out here.

     

     
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    In response to rkarp's comment:
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    How many big hitting SS's are available at 30 years of age, maybe at a very attractive cost? Is this locker room strong enough to handle a player such as Merri?

    Talib, Dennerd, Ryan, Arrington, DMC, Merri, Harmon, Gregory (restructured)

    Would there be a deeper or better secondary in the NFL? 

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    Cut Gregory, why extend him? Plus, I'd rather have Pollard. At least he's a disciplined SS, Merriweather was released because he was prone to mistakes. Lots and lots of mistakes...

     
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    Haven't we seen enough of Gregory? How many times have we seen him leap over and around people to avoid contact? A Safety that doesn't like hitting?

    BM had potential at one time...he himself stated he would rather "free lance" than follow a defensive plan. That was never gonna work out here.

     

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    No, I disagree on Gregory. He is not a starting S in the NFL. He is a valuable rotational player that can play either S position if called upon, and can play a multitude of defenses...cover 2, cover 3, man. He can blitz and he can tackle. Of course he has physical limitations, that is why he is a rotational player. Poor draft decisions forced him to play more snaps than he should have. It is not his fault his salary is higher than his production, that is also faulty management decision. At the correct dollar value, he should have a role with this defense. It just should not be as a player playing major snaps unless injury forces the coaches hand. 

    I would think with DMC as the defensive QB at S, and Talib able to control either 1 side of the field or a specific match up, that this defense can accept and thrive with a big hitter that is allowed to free lance. 

     
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    no thanks on Meriweather. He proved his first go round here he just isnt a very good player.

     
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    My knowledge of free agent SS's is lacking, is BM really the best alternative among cheap hard-hitters? I don't remember too many people on this board crying when he left. Liability in coverage, too many mental mistakes, too free lancing.

    I think BB has a higher opinion of Gregory than most on this board. If Harmon can take the next step, I see him cutting into Gregory's snaps this year.

     
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    My knowledge of free agent SS's is lacking, is BM really the best alternative among cheap hard-hitters? I don't remember too many people on this board crying when he left. Liability in coverage, too many mental mistakes, too free lancing.

    I think BB has a higher opinion of Gregory than most on this board. If Harmon can take the next step, I see him cutting into Gregory's snaps this year.

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    We could always make a play for Pollard.

     
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    40 GIFs That Say NO - Image 9

     
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    sign Byrd, Bell,Ward or Pollard no to Merriwiffer

     
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    sign Byrd, Bell,Ward or Pollard no to Merriwiffer




    Pollard, but I don't think he'll ever play for the Patriots....we need attitude on this team

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    I've never heard him speak ill of The Patriots. Why wouldn't he play for New England?

     
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    In response to rkarp's comment:
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    How many big hitting SS's are available at 30 years of age, maybe at a very attractive cost? Is this locker room strong enough to handle a player such as Merri?

    Talib, Dennerd, Ryan, Arrington, DMC, Merri, Harmon, Gregory (restructured)

    Would there be a deeper or better secondary in the NFL

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    Is this a serious question?  You think the secondary we have would be the best by replacing Gregory with  Meriweather??   Wow, what did you smoke this morning?  Let me try some. ...

    You got 2 uprovens on that list(Harmon, Ryan) plus turnstyle arrington and Dmac as good as he is playing deep middle, cant cover a TE to save his life.....lol and smh all at once..

    Just wait a few days and then you will see the best secondary which is also the deepest.  Browner not playing... havent missed a beat. We lose a CB, our whole D stinks....lol

     
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    In response to rkarp's comment:
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    How many big hitting SS's are available at 30 years of age, maybe at a very attractive cost? Is this locker room strong enough to handle a player such as Merri?

