It's unfortunate.

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    Re: It's unfortunate.

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    It's not so much bashing Brady as simply stating that he isn't playing well REGARDLESS of all the turmoil around him, but to SOME in here, it's a sacrilege to say ANYTHING negative about TB. I will always be a diehard Pats fan but will NEVER be a "Homer". The removal of the rose colored glasses will reveal a 36 year QB who is showing signs of decline all before the hand injury. YES Brady IS on the decline and to think otherwise means you haven't turned 36 or you never played sports past college.

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    Interesting read, but still spin.

     

     

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    Im ok with "interesting"

     
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    Your right. It's about expectations and to use a rusty word, we have been "spoiled" by a dominant offense for many years. 

    This team for the first time since the early 2000's has grit. We only have to be good enough to go the distance, not flashy or put on an offensive clinic as denver is doing now. We still have 8 games to get guys healthy and keep improving. 

    the 2 things I want to see us get better in offensively are 3rd downs and red zone efficiency. If we can do that we can help control the clock which benefits the d. On the d side, same thing, improve on getting off the field on 3rd down and get better at stopping the run. Keep creating turnovers. 

    We have a good enough team guys. Sometimes good enough is all it takes especially if they can keep improving and catch some fire in December.

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    I think we all love their grit and like a gritty team (ala 01' and 03') but this team is running on pure grit right now and is extremely thin in depth and talent. It's one thing to have tons of grit and another to have the depth of talent to back it up when a player has an off day or one goes down. Eventually grit alone won't win and you need some talent to take over. I think what most are seeing is that the grit is there but the talent might be lacking

     
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    Re: It's unfortunate.

    everybody points to the 6-2 record,  but the last 4 games are 2-2.

     

    This is the reality people.  It's not unfortunate at all to put the focus on the performance of the single most important player in any sport to his team...


    Except maybe a goalie for an NHL team, but the fact is QBs get a lot of credit and blame that is not necessarily justified in a team game that requires choreography of 11 players times 3 phases of the game.


    Complain all you want about the Brady critics but it is not a lithmus test for fandom to lay down and kiss the feet of any player on this team.  All are accountable as is MCD, DCMatt, and BB.

    This board would be BORING if everyone just said happy things about our happy team.   Look REality is good for people able to deal with facts and make adjustments.  That is what is going on here.  POoint out the facts,  suggest corrections,  DEBATE THE CORRECTIONS,  then see if BB , Brady and MCD can figure it out and improve.  

    Its always about getting better.  All the time. 

    Also about consistency since the maddening thing is the flashes of brilliance we see from Brady mixed in with the other stuff.  Flashes of the Brady we have known and loved.  Part of the angst expressed here is the pain of watching it slip away.   Fight it every step of the way.  We all have to.

     

     

     
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    everybody points to the 6-2 record,  but the last 4 games are 2-2.

     

    This is the reality people.  It's not unfortunate at all to put the focus on the performance of the single most important player in any sport to his team...


    Except maybe a goalie for an NHL team, but the fact is QBs get a lot of credit and blame that is not necessarily justified in a team game that requires choreography of 11 players times 3 phases of the game.


    Complain all you want about the Brady critics but it is not a lithmus test for fandom to lay down and kiss the feet of any player on this team.  All are accountable as is MCD, DCMatt, and BB.

    This board would be BORING if everyone just said happy things about our happy team.   Look REality is good for people able to deal with facts and make adjustments.  That is what is going on here.  POoint out the facts,  suggest corrections,  DEBATE THE CORRECTIONS,  then see if BB , Brady and MCD can figure it out and improve.  

    Its always about getting better.  All the time. 

    Also about consistency since the maddening thing is the flashes of brilliance we see from Brady mixed in with the other stuff.  Flashes of the Brady we have known and loved.  Part of the angst expressed here is the pain of watching it slip away.   Fight it every step of the way.  We all have to.

     

     

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    Ahhh, you realize Brady has been sacked twice as much as in the best years, and by far more than any other year, right?

    And you do realize his top 3 starting receivers had a total of 8 starts among them going into the season, right?

    Do you factor these things in  at all?

     
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    Re: It's unfortunate.

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    everybody points to the 6-2 record,  but the last 4 games are 2-2.

     

    This is the reality people.  It's not unfortunate at all to put the focus on the performance of the single most important player in any sport to his team...


    Except maybe a goalie for an NHL team, but the fact is QBs get a lot of credit and blame that is not necessarily justified in a team game that requires choreography of 11 players times 3 phases of the game.


    Complain all you want about the Brady critics but it is not a lithmus test for fandom to lay down and kiss the feet of any player on this team.  All are accountable as is MCD, DCMatt, and BB.

    This board would be BORING if everyone just said happy things about our happy team.   Look REality is good for people able to deal with facts and make adjustments.  That is what is going on here.  POoint out the facts,  suggest corrections,  DEBATE THE CORRECTIONS,  then see if BB , Brady and MCD can figure it out and improve.  

    Its always about getting better.  All the time. 

    Also about consistency since the maddening thing is the flashes of brilliance we see from Brady mixed in with the other stuff.  Flashes of the Brady we have known and loved.  Part of the angst expressed here is the pain of watching it slip away.   Fight it every step of the way.  We all have to.

     

     

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    Ahhh, you realize Brady has been sacked twice as much as in the best years, and by far more than any other year, right?

    And you do realize his top 3 starting receivers had a total of 8 starts among them going into the season, right?

    Do you factor these things in  at all?

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    Absolutely... hence the comment on accountablity.  Everybody has to do it and its not easy.  Football can be great in its simplicity but also complicated as hell .  A lot of moving parts.

    What the offwense is trying to do may not be what they are best at executing.  but if you factor OUT all other contributing influences on every play you will still see glaring mistakes that Brady never seemed to make before.  Accuracy stuff.  He was alwys the most accurate QB in the league.  Now it seems it just doent come as easy any more.   I know hes working on it ,  so hopefully he can get the footwork, timing , and playcalling all dialed in for next week.

     

     
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