Is FOXBORO railroading the KRAFTS? COULD PATS be moving?

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    Is FOXBORO railroading the KRAFTS? COULD PATS be moving?

    posted at 3/27/2012 5:46 PM EDT

    http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/this-just-in/21187391/kraft-sues-foxboro-billboard-dispute

    had no idea things were detiorating this badly with the town and the krafts. looking from the outside, seems like the town is tryin to pull a fst one. i hate the fact that cities can pull this eminent domain nonsense as a threat or retribution to get what they want from private enterprises. if they pats lose this billboard case and the town opens up billvoard advertising to public bids or take over the land, no way i see mr. kraft not responding with at least a trump card threat of his own. for it to get this far says a lot about how deep the resentment is building on both sides. mr. kraft is the largest taxpayer by far in foxboro, they are playing with danger. any doubt he could get a mutually receptive deal from another city in the region or eslewhere? how much would LA concede to get the pats or a version of it?
     

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    Re: Is FOXBORO railroading the KRAFTS? COULD PATS be moving?

    posted at 3/27/2012 6:33 PM EDT

    In Response to Is FOXBORO railroading the KRAFTS? COULD PATS be moving?:
    http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/this-just-in/21187391/kraft-sues-foxboro-billboard-dispute had no idea things were detiorating this badly with the town and the krafts. looking from the outside, seems like the town is tryin to pull a fst one. i hate the fact that cities can pull this eminent domain nonsense as a threat or retribution to get what they want from private enterprises. if they pats lose this billboard case and the town opens up billvoard advertising to public bids or take over the land, no way i see mr. kraft not responding with at least a trump card threat of his own. for it to get this far says a lot about how deep the resentment is building on both sides. mr. kraft is the largest taxpayer by far in foxboro, they are playing with danger. any doubt he could get a mutually receptive deal from another city in the region or eslewhere? how much would LA concede to get the pats or a version of it?
    Posted by COMMUNIST-CONTRARIAN


    The article you post places this as an issue with a resort casino, the billboards are a reason. Foxboro doesn't seem to want a resort casino built in it's confines, I do not blame them, ever been to Atlantic City? If you have did you venture a couple of blocks off the main drag? Wouldn't want that in my backyard regardless of any potential income
     

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    Re: Is FOXBORO railroading the KRAFTS? COULD PATS be moving?

    posted at 3/27/2012 6:45 PM EDT

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    In Response to Is FOXBORO railroading the KRAFTS? COULD PATS be moving? : The article you post places this as an issue with a resort casino, the billboards are a reason. Foxboro doesn't seem to want a resort casino built in it's confines, I do not blame them, ever been to Atlantic City? If you have did you venture a couple of blocks off the main drag? Wouldn't want that in my backyard regardless of any potential income

    Posted by slakrking

    Casinos don't bring about ghetto conditions. AC was that way before there were casinos, and it still is. It's not like that in any other place I've been to where there are casinos. Just off the top of my head that would include New Orleans, St. Louis, Council Bluffs, IA, Vegas of course and Biloxi. The areas around those casinos are fine. No blight to speak of.

     

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    Re: Is FOXBORO railroading the KRAFTS? COULD PATS be moving?

    posted at 3/27/2012 7:07 PM EDT

    I live right next to Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun and they have done nothing to hurt the area. If anything, they have brought more jobs to the people that live here. There's nothing here but trees and hicks.
     

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    Re: Is FOXBORO railroading the KRAFTS? COULD PATS be moving?

    posted at 3/27/2012 8:24 PM EDT

    I doubt he can move. He has huge investments in the Razor and other people have put huge money into it as well. His deals with Patriot Place must have strings attached that the team stays there. If the Pats moved PP would become a ghost town.

    I don't think Bob is free to walk, not only from obligation to others but because of his own vested financial interests.
     

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    Re: Is FOXBORO railroading the KRAFTS? COULD PATS be moving?

    posted at 3/27/2012 8:41 PM EDT

    Moving has to be voted upon by the owners. Bob Kraft doesn't have to threaten anyone. They know what he does for the area. Sounds like some Council persons being the tough guy.
     

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    Re: Is FOXBORO railroading the KRAFTS? COULD PATS be moving?

    posted at 3/27/2012 8:41 PM EDT

    Mr Kraft isn't going to split from a highly profitable position just for a couple of billboards. 

