Re: Interesting Offensive Stats: 2012 vs 2011
posted at 1/5/2013 1:54 PM EST
In response to coolade2's comment:
In response to zbellino's comment:
In response to coolade2's comment:
"Watch the game. You'll see. "
Watched 2nd half yesterday. Every mistake obviously is magnified because of result... but the 2 biggest ones were play calls. The safety and 4th qtr pick. Another fault of obie that gets glossed over is his disregard for Brady as a player. He uses and abuses the QB with no sense of how the game can punish the position relating to the sequence of plays....
So dropping Brady into the end zone on 1st play was ascinine. Do you think jints don't know this tendency? Do you think Brady doesn't know they know? How does this obreinstein move play out...? From the snap Brady is uncomfortable, the play is designed to go deep but gints are sitting on that... Brady again is forced into trying to execute stupid play call except with this added conundrum... QB performance is depleted by perceived pressure... AN EXPERIENCED OC doesn't put a QB in that position on the FIRST PLAY OF THE fn SB... !
This is so obvious I had to use a few caps... hope you got it... Just blame the coaches once... See if you can do it.
Why would that be their "tendency"? New England actually ran the ball in that same situation for 18 yards against the Giants in the first game, first play. Same formation.
Then ran a play action fake on that play the second time around.
Isn't that the "mantra" here ... play action works when you run it?
They were being unpredictable. They were using an established precedent to "trick" the Giants.
The Giants just owned them. Four defensive lineman (not a blitz as if they were expecting a pass) beat 7 blockers, because one defensive lineman blew his assignment and two more didn't pick it up.
Don't have the stats but I would venture a wager that Brady has passed from his end zone more than any QB in the league. You don't think Coughlin has this book on him ( and obie)...? A tendency means they've prepared for it and were not surprised. this also means the play is low percentage, aka recipe for disaster. Obie didn't grasp this. He couldn't. He's a greenhorn.
could you comment on his big game experience, and/or his stellar credentials he brought to this team...? He's basically a nobody who rode brady and bbs bus for a couple years... and if you're buying proroids argument that bb signs off on every play, then that makes him bad AND irrelevant.
Again, the things you are saying are fine in a world where you are a mind reader.
But the evidence on the field is that the Giants weren't expecting a pass, they didn't stunt, blitz, run an exchange, play bump and run, or do anything that would demonstrate this. They lined up in straight man underneath shell, with a man over the RB. That is essentially a catch-all formation, but your basic formation for covering runs.
I could understand them "knowing it" if they threw a kitchen sink blitz at New England. But they didn't. They just outplayed NE's defensive line on that play.
The same way they did on the numerous stuffed runs.
This is a fact: BB doesn't sign off on every play ... but he signs off on some because you'll see him make the call, certainly on big decisions like whether to go hurry up, etc, certainly on the "script" which that was part of, he is the main hand who get to compose the plays and variety in the playbook, and thus the overall strategy of the training camp playbook, the seasonal playbook, and the weekly playbook. Also he helps compose halftime adjustments. If anything I'd argue he is spread too thin, and might want to be a bit hands off with the offense.
But that play was 100% his call because it was one of the first 15. New England (like most teams) scripts their first bunch of plays. They almost never make adjustments. Then they build off of the 15 plays they just ran based on how the other team played them.
That playcall had been "planned" weeks in advance. It was the same formation, same position, same down, same distance as it was in the last Giants matchup. It's no coincidence they came out and ran a PA pass. And having that "planned" means it wasn't "called," which means BB definitely made that call in the office.
As far as Obrien goes ... he has about the same credentials as McDaniels ... one Superbowl loss, and one playoff one and done. They are equally green, and I have no more or less faith in McD, especially considering he was brought in last season before the game specifically to assist in the game plan.
For all you or I know.... it could have been his idea to run a max protect PA pass on the first play, then signed off on by Belichik and Obrien.