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    Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week?

    posted at 11/19/2010 5:36 PM EST

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    Dude, come on. The officiating has progressively gotten worse in the last 5-10 years than it was years ago. They used to let them play and only call the egregious fouls.
    Posted by BBReigns


    Weren't you complaining about holds not being called?
     

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    Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week?

    posted at 11/19/2010 5:54 PM EST

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    No question about it. No team gets calls like the Colts. It's not even close. Indy is 1, Pitt 2 in this area. HayseedLove still has not told of us of a time where a call was literally created during the game (2006 Colts winning 38-34 on the faceguarding call on Hobbs) to hand a team the AFC title before. It's very rare that such strange, perfectly timed calls occur anyway, but when they happen for Indy in the Colts/Pats tilts, it's definitely disturbing. Most people, who have no agenda, feel that 4th and 2 spot was clearly the wrong call on the field in the review booth.
    Posted by BBReigns


    Oh, stop it about the "4th and 2" call! Faulk blew that one. Cripes! As far back as Pop Warner, the receivers are told to go at least 2 yards deeper than the minimum yardage needed, in case they have to come back for the ball. Faulk ran a 2 1/2 yard route. If he runs the yards, he catches the ball, the Pats run out the clock, and we're not whining about THAT play.

    NO ONE calls a 2 1/2 yard route when 2 yards are needed. That leaves no margin for error. And, when we see this error taking place, it's always easy to blame the refs for a bad spot. Why would anyone want to leave the decision in the hands of the refs? 4 yard route, the game's over, and it's another gem in BB's crown as best HC in the NFL.
     

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    Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week?

    posted at 11/19/2010 7:36 PM EST

    nhsteve,

    You might have had an argument about "every team has bad calls" except that last year it got so bad, even the guys on NFL Network were talking about "how many times can the Colts win on a last minute PI call". There were two or three games in a row lst year that they won with last minute PI calls and had other really iffy PI calls go their way and not just against the Pats. I can't remember who it was, possibly CHFF that went back and counted how many PI calls were called over the last couple of years and found the Colts got more than their share.
     

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    Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week?

    posted at 11/19/2010 8:20 PM EST

    Great whining guys!  Maybe we should call it a day, and pick it up with more whining in the morning!
     

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    Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week?

    posted at 11/19/2010 9:52 PM EST

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    Great whining guys!  Maybe we should call it a day, and pick it up with more whining in the morning!
    Posted by JulesWinfield


    Said the guy who isn't even on his teams site.  Shut up, biotch.  when we want you, we will call.  Come in on your knees like you should.  
     

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    Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week?

    posted at 11/19/2010 9:53 PM EST

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    In Response to Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week? : Oh, stop it about the "4th and 2" call! Faulk blew that one. Cripes! As far back as Pop Warner, the receivers are told to go at least 2 yards deeper than the minimum yardage needed, in case they have to come back for the ball. Faulk ran a 2 1/2 yard route. If he runs the yards, he catches the ball, the Pats run out the clock, and we're not whining about THAT play. NO ONE calls a 2 1/2 yard route when 2 yards are needed. That leaves no margin for error. And, when we see this error taking place, it's always easy to blame the refs for a bad spot. Why would anyone want to leave the decision in the hands of the refs? 4 yard route, the game's over, and it's another gem in BB's crown as best HC in the NFL.
    Posted by AZPAT

    Its nice to have an opinion, but that doesn't mean it counts.  No matte HOW you feel, he made the first down.  

     

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    Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week?

    posted at 11/19/2010 10:02 PM EST

    We can safely conclude from this discussion the following:

    Pats fans feel the team gets jobbed in games versus the Colts....

    Colts fans feel Pats fans all whine...

    Fans of other teams also complain about apparent favoritism Colts get on calls....

    Colts fans will never acknowledge the benefits the team has enjoyed by getting well timed calls in games they are behind...
     

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    Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week?

    posted at 11/19/2010 11:23 PM EST

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    In Response to Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week? : Oh, stop it about the "4th and 2" call! Faulk blew that one. Cripes! As far back as Pop Warner, the receivers are told to go at least 2 yards deeper than the minimum yardage needed, in case they have to come back for the ball. Faulk ran a 2 1/2 yard route. If he runs the yards, he catches the ball, the Pats run out the clock, and we're not whining about THAT play. NO ONE calls a 2 1/2 yard route when 2 yards are needed. That leaves no margin for error. And, when we see this error taking place, it's always easy to blame the refs for a bad spot. Why would anyone want to leave the decision in the hands of the refs? 4 yard route, the game's over, and it's another gem in BB's crown as best HC in the NFL.
    Posted by AZPAT

    careful AZ - Rusty and Mighty will be after you for this kind of blasphemy.
     