    The Town of Foxboro gets lots of tax revenue from the stadium, but they also get lots of headaches every time Route 1 becomes a parking lot for 2 hours.  I don't blame the town for wanting an extra million dollars.  It's tough out there for towns these days. 

    Mr. Kraft could always buy all of the billboard space and then have the billboards taken down permanently. 
     

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    Re: Is FOXBORO railroading the KRAFTS? COULD PATS be moving?

    posted at 3/27/2012 9:11 PM EDT

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    I live right next to Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun and they have done nothing to hurt the area. If anything, they have brought more jobs to the people that live here. There's nothing here but trees and hicks.
    Posted by magicalhobo


    If you live amongst trees and hicks down there with the casinos what am I living with here...I did see a bear the other day and my neighbor came over in green rubber boots to give me eggs from their hens.....
     

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    Re: Is FOXBORO railroading the KRAFTS? COULD PATS be moving?

    posted at 3/27/2012 9:24 PM EDT

    Did I miss something? I don't recall that article saying anything about the possibity of the Pats moving. Just billboards.  I live literaly less than 5 miles from a casino villiage just west of St. Louis and they just keep pouring money into improvving the surrounding area, which is just fine, but more of that money needs to be going to education as was 'promised' when the casino bills were passed. If the casino issue is put to public ballot, and passed then Foxboro will have a casino cut and dry. Right? KMc.
     

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    Re: Is FOXBORO railroading the KRAFTS? COULD PATS be moving?

    posted at 3/28/2012 12:07 AM EDT

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    ... more of that money needs to be going to education as was 'promised' when the casino bills were passed. If the casino issue is put to public ballot, and passed then Foxboro will have a casino cut and dry. Right? KMc.
    Posted by NESportnut


    i was wondering about that. i have yet to see casino towns really take advantage of that opportunity.
     

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    Re: Is FOXBORO railroading the KRAFTS? COULD PATS be moving?

    posted at 3/28/2012 5:01 AM EDT

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    http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/this-just-in/21187391/kraft-sues-foxboro-billboard-dispute had no idea things were detiorating this badly with the town and the krafts. looking from the outside, seems like the town is tryin to pull a fst one. i hate the fact that cities can pull this eminent domain nonsense as a threat or retribution to get what they want from private enterprises. if they pats lose this billboard case and the town opens up billvoard advertising to public bids or take over the land, no way i see mr. kraft not responding with at least a trump card threat of his own. for it to get this far says a lot about how deep the resentment is building on both sides. mr. kraft is the largest taxpayer by far in foxboro, they are playing with danger. any doubt he could get a mutually receptive deal from another city in the region or eslewhere? how much would LA concede to get the pats or a version of it?
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    Re: Is FOXBORO railroading the KRAFTS? COULD PATS be moving?

    posted at 3/28/2012 5:10 AM EDT

    Communist Contrarian?  Any chance ya could ask Capitalist Avenger to swing on in to this thread, in order to offer his opinion here?  No...no, It's not because I value his take greater than your own...

    It's just-

    Well, It's this:



    ...that I value greater than this:





    There's really no comparison....
     

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    Re: Is FOXBORO railroading the KRAFTS? COULD PATS be moving?

    posted at 3/28/2012 6:34 AM EDT

    Kraft is not moving the Pats anywhere. He's got billions tide up here. It would be financial suicide to move somewhere else. You'll see, he and Wynn will eventually get their way and build that casino...........
     

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    Re: Is FOXBORO railroading the KRAFTS? COULD PATS be moving?

    posted at 3/28/2012 11:10 AM EDT

    Yep, Kraft is going to pack up and leaving the hundreds of million dollars worth of facilities hes built because of some billboards.

    I'm sure he is totally cool with dropping another 600-900 million dollars on a new stadium in Great Barrington Ma
     

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    Re: Is FOXBORO railroading the KRAFTS? COULD PATS be moving?

    posted at 3/28/2012 12:02 PM EDT

    I think we can all relax when it comes to the Pats staying in Foxboro.

    Kraft isn't moving the team anywhere. You all remember the hoops he had to jump through here in Massachusetts just to get infastructure support on a stadium he was privately financing. Forget the Connecticut saga.

