It's about the players s*****.

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    Re: It's about the players s*****.

    Now that we know coaching plays little part in winning football games, we also know that losing OC's, DC's, QB coaches, and even strength and conditioning coaches with 6 SB rings like Mike Woicik has little impact on our success/failures. Thus we may conclude that the GM is doing a HELLOFAJOB acquiring talent! I mean we must have had the most talented roster in NFL history for 12 years running???

    Perhaps given this new information, Bill Belichick will not be inducted into the H.O.F as a coach, but as a GM?

     
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    Re: It's about the players s*****.

    In response to BabeParilli's comment:
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    John Fox gets it.

     

    "Don Shula won more games than anybody else and he was great. You look at his quarterbacks. He had Johnny Unitas, Bob Griese and Dan Marino. Vince Lombardi had what, like 13 Hall of Famers? Don't let any coach fool you, it's about the players you have."

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    Right on Babe.  Peyton Manning and Jim Caldwell are perfect proof.

     
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    Re: It's about the players s*****.

    In response to BabeParilli's comment:
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    John Fox gets it.

     

    "Don Shula won more games than anybody else and he was great. You look at his quarterbacks. He had Johnny Unitas, Bob Griese and Dan Marino. Vince Lombardi had what, like 13 Hall of Famers? Don't let any coach fool you, it's about the players you have."

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    While I agree that having the right players are more important, Fox's reasoning actually points to the opposite.

    Logically, when a coach is a common denominator in three HOF QBs' success, then shouldn't he be considered the success factor?

    If a QB had success under different coaches, then it makes sense to say that coaches had little to do with their success. 

     
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    Re: It's about the players s*****.

    In response to TrueChamp's comment:
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    Now that we know coaching plays little part in winning football games, we also know that losing OC's, DC's, QB coaches, and even strength and conditioning coaches with 6 SB rings like Mike Woicik has little impact on our success/failures. Thus we may conclude that the GM is doing a HELLOFAJOB acquiring talent! I mean we must have had the most talented roster in NFL history for 12 years running???

    Perhaps given this new information, Bill Belichick will not be inducted into the H.O.F as a coach, but as a GM?

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    Belichick deserves no credit as coach or GM.  All these great players materialized out of thin air.  It's Tom Brady that deserves all the credit.  He even makes the defense better.  Wilfork would be nothing without him.

     
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    Re: It's about the players s*****.

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    In response to TrueChamp's comment:
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    Now that we know coaching plays little part in winning football games, we also know that losing OC's, DC's, QB coaches, and even strength and conditioning coaches with 6 SB rings like Mike Woicik has little impact on our success/failures. Thus we may conclude that the GM is doing a HELLOFAJOB acquiring talent! I mean we must have had the most talented roster in NFL history for 12 years running???

    Perhaps given this new information, Bill Belichick will not be inducted into the H.O.F as a coach, but as a GM?

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    Belichick deserves no credit as coach or GM.  All these great players materialized out of thin air.  It's Tom Brady that deserves all the credit.  He even makes the defense better.  Wilfork would be nothing without him.

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    This is so true. I heard Wilfork studied his technique from Tom Brady, but then again it didn't matter because Wilfork didn't need to be coached. He had talent.

    This is a real conondrum!

     
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