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    Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week?

    posted at 11/19/2010 11:49 PM EST

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    In Response to Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week? : Actually, I'm not stupid.  I have advanced degrees...and I seriously doubt you have a high school diploma.  It's also poor salesmanship to mention that the ref has a perfect view, since the no replay or still photo shows clearly where the spot should be.  All you're left with is your lame conspiracy theory.  BTW, that does seem to be about where he was when he got final possession - do you have the spacial awareness to realize the ball is at best even with where his feet are and, more likely, behind where his feet are?
    Posted by JulesWinfield


    You can't claim your Ph.D in Gomer worshipping as an advanced degree. 

    Go look at that replay at the start of the play and you will see the Colt DE clearly lined up in the neutral zone.  It should have a game ending penalty BEFORE Faulk earned the first down.  The bogus PI call (yet again) on Butler that bailed out Failure Manning, or the failure to award Maroney the TD he clearly had before fumbling in the end zone, were the only reasons the Dolts were not blown out.

    Face it.  Your team has received the most favorable treatment of any team in history (name another team called out by the head of referees for excessive favorable treatment as the Colts were) and they are still massive underachieving fauilures led by the biggest choker QB off all time. 
     

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    Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week?

    posted at 11/20/2010 1:53 AM EST

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    Way to start the whining early!  Just like X-mas shopping, you don't want to wait to the last minute...
    Posted by JulesWinfield


         Whining?? Try fact. Since 2005, the Colts are 4-1 against the Pats. They beat them 35-34 last year, 18-15 in 2008, 27-20, in 2006...along with that tainted AFC title game, 38-34. Their lone loss was that 24-20 game, in 2007. In these 5 games, the Pats were penalized 31 times for 369 yards, while your lovables were penalized just 20 times, for 158 yards. A coincidence?
     

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    Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week?

    posted at 11/20/2010 7:34 AM EST

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    In Response to Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week? : The game moves faster than ever, and these guys aren't machines. Perhaps the way they are trained needs to be re-visited.
    Posted by nhsteven


    ok I agree with you on the speed of the game but since we are discussing inconsistency of the officating shouldn't the speed of the game contribute to inaccurate calls for both teams not just one.
     

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    Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week?

    posted at 11/20/2010 7:39 AM EST

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    With all the gifts to the Steelers last week AND we kicked their b**ts, I say we get out to a huge lead before the zebras start enforcing the "Peyton Calls." The NFL: The House That Archie Built
    Posted by ipot


    If you recall the AFC championship game.  The Pats are up 21-3 and driving for another score. First down at the Colts 10 or so yard line oooooh but you see.  Troy Brown getting called for PI for the identical play the Colts run time and time again. 
    You see....the refs make it a point to make calls in a game when one team is getting ready to bury the other......Hell we even saw it in the Pitt game last week. The PI call on Gronk was BS.  The rule of thumb on that call is if the receiver extends his arms......he did not extend his arms and yet again took a first down away from the Pats delaying the inevitable.
     

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    Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week?

    posted at 11/20/2010 8:57 AM EST

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    In Response to Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week? : ok I agree with you on the speed of the game but since we are discussing inconsistency of the officating shouldn't the speed of the game contribute to inaccurate calls for both teams not just one.
    Posted by jaxpat


    That's objectivity for you. One of the reasons for the rule changes a few years back was due to the perception that the Patriots were widely considered the dirtiest team in football; now the pendulum has swung too much the other way, resulting in the 'Peyton calls'. Brady's injury and the concussion issue also contributed, albeit justifiably.
     

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    Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week?

    posted at 11/20/2010 9:04 AM EST

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    In Response to Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week? : Actually, I'm not stupid.  I have advanced degrees...
    Posted by JulesWinfield


    I taught Wayne Gretzky how to play hockey.



    See how easy this is?







     

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    Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week?

    posted at 11/20/2010 9:57 AM EST

    It's not whining to state that the rules change...I'm sorry..."re-emphasis" regarding illegal contact, coupled with new rules on how the quarterback can be hit, and hits in general, has changed the entire game and the prime benefactor, simply because of the style of the game has been Peyton Manning.