    Incidently, where would they go? No space in Boston and the tean would have to finance the new stadium. Kraft is not going to cut off his nose to spite his face especially when he is still paying off the 10 year old stadium.

    I do get a kick from some of the folks that describe Foxboro like it's Duxbury all of a sudden.
     

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    Re: Is FOXBORO railroading the KRAFTS? COULD PATS be moving?

    posted at 3/28/2012 12:19 PM EDT

    " Did I miss something? I don't recall that article saying anything about the possibity of the Pats moving. Just billboards."

    Ahh, but Commie sees lurking conspiracies in what you might see as a straightforward, even trivial story. :)
     

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    Re: Is FOXBORO railroading the KRAFTS? COULD PATS be moving?

    posted at 3/28/2012 3:55 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: Is FOXBORO railroading the KRAFTS? COULD PATS be moving?:
    " Did I miss something? I don't recall that article saying anything about the possibity of the Pats moving. Just billboards." Ahh, but Commie sees lurking conspiracies in what you might see as a straightforward, even trivial story. :)
    Posted by BostonTrollSpanker
    comrade, i anticipate the trends, i don't wait for it to smack me in the head. got it? fact is if the town is making this much of a deal over such a "trivial" issue, what does it say about the bigger stuff? yep, y would kraft leave over such a minor issue, how about y would the town of foxboro fight like this over such an issue? y did the british lose their colonies over such a minor issue of tea and minor taxes and so forth? every steve jobs, every revolution  starts with TRIVIA my friend and you just keep going with it til that molehill becomes a freakin mountain!

    btw, after litigation, krafts finallly will get a representative to testify or speak at the next committee meeting!
     

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    Re: Is FOXBORO railroading the KRAFTS? COULD PATS be moving?

    posted at 3/28/2012 3:57 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: Is FOXBORO railroading the KRAFTS? COULD PATS be moving?:
    Communist Contrarian?  Any chance ya could ask Capitalist Avenger to swing on in to this thread, in order to offer his opinion here?  No...no, It's not because I value his take greater than your own... It's just- Well, It's this: ...that I value greater than this: There's really no comparison....
    Posted by LazarusintheSanatorium

    guess i'm more about the front and cappy is more about the BACKDOOR!
     

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    Re: Is FOXBORO railroading the KRAFTS? COULD PATS be moving?

    posted at 3/28/2012 4:01 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: Is FOXBORO railroading the KRAFTS? COULD PATS be moving?:
    In Response to Re: Is FOXBORO railroading the KRAFTS? COULD PATS be moving? : Casinos don't bring about ghetto conditions. AC was that way before there were casinos, and it still is. It's not like that in any other place I've been to where there are casinos. Just off the top of my head that would include New Orleans, St. Louis, Council Bluffs, IA, Vegas of course and Biloxi. The areas around those casinos are fine. No blight to speak of.
    Posted by Muzwell
    YEP take the GOP take: guns don't kill people, people kill people... casinos don't create ghettos, people create ghettos!
     

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    Re: Is FOXBORO railroading the KRAFTS? COULD PATS be moving?

    posted at 3/28/2012 11:15 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: Is FOXBORO railroading the KRAFTS? COULD PATS be moving?:
    In Response to Re: Is FOXBORO railroading the KRAFTS? COULD PATS be moving? : YEP take the GOP take: guns don't kill people, people kill people... casinos don't create ghettos, people create ghettos!

    Posted by COMMUNIST-CONTRARIAN

    I don't speak communist, can someone please interpret "YEP, take the GOP take" for me? I'm OK with everything after that, by the way.

     

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    Re: Is FOXBORO railroading the KRAFTS? COULD PATS be moving?

    posted at 3/29/2012 4:40 AM EDT

    Eh, The City of Foxboro is simply playing hardball with Kraft, because they recognize that With OR Without Kraft & The Patriots Franchise, they'd undoubtedly still continue to be the very same Bustling mega-Metropolis they've always been.  Usually it goes: New York City, Foxboro, Los Angeles, Miami, and Chicago...minus, a flip here and there, we'd probably ALL agree on this Top 5 List of Major US Cities.

    ...Other than that, CC- We should ALL strive for greater balance through our sexual escapades=Front door, Back door, Missionary, tied to a spinning ceiling fan....

      
     

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