It's about "Balance"

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    It's about "Balance"

    By ESPN Field Yates

    Taken from today's conference call with Bill Belichick:

    On how important balance is to an offense
    "I think it's a great way to play, because it just forces the defense to have to react and cover everything. Defensively, that's where you want them, you want them to think about all their responsibilities: outside runs, inside runs, deep passes, short passes, screen passes, misdirection plays, inside routes, outside routes, inside receivers, outside receivers. Just to have good balance keeps them from ganging up on one thing. If you can do that, then it opens up a lot of other things. As an example, like on the touchdown pass to [Rob] Gronkowski [in Week 4], it's so hard to get a player like that that open on a drop-back pass. The defenders see the pass and they go to match their coverage and take their guy, but when you can have a run action that draws the defenders up, you get a guy behind them like Rob did on that play. A big part of that play was the play action, and the run threat that we had presented in the game had caused the linebackers to displace a little bit and we were able to get behind them, so the running game helps the passing game, the passing game helps the running game. Throwing to the receivers helps the tight end, throwing to the tight ends helps the receivers, throwing to the receivers helps the backs. It just all creates spacing and forces the defense to handle the whole field, and I think that just gives the offense good opportunities. I think that's a good way to be able to attack offensively. Sometimes a defense will be intent in taking a certain aspect of your game away, and say, 'OK, we're not going to let you beat us with this, so we're going to give you that,' you have to be able to do that."

     
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    It's all about balance . Without it there are no championships.

     
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    Bingo!

     
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    disagree....it's about unpredicatability.

     
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    It's about adjustments and using what works best.  Some games the run will work so you use it more.  Some games the spread will work so you use it more.  It's about exploiting the others team weakness and taking what they are giving you.

     
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    In response to BubbaInHawaii's comment:
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    disagree....it's about unpredicatability.

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    If you don't have a balanced offense then you can not be unpredicatable.

     
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    BB has been around the game a looooooooooooong time.  Everything he says is true, but it's not like he's had an epiphany.  He's believed this right along.  People can dissect his statement to support their bias.  For me, the last sentence is important.  The defense can try to force you into an imbalance and you need to be able to exploit what they are giving.

     
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    It's about adjustments and using what works best.  Some games the run will work so you use it more.  Some games the spread will work so you use it more.  It's about exploiting the others team weakness and taking what they are giving you.

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    That's what BB meant by when the defense decides to take something away you have to be able to have other things that work.

     
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    balance is important of course.....now they have the pieces to actually be balanced. when hernandez is back, this offense will be a machine.

     
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    The ability to do lots of different things is important and, as BB says, to attack the whole field. Being able to that is in part play calling, but it's also talent.  The day before, BB talked about the importance of having backs who can get extra yardage on their own.  We've got that now.  It's what makes balance possible. 

    That said, there are times (again as BB says) when a defense takes something away and you have to focus on the thing they're not taking away. When you don't have good running backs then it's easy to take away the run. That forces a more pass heavy offense and means most of your successful runs come from exploiting the pass-focused deFense. During camp Brady said it was important to be able to get yards running when the other team was expecting run and trying to defend it. In other words, to have backs that can beat the defense even when the defense is expecting run. We've got that this year. I don't think we had that with Benny last year. We may have had it with Ridley (he certainly looked good when they ran him last year), but for some reason the coaches didn't seem to have confidence in him. Not sure I completely get that, but I suspect it had to do with fumbling tendencies or lack of pass blocking skills or maybe not being fully cognizant of the playbook yet.

     

     
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    Its the game plan and matchups, and of course whatever works, like the run game against the Bills the Pats Oline destroyed their front 7 and Mcdaniels kept pounding it.

     
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    Agree with Harley. Expose and exploit an opponents weaknesses.

     
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    Funny, the fourth game of the season last year was a run-heavy game too. That was the Oakland game, when Benny and Ridley combined for 26 carries. Sometimes you take what the defense is giving.

     
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    Funny, the fourth game of the season last year was a run-heavy game too. That was the Oakland game, when Benny and Ridley combined for 26 carries. Sometimes you take what the defense is giving.

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    True but then Benny was hurt and Ridley put the ball on the ground a few times which made the offense dependant on the pass, meaning they became unbalanced and the other teams defenses were able at times able to take away the offenses strength knowing we didn't have the other.

    All the comments here so far back up what BB is saying just in a different way. :-)

     
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    I say BB keeps running, running  and running, and tey'll be able to pass all day long.

     
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    In response to GO47's comment:
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    It's about adjustments and using what works best.  Some games the run will work so you use it more.  Some games the spread will work so you use it more.  It's about exploiting the others team weakness and taking what they are giving you.

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    That's what BB meant by when the defense decides to take something away you have to be able to have other things that work.

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    good thread about balance, adjustments, unpredictability , and i will add having multiple threats (which we do, but you have to use them and prove they are threats to make a defense ineffective agaisnt us. i wrote about this for about 2 years.  in the 2nd half against the bills, the pats did this.

    however why were so many sunday (game thread) and even after, attacking people like myself  who were saying this (especially when josh was not deploying it before the 3rd quarter).

     
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    It's about adjustments and using what works best.  Some games the run will work so you use it more.  Some games the spread will work so you use it more.  It's about exploiting the others team weakness and taking what they are giving you.

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    That's what BB meant by when the defense decides to take something away you have to be able to have other things that work.