    Talib, Dennerd, Ryan, Arrington, DMC, Merri, Harmon, Gregory (restructured)

    Would there be a deeper or better secondary in the NFL



    Is this a serious question?  You think the secondary we have would be the best by replacing Gregory with  Meriweather??   Wow, what did you smoke this morning?  Let me try some.

    not a smoker. found out however I may be in the minority after going out to the PAts/Broncos game

    You got 2 uprovens on that list(Harmon, Ryan) plus turnstyle arrington and Dmac as good as he is playing deep middle, cant cover a TE to save his life.....lol and smh all at once..

    How can you say "unproven". What did Ryan show that says he cannot be part of a 4 man group, getting rotational snaps? And if called upon, can step up against 80-85% of the WR's in the league? Harmon I am a little more skeptical of, but willing to see what happns year #2 with him in that 4th S slot taking TWilsons roster spot

    Just wait a few days and then you will see the best secondary which is also the deepest.  Browner not playing... havent missed a beat. We lose a CB, our whole D stinks....lol

    Seahawks would be no different Sunday if Sherman goes down against Manning. Seahawks are outsnading but not as deep as our group if we could get a physical S at a reasonable price.

    I am not sitting here typing that Merri is better than Byrd or Pollard, but I am saying that the PAts could secure him for approx the vet min, where as Byrd and Pollard will be signing in a zip code the Pats cannot afford

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    In response to TripleOG's comment:

     

    In response to rkarp's comment:
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    How many big hitting SS's are available at 30 years of age, maybe at a very attractive cost? Is this locker room strong enough to handle a player such as Merri?

    Talib, Dennerd, Ryan, Arrington, DMC, Merri, Harmon, Gregory (restructured)

    Would there be a deeper or better secondary in the NFL

     



    Is this a serious question?  You think the secondary we have would be the best by replacing Gregory with  Meriweather??   Wow, what did you smoke this morning?  Let me try some.

     

    not a smoker. found out however I may be in the minority after going out to the PAts/Broncos game

    You got 2 uprovens on that list(Harmon, Ryan) plus turnstyle arrington and Dmac as good as he is playing deep middle, cant cover a TE to save his life.....lol and smh all at once..

    How can you say "unproven". What did Ryan show that says he cannot be part of a 4 man group, getting rotational snaps? And if called upon, can step up against 80-85% of the WR's in the league? Harmon I am a little more skeptical of, but willing to see what happns year #2 with him in that 4th S slot taking TWilsons roster spot

    Just wait a few days and then you will see the best secondary which is also the deepest.  Browner not playing... havent missed a beat. We lose a CB, our whole D stinks....lol

    Seahawks would be no different Sunday if Sherman goes down against Manning. Seahawks are outsnading but not as deep as our group if we could get a physical S at a reasonable price.

    I am not sitting here typing that Merri is better than Byrd or Pollard, but I am saying that the PAts could secure him for approx the vet min, where as Byrd and Pollard will be signing in a zip code the Pats cannot afford

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    thats fair but I think Big ban g clock is done here. I like Ryan as long as he is where they want them. VS Denver, he took a step back but make no mistake, I like what I saw but it was limited time.

    Dennard, as good as he looked early on has always been a guy I wanted to play inside. He makes up for lack of size with physical play but eventually a bigger guy is gonna burn him. I call it the Ellis Hobbs effect. Great 1st couple years until he started to wear down and get exposed. Dennard is already wearing down with all the small injuries he incurred this year.

    I Sherman goes down, atleast they have a servicable guy on other side. They have 2 great Safeties who make plays and hit hard. Not even close. Chancellor and/or E.Thomas could have been nominated for DPOY with noone complaining. Gregory and Dmac...not so much. That secondary does it all. No weaknesses that I see. Ours...dont get me started. I dont overate players. Dennard is good but do we really think he went all the way to the 7th for off field issues?? NFL employs plenty of hot heads.

    Arrington is only good if everyone is healthy. I havent seen our secondary healthy by years end in quite some time now yet other teams have their guys there in the end. Its always something with us. NO talent or injuries. We will have to agree to disagree if your opinion is that our secondary is deeper than Seattles. So we may have one backup that is better but their starters TRUMP ours... is that a saving grace..a backup player??

