Re: is it WRONG to be leaning against MARTIN?
posted at 11/6/2013 5:24 AM EST
In response to Sobchack's comment:
In response to NoMorePensionLooting's comment:
The NFL is a private club, hence, if you don't like it you are free to go somewhere else. It's a hard locker room mentality, and has been from the beginning, with a group of players that can be rough around the edges. They all do it and many teams will even tell you TB himself is one of the biggest trash talkers during live action. Sure it's a rough way to make a living but if you’re a drama queen you picked the wrong way to make a living.
Martin could have simply said "this ain't for me" and moved on and left it behind. He's out to make a personal and political statement and intends to force the PC world into the private clubs that is the NFL.
If this is not his agenda then why is it he has kept all of the "evidence" regarding this "bullying" situation from day one as if he planned on building a case all along. He could have been learning the playbook, and how to be a better lineman, but he chose to build a "case" rather than accept the rookie treatment, become accepted, and move on.
This OMG PC mentality is why kids can't play dodge ball anymore and some little leagues don't keep score because losing hurts kids feelings.
The PC crowd is running amuck in this country and if it permeates the NFL then the game will be permanently harmed... and for what?
I know I have said I will leave my political views at the door here but I am making an exception here. Not trying to bruise feelings here but I’ve grown tired of some who say their views and beliefs trump what others believe to the point where they begin to control my life. I have no use for the thought police.
I suppose I have said enough.
Sorry to disagree."Private club" in the NFL, a multibillion dollar FOR-proft industry with guys who earn in the top 1 percent to "entertain" people does not apply. Yeah, it's a bunch of big guys in a room. But, this is not the military, the police, or the fire department - in those organizations you are talking about people who are putting their lives on the line so the pressure to "bully" and the "mass mentality" and the "silence" can somehwat be justfied because of what's at stake.
Martin was called a racial slur, likely more than once. Inexcusable and digusting. Could he have gone upstairs in the org to deal with it privately? Sure. Why didn't other players step in and tell the idiot Incognito to tone it down? I think we all need to see all the facts as they come out before we rush to any kind of conclusions. It certainly can be that Martin feels it's necessary to expose an undercurrent of racism in the league by going public. I don't know. It's one thing to rib a rookie and make him pay for meals and carry your equipment, another to call him racial or ethnic or religious slurs.
What I'm hoping to hear is what other African-American players on Miami have to say about this. I think we'll get closer to what's really going on here.
I know what you mean about a hyper-aware PC culture we live in, but we surely can past blatant racial attacks. That's one thing that American society must be above.
I work in an industry with a lot of minorities. I am shocked at how they, 20 something year olds, throw around the N word with each other. The first time I saw this I backed off thinking a fight was about to break out...nope..they were just riding each other...white, black and hispanic...they all did it.
At 59 I don't get it nor understood it...made me nervous as to my generation this was a really bad thing. Over time I asked the group why use that word in jest? How can it be used that way? They had no real answer but certainly the word is used now in some sort of jousting. I myself would not go there...59 year old men aren't "cool"
That being said...I would like to see the entire timeline of what was said and how it was said. I would also be curious as to how the players talk to each other in locker rooms...you know it's not G rated. The problem with certain "language" is what is acceptable one day may not be the next and what's funny to some ain't to others.
I could not survive in the violent world of the NFL, not many can. Martin should have realized this early on and used he degree to work in a more friendly place (for him)