Re: Is Brady a system QB
posted at 1/17/2011 3:24 PM EST
In Response to Re: Is Brady a system QB
[QUOTE]Im not the sharpest pencil in the box, give you that but I know football. System QB you need to look it up. Means the player only excels in the specific system alas Matt Cassel. The #s do not mislead. Cassel and Bradys stats are very similar with the exception of 07. If Cassel can step into the offense in his first full season, and put up #'s similar to Brady, my statement is supported. Secondly, Great Qb's like Elway, Montana, Marino, Favre, and 18 can step into any offense and excel. Insert Manning on the Panthers and they are a playoff team. With Brady they are not going to make the playoffs. Purely hypothetical but im basically saying that without Belicheat, Brady would have three less rings and seen as only a dink and dunk qb who manages the game. sorry pats fan, its belicheat that deserves the credit. nvr thought a coach was worth a first round draft pick to acquire but bb proved otherwise.
Posted by ColtsPacersFan1[/QUOTE]
"I know football." Don't know if I agree with that - seems PM's had the same offensive coaching for quite some time. Let me ask you this: would you rather have a "dink and dunk" passer that led your team to three SBs, or one who is a "field general," and led your team to one SB?
You mention "great Qb's Secondly, Great Qb's like Elway, Montana, Marino, Favre", but didn't include PM in that august group. You don't think PM's great? Also:
- Elway didn't win until Denver got a very good RB. Also, Shanahan (I know, bad speller) - is famous for his "system." Just ask Donovan McNabb. Is it a coincidence that Elway didn't win a SB until he ceased slinging the ball around? I think not.
- Montana was the epitome of the "system QB" - he ran Walsh's "west coast offense."
- Marino never won a thing. So if he wasn't a "system" QB, maybe he should have tried being one.
- Farve had one SB and lots of playoff wins - he also had great defenses. Heck, if it hadn't have been for their special teams, they may not have won the one SB they did.
- I think there's a difference between a QB that can improvise when the play breaks down and a system QB. Any good QB, "system" or not will make positive yardage on busted or initially well-defended plays. Brady, despite yesterday's stinker, does that with aplumb.
You mention "and 18 can step into any offense and excel. Insert Manning on the Panthers and they are a playoff team." Perhaps you're right, we'll never know unless he signs with a losing team. That said, playoffs are one thing, SBs are another. Every year 12 teams make the playoffs, but only one wins the big prize. But if PM was so great - how come he didn't beat the Jets?
In the end, I'd rather have a team with 3 recent (last 10 years) SBs than an all-world, non-system QB with one or none. But to each his own.