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    good thread about balance, adjustments, unpredictability , and i will add having multiple threats (which we do, but you have to use them and prove they are threats to make a defense ineffective agaisnt us. i wrote about this for about 2 years.  in the 2nd half against the bills, the pats did this.

    however why were so many sunday (game thread) and even after, attacking people like myself  who were saying this (especially when josh was not deploying it before the 3rd quarter).

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    I don't have the box score to prove but I think what we saw on Sunday is that they had one game plan and that was to run ball and take the right match ups with the passing game that the defense offered. Unfortunately both Gronk and WW both put the ball on the ground. What was different this time is that the Patriots stuck to their game plan to start the 2nd half and got better execution from all the players which resulted in some big plays especially in the forth quarter.

    I agree you have to prove you have the talent to show the balance in all phases of the offense. One game does not prove it which is why it will be important for them to continue this trend. If they do then this offense is going to be very difficult to stop.

     
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    It's about "Balance"

     

    Way off...not about any 1 of these things.  Has zippo to do with the Balance, and thus the Unpredictability, Development and useage of Multiple Threats on the field, nor the open volume of numerous Adjustments one can do under this in relation to what the opposing D is focusing heavier on taking away...

    It's about 1 thing & 1 thing alone:  Massive Fantasy Football Passing game Stats for Tom Brady.  Ask anyone Coaching in the NFL, or any fan who's followed the sport for a couple decades (+)...they'll tell'ya the same=Fantasy Football stats for Tom Brady.  And if it ain't workin'...?  =Keep at it.  Still ain't workin' in any given individual matchup?  =Keep at it.  Still ain't workin' in the 2nd half?  =Keep at it...maybe sub in a smaller left Offensive Guard.  Still ain't workin' come the final 2 minutes of the game...?  =Then everyone on your Defense s#x, and ya should also probably hit the waiver wires early come monday morn, for some non-sh#tty WRS, b/c all your wideouts s#ck too (also all your runningbacks s#ck and so does your entire Offensive line...and so do your special teams, and everyone on your practice squad as well for that matter).

    ^ Right there, mm-hmm...probably word-for-word, what any NFL Coach or Player would say if ya posed for them the very same issue.   

     
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    In response to GO47's comment:
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    In response to tcal2-'s comment:
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    It's about adjustments and using what works best.  Some games the run will work so you use it more.  Some games the spread will work so you use it more.  It's about exploiting the others team weakness and taking what they are giving you.

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    That's what BB meant by when the defense decides to take something away you have to be able to have other things that work.

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    well, yes and no.  let's say we always played run run pass, run pass pass pass alternatingly, and pass is always in shotgun and spreading the field.  That is balanced, but predictable. Not much help.

    A couple of other have also said - exploiting opponent's weaknesses....and adjusting to exploit weakness...and I agree moreso with those comments vs. merely a 50-50 ratio

     
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    In response to LazarusintheSanatorium's comment:
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    It's about "Balance"

     

    Way off...not about any 1 of these things.  Has zippo to do with the Balance, and thus the Unpredictability, Development and useage of Multiple Threats on the field, nor the open volume of numerous Adjustments one can do under this in relation to what the opposing D is focusing heavier on taking away...

    It's about 1 thing & 1 thing alone:  Massive Fantasy Football Passing game Stats for Tom Brady.  Ask anyone Coaching in the NFL, or any fan who's followed the sport for a couple decades (+)...they'll tell'ya the same=Fantasy Football stats for Tom Brady.  And if it ain't workin'...?  =Keep at it.  Still ain't workin' in any given individual matchup?  =Keep at it.  Still ain't workin' in the 2nd half?  =Keep at it...maybe sub in a smaller left Offensive Guard.  Still ain't workin' come the final 2 minutes of the game...?  =Then everyone on your Defense s#x, and ya should also probably hit the waiver wires early come monday morn, for some non-sh#tty WRS, b/c all your wideouts s#ck too (also all your runningbacks s#ck and so does your entire Offensive line...and so do your special teams, and everyone on your practice squad as well for that matter).

    ^ Right there, mm-hmm...probably word-for-word, what any NFL Coach or Player would say if ya posed for them the very same issue.   

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    lmao......

     
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    Old news. BB has said before he loves balance and will run more if the run is being effective.

     
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    In response to LazarusintheSanatorium's comment:
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    It's about "Balance"

     

    Way off...not about any 1 of these things.  Has zippo to do with the Balance, and thus the Unpredictability, Development and useage of Multiple Threats on the field, nor the open volume of numerous Adjustments one can do under this in relation to what the opposing D is focusing heavier on taking away...

    It's about 1 thing & 1 thing alone:  Massive Fantasy Football Passing game Stats for Tom Brady.  Ask anyone Coaching in the NFL, or any fan who's followed the sport for a couple decades (+)...they'll tell'ya the same=Fantasy Football stats for Tom Brady.  And if it ain't workin'...?  =Keep at it.  Still ain't workin' in any given individual matchup?  =Keep at it.  Still ain't workin' in the 2nd half?  =Keep at it...maybe sub in a smaller left Offensive Guard.  Still ain't workin' come the final 2 minutes of the game...?  =Then everyone on your Defense s#x, and ya should also probably hit the waiver wires early come monday morn, for some non-sh#tty WRS, b/c all your wideouts s#ck too (also all your runningbacks s#ck and so does your entire Offensive line...and so do your special teams, and everyone on your practice squad as well for that matter).

    ^ Right there, mm-hmm...probably word-for-word, what any NFL Coach or Player would say if ya posed for them the very same issue.   

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    lol^  that's the funniest thing I've read on here in a while...

    Balance is key, even if the run isn't effective you can't abandon it to keep the defense honest.

     
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