    That doesn't mean other QBs haven't benefitted, Drew Brees is exhibit B, but the illegal contact rule being reemphasized completely played to the strongest aspect of Manning's game - the five step timing throw. He is the NFL's best at that type of offense bar none. Five step drop, throw the ball before the receiver cut, hit the tight window as the receiver turns his head.

    If Dan Marino had still been playing for that rule change (sorry re-emphasis)...the Dolphins would've likely had a run identical to the Colts because he's another master at that type offense. In fact that's how they beat the 86 Bears.

    The complaint, not whine, is that defense is no longer an equal part of the game. That is a shame. Any game built on an offense/defense paradigm (so golf is out) where one aspect has rules to make it easier for that aspect (like the last decade in the NFL where the offense gets more and more "protection") takes away from the enjoyment of that game because it gets more and more like the WWE where the referees no longer enforce the rules...they pick the winner and loser not on purpose per se, but simply because the majority of the infractions they look for is for one aspect of the game.





    And by the way...any fan that defends the faceguarding call as the right call against the Pats...sad...must be Tim Donaghey fans since that's a basketball rule, not a football rule. 

     
     

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    Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week?

    posted at 11/20/2010 10:19 AM EST

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    In Response to Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week? : That's objectivity for you. One of the reasons for the rule changes a few years back was due to the perception that the Patriots were widely considered the dirtiest team in football; now the pendulum has swung too much the other way, resulting in the 'Peyton calls'. Brady's injury and the concussion issue also contributed, albeit justifiably.
    Posted by nhsteven


    "Widely considered" the "dirtiest team in football"?

    Really?

    Care to elaborate on this silly statement?


     

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    Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week?

    posted at 11/20/2010 10:32 AM EST

    I'll help.  I don't know about dirtiest - subjective superlatives are always debatable, but when your team and its fan base prize a multiple winner of the league wide dirtiest ped's user as well as a player who has a penchant for trying to poke out the eyes his opponents your team certainly finds itself entered in the conversation quarterfinals.

    Know what I mean?
     

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    Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week?

    posted at 11/20/2010 10:47 AM EST

    I predict at least 1 Reggie Wayne PI call totalling more than 40 yards.
     

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    Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week?

    posted at 11/20/2010 11:00 AM EST

    i'll bite
     

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    Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week?

    posted at 11/20/2010 11:04 AM EST

    There is no doubt hat the Colts will get 3 - 5 questionable calls in their favor.

    That happens every week - and every NFL fan knows it. 
     

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    Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week?

    posted at 11/20/2010 11:08 AM EST

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    In Response to Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week? : "Widely considered" the "dirtiest team in football"? Really? Care to elaborate on this silly statement?
    Posted by BBReigns


    Ever hear of Rodney Harrison? Vince Wilfork? Seymour? Vrabel? Bruschi? Warren? Law? Milloy? Spygate? Samuels was pretty clean and a stud to boot.

    Admittedly, 'dirtiest team in the league' was a little harsh, but this style of play, combined with Polian's whining, is why we have the "Peyton Rules".

    I actually have friends who were Pats fans and stopped watching them because of the way they play, and I was quoting them, hence the somewhat inappropriate statement above.

    For more: 

     

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    Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week?

    posted at 11/20/2010 11:14 AM EST

    I think the colts will get enough calls to win.  I think the pats are the cleanest team in the league.
     

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    Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week?

    posted at 11/20/2010 11:34 AM EST

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    In Response to Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week? :      Whining?? Try fact. Since 2005, the Colts are 4-1 against the Pats. They beat them 35-34 last year, 18-15 in 2008, 27-20, in 2006...along with that tainted AFC title game, 38-34. Their lone loss was that 24-20 game, in 2007. In these 5 games, the Pats were penalized 31 times for 369 yards, while your lovables were penalized just 20 times, for 158 yards. A coincidence?
    Posted by TexasPat3


    11 penalties for 211 yards is an amazing discrepancy. Not only are there more, but when they are there they are huge. 

    The weird part is that NE is traditionally in the lower part of the league in penalties against. 
     

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    Re: Its the Colts..how many bailout calls this week?

    posted at 11/20/2010 12:17 PM EST

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    Great whining guys!  Maybe we should call it a day, and pick it up with more whining in the morning!
    Posted by JulesWinfield


    You're really a one trick pony, dude.

    Is this all you got?