     
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    Get McCourty back at DB and build him up again.....I know what I saw in 2010.

    Besides, when McCourty's deal expires after this season you think he stays as a former DB doing an OK job at FS? NO freakin way...so he's gone anyway.

    Get him back at corner and get his confidence back.

    Put Talib's money at:

    1.SS

    2.TE

    3.C

    4.DT

     

     
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    Merriweather has some talent but his problem is he cant play within a system. He wants to freelance. That might work in college but not in the NFL (unless perhaps your name is Lawrence Taylor).

    No thanks. Been there. Done that.

     

     
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    Get McCourty back at DB and build him up again.....I know what I saw in 2010.

    Besides, when McCourty's deal expires after this season you think he stays as a former DB doing an OK job at FS? NO freakin way...so he's gone anyway.

    Get him back at corner and get his confidence back.

    Put Talib's money at:

    1.SS

    2.TE

    3.C

    4.DT

     

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    This is true as Eugene Wilson was shown the door and never offered a contract but I dont know if going back to CB is the answer. Dmac has already bulked up and became a safety. He would be just a jag CB now and a slow one.  and last I checked CBs get paid more than safeties so my guess is BB signs him because he IS smart. He prevents the big play which is what BB wants from his B.B.D.B. defense. He wont cover TEs or make many plays but BB doesnt value that over consistency and TDs given up.

     
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    Would rather take Pollard and see what's in the draft.

     
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    Merri has burnt his bridge here, IMO.  He is simply not disciplined enough to play in NE.  I see where you are coming from due to his size, athleticism, and inexpensive contract, but I just don't think he fits into BB's team system, no matter the cost.  I'd like to see Harmon get a chance to start alongside DMC, and keep Gregory as a specialty player.  I know Gregory has his limitations, but BB seems to love his smarts and leadership.  I think he still has a place here.  Then I would cut Ebner and draft a young Safety with upside.  If a good vet Safety hits the market that fits our budget, then I would bring him in and cut T. Wilson too.  

     
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    No Pollard, Whitner, Bethea, Mundy, or even someone like Quinten Mikell would be an upgrade from gregory

    Meriweather isnt Patriot material hence why he's in Wash

     
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    Byrd want someone to back the brinks truck up, Merriweather had his chance in NE,Pollard would be great, but he was trained by Suggs to be a hater of all things New England, Ward would be a great addition but cost prohibitive. Here's a novel Idea draft one!

     
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    [QUOTE]  Safety Brandon Meriweather signed a two-year, $6 million contract with theWashington Redskins in 2012 and reworked the deal last offseason. As it turns out, he now is set to become an unrestricted free agent. 

    "Safety Brandon Meriweather’s contract with the Washington Redskins voids next week to make him an unrestricted free agent this offseason, according to a person familiar with the deal," wrote Mark Maske of the Washington Post. 

    "According to that person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the contract details publicly, Meriweather’s contract voids five days after the Super Bowl and there is no option year in the deal to potentially tie him to the team next season." 

    In other words, Meriweather will be able to sign with any team he chooses once the free-agent market opens up in mid-March. 

    Meriweather had two interceptions and 69 tackles this season, but the 30-year-old safety has had trouble staying healthy in recent years and Pro Football Focus graded him out as their No. 77 safety this season. Further diminishing Meriweather's free-agent value is his unyielding devotion to dangerous hits, which has led to him being suspended from game action. 

    He'll probably get some nibbles of interest, but he shouldn't expect much of a payday.
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    Are you nuts? Been there done that with ole marryweather. No way the 77th ranked safety. How many safeties are in the league? 78?

     
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    Byrd want someone to back the brinks truck up, Merriweather had his chance in NE,Pollard would be great, but he was trained by Suggs to be a hater of all things New England, Ward would be a great addition but cost prohibitive. Here's a novel Idea draft one!

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    Chung, TWilson, Harmon. Need I say more

     
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