Is This The Year The D Will Start Winning Some Games For The Pats?

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    Is This The Year The D Will Start Winning Some Games For The Pats?

    So, BB appears to have gone all in:

    He drafted a whole bunch of defensive players in the recent draft, designated a Defensive Coordinator, and added a whole bunch of free agents during the off season. These are most of the things some fans have been clamoring for for several years now.

    Does Patricia have enough in his grocery bag to make enough improvements so that the Patriots D can win some games for the Patriots this year? Good enough Talent? Enough playmakers?
     
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    I think the O is so loaded that it won't matter.  That said I do think they will be much better making for some very lopsided wins.
     
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    I think Hightower and Bequette are both studs and will make an immediate impact on the D.  I think if Dowling can stay healthy and Denard can stay out of jail, this D has the potential to be a top 20 D next year, top 15 the year after.  Yes, they will help win some games.
     
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    I think the D won some games for us last year, especially in the playoffs.
     
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    On paper they are already better and hopefully that ends up being the same on the football fields on Sundays. If they become similar to the defenses they had when they won the Super Bowls then the answer is a big YES. But if they don't then they'll continue to depend on the great offense they currently have. But it sure would be great to see all three phases of their team clicking and winning as team.
     
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    Some people say we had a historically bad defense last year and it's just not true. A historically bad defense would not have had a part in winning 15 games and in making it to the super bowl.

    This is the year the D will win the super bowl!
     
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    I think that the way BB runs his D, they get maligned by the fans and the press.  In terms of points allowed when it counts, versus defensive points manufactured when it counts, the Patriots have stacked up as a top ten NFL defense in the past few years. 

    In terms of points allowed when it doesn't count that much (late in the fourth quarter when ahead by three scores, for example) they aren't as good.  That's because they're playing prevent.  There's a joke that the prevent defense and prevent offense prevents you from winning, but take a look at the win-loss record.

    In terms of yards allowed when points aren't immediately on the line, the D gives them up in droves.  Again, the defense's goals are somewhat different from the football raw statistics prognosticators.  A victory is forward.  A loss is backward.  All yardage is not created equal.

    As for this year, BB reached up for two guys who will start immediately and have an impact.  Both guys can pass-rush.  Third rounder Bequette will be in the pass rush mix on passing downs.  Does anyone see a trend here?  BB has had it with anyone named Manning throwing downfield at will.  Or at Sam and Mike.  Apparently pounding the quarterback with a bunch of 270 pound guys who can seriously accelerate before impact (that's the key!) has an effect on throwing.  Batting passes up in the air has its own effect on the quarterback.
     
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    Depends if Carter comes back.
     
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    Depends if Carter comes back.
    Posted by 49Patriots


    I totally agree that Carter coming back would be HUGE.  It would keep the pass rushers fresh and give us depth if there is an injury.
     
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    Belichick just spent 6 picks on the defensive front and the safety position, easily the weakest position on this team. He added a reliable vet safety (Gregory) and defensive end/tackle (Fanene) just in case.

    One thing we can be sure of, the offense alone certainly won't beat the Giant's in the Super Bowl so we NEED the defense to be dominant.  

    Better defense, McDaniel's more efficient offense = Super Bowl win
     
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    Majority of the guys on our defense are on the upswing. Brandon Spikes, Patrick Chung, Kyle Love, Ras I Dowling, 1st Year McCourty, and possibly Jermaine Cunningham and the playoff Sterling Moore. With the rookies coming in and Trevor Scott and Fanene coming in our DEFENSE should drastically improve. If these guys continue to progress, we will be a much better team. That should be very scary to the rest of the league.
     
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    I think the D won some games for us last year, especially in the playoffs.
    Posted by Ender587


    Which playoff game did they win for us again?
     
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    BB threw just about everything he had at a bad D. Here's hoping he hit a few HRs with his choices.
     
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    I see a serious attempt by BB to address the shortcomings of a Patriots D that really did rather well down the stretch last season.  Win games? We'll see.  Improved overall?  Absolutely.
     
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    I think the O is so loaded that it won't matter.  That said I do think they will be much better making for some very lopsided wins.
    Posted by tcal2-


    I hear ya.  This is exactly what we thought in 2007. And we did. Here's the kicker though......if we wanna bring home another Lombardi....the defense has to be able step up in big games and make some plays. I'm thinking the giants games in both 2007 and 2011..
     
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    Some people say we had a historically bad defense last year and it's just not true. A historically bad defense would not have had a part in winning 15 games and in making it to the super bowl. This is the year the D will win the super bowl!
    Posted by digger0862


    digger, this is what i'm hoping for Laughing
     
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    I see the usual suspects lined up again to blame the D for Brady's mistakes and poor play.
     
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    I see the usual suspects lined up again to blame the D for Brady's mistakes and poor play.
    Posted by Evil2012


    No ones excusing TB for his INT and just handing the jints 2pts in the first minute of the game.
    But the D just handed the jints 7 pts in the last minute of the game.
    Which is worse?  Pushing a guy in the endzone so they'd score to get the ball back or a safety?
    You also cannot blame the O for a 8 possession game or being on the sidelines for the equivalent of a half time in real time, after each possession.
    The D had the ball for nearly 2/3rds the game for cripes sake.  Hard to ignore!
     
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    In Response to Re: Is This The Year The D Will Start Winning Some Games For The Pats? : I believe I got stuck in some sorta time-space wormhole vacuum of time right there...  Had dinner when it was still light out, wrote the post...wham- 12:30 in the morning.  I could've created a new religion in that timespan...very least, I could've got some real vacuuming done... 
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    quick question, we had an OC in Obie last year. So, theoretically, shouldn't 2011 draft been the year to stock up on defensive players so we could focus on D? Just a thought....
     
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    I see the usual suspects lined up again to blame the D for Brady's mistakes and poor play.
    Posted by Evil2012


    no, i would say all 3 phases of the game and coaching had plenty to do with the SB loss x2 to the giants
     
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