Interesting report on Oak's #8 pick

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    We won't give al his pick back...  maybe ours next year and a second this yr. 

    For me you only do this if BB is in love with a guy who is there at 8.  And considering this may be (cross your fingers) the last year of this ridicules rookie wage scale he would really have to be in love with him 
    What most don't look at is it would also have to fill two other criteria. 
     
    A). be at a position of need for this year (DE, OLB, MLB, WR, TE) Those imo are our needs, but not all those spots can work for bb at the 8th draft pick (see trading down for mayo from #8).  

    B). be at a position where you can actually afford to pay a guy that much money.  Berry will be a great player in the NFL.  But he can be pro bowler from day one and still will have serious ?'s about living up to the contract he would demand from a top-5 or 10 pick.  So only the big money spots are worth Trading up for this year.  Super high picks will be worth much more next year (way to go bb) when they aren't the highest paid players in the NFL, but due to the same factors the lower 1st round picks we have valued for the last couple of years will no longer provide the financial value they provide now. 

    So if it is for a WR or a DE I can see us moving up, but only if everyone loves the guy.  I personally don't see McCoy or Suh going past 6, so it might not be worth trading with Oak, unless we like bryant...  
     
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    The only people I would truly trade up for are Suh and McCoy into the top 8.
     
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    In Response to Re: Interesting report on Oak's #8 pick : sorry to burst your bubble but Oakland was only offerring a 2nd Round pick in 2010 or a 1st rounder in 2011.  A 1st round pick in 2010 was NEVER on the table during the Seymour trade talks
    Posted by lucky13calistyle


    Bubble not burst.  How many times do we have to say NE DID NOT WANT a 1st round pick this year due to the high cost.  They gladly took the pick in 2011 expecting there would be a salarly rookie cap by then.  So why would they move back in.  Do you know how much it would cost for a top 5 pick this year.  Zero Chance NE does it.

    Also, someone mentioned that this year had more talent then next year so they should move back into 2010.  Actually, one should argue the exact opposite.  In a deep draft you can get good talent latter.  Next year, when the talent pool is lower, having that higher first round pick is going to allow you to get a good talent before it dries up.

    Keep the 2011 pick, they have enough picks already this year.
     
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    Good point Pats, only so many can make the team.
     
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    next years perceived lack of depth would play in favor of us holding onto the top-10 from OAK but being open to trading our (25th-32nd) pick for next years draft along with a second from this year.  If oak wants out of # 8 AND WE ARE IN LOVE with pass rusher is the only way this could happen

    But you have to ask, why would oakland want to give up a high draft pick for one that will be much much lower...  this could only be a realistic question with the raiders, kinda feel sorry for those fans.  We apparently ruined the franchise when we beat them in the tuck rule game, like Jordan did to Ehlo and the Cav's.
     
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    I could see BB trading NE's 2010 1st rounder along with a 2010 2nd rounder to move into the 10-15 range if he's sold on a guy. Then trading NE's 2011 1st rounder for a 2010 2nd rounder and 2011 2nd rounder. Then trading NE's 2011 1st rounder from Oakland (hopefully top 15) when the 2011 draft comes around for a late 1st in 2011 (to replace NE's 2011 pick traded away) and a 2012 2nd rounder.
    Posted by ricky12684


    I am with you on the last sentence buddy, should have stopped there.  All the juniors who wanted to get paid (cept the idiot locker) left college this year before they put a better rookie wage scale in place.  so this is a deep draft, deeper than usual because of somewhat external circumstances.  next year is only going to be 10-15 players deep, compared to about 40 guys this year.  that 2011 oak pick is gold.  Our next yrs 1st will be losing value thou, looking primed for a trade...
     
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