8.5 mil per....
I figure seabass gets 6mi perl 10-14 mil gauranteed?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/18/jake-long-agrees-to-terms-with-rams/
Jake Long signs with Rams, sets the market for Seabass..
posted at 3/18/2013 1:00 AM EDT
8.5 mil per....
I figure seabass gets 6mi perl 10-14 mil gauranteed?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/18/jake-long-agrees-to-terms-with-rams/
Re: Jake Long signs with Rams, sets the market for Seabass..
posted at 3/18/2013 1:02 AM EDT
Vollmer- 5years/$35M
Re: Jake Long signs with Rams, sets the market for Seabass..
posted at 3/18/2013 1:04 AM EDT
Doubt he gets that from us... Just my opinion.
Re: Jake Long signs with Rams, sets the market for Seabass..
posted at 3/18/2013 1:16 AM EDT
Long, the top LT on the market, sets the market for all Tackles, especially Andre Smith, the top RT. Seabass is ranked somewhere between Andre Smith and Gosder Cherilus. Gosder already signed for 5years/$34.5... i don't see Seabass accepting $6M/per. Smith will probably get $7.5M/per.
Vollmer might even be the #1 RT on the market including Smith depending on who you ask.
Re: Jake Long signs with Rams, sets the market for Seabass..
posted at 3/18/2013 1:38 AM EDT
The Pats offer will be nowhere near that for Vollmer, doubt if BB will give him more than 6 millions a year for more than 3 years.
Re: Jake Long signs with Rams, sets the market for Seabass..
posted at 3/18/2013 2:00 AM EDT
No one will pay him 6mill a year
...He's too much a risk health wise. Most of his contract will be incentive based with the only guarentee being, 1 Asian massage girl twice a week from Gronks groupie pool!
Re: Jake Long signs with Rams, sets the market for Seabass..
posted at 3/18/2013 5:03 AM EDT
LT is 8-10M/yr for the top end. RT is 5-7M for the top end. With Vollmers health problems a team has to have a good back-up for 2 to 4 games every year so I doubt he gets more than 5-6M with incentives. I would guess the Pats offer is 5M with maybe a total of 10M guaranteed. He may get a better offer, but not necessarily. RT is home to failed left tackles and there are a fair number of failed LT.
Re: Jake Long signs with Rams, sets the market for Seabass..
posted at 3/18/2013 5:19 AM EDT
That's one of the problems. Seabass isn't a failed LT as far as ability goes. He can play that spot and this is what makes him valuable. The main problem is his health and ability to stay on the field. which hurts him whether you're playing LT or RT.
Re: Jake Long signs with Rams, sets the market for Seabass..
posted at 3/18/2013 6:16 AM EDT
Given what Long got, I don't see Seabass getting a deal that isn't loaded with conditions re: his health from BB. Perhaps elsewhere but not here. Be surprised if it were $6 mil per.
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posted at 3/18/2013 6:52 AM EDT
Sounds like your opinion of smith is way higher then mine. That guy isn't worth 3m per. The true definition of a bust. I think it took him 3 years to see the field he broke his foot twice I think. He must have stepped in some Carson Palmer dust.
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posted at 3/18/2013 8:26 AM EDT
Phins and Eagles going hard on Vollmer
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posted at 3/18/2013 8:47 AM EDT
I see him getting $6 million gauranteed . . . and a 4 year deal worth $25 million but more loaded on the back end so the team that signs him can back out if his back acts up . . . thought about this a week (weak) back!
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posted at 3/18/2013 11:08 AM EDT
ESPN Boston believes the Patriots' "best hope" to re-sign free agent RT Sebastian Vollmer is on a one-year deal.
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posted at 3/18/2013 11:20 AM EDT
In response to TFB12's comment:
ESPN Boston believes the Patriots' "best hope" to re-sign free agent RT Sebastian Vollmer is on a one-year deal.
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posted at 3/18/2013 11:26 AM EDT
In response to ATJ's comment:
In response to TFB12's comment:
ESPN Boston believes the Patriots' "best hope" to re-sign free agent RT Sebastian Vollmer is on a one-year deal.
Wouldn't surprise me if this is what ends up happening.
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Re: Jake Long signs with Rams, sets the market for Seabass..
posted at 3/18/2013 11:31 AM EDT
In response to mia76's comment:
LT is 8-10M/yr for the top end. RT is 5-7M for the top end. With Vollmers health problems a team has to have a good back-up for 2 to 4 games every year so I doubt he gets more than 5-6M with incentives. I would guess the Pats offer is 5M with maybe a total of 10M guaranteed. He may get a better offer, but not necessarily. RT is home to failed left tackles and there are a fair number of failed LT.
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posted at 3/18/2013 2:32 PM EDT
The best tackles in college (as in the pros) end up on the left and the best of the best get drafted as LTs in the 1st round. When they do not make it on the left side as pros, they get shifted to the right side in hopes they will hold up better there. I belive a few of the highest paid RTs currently are still on their initial 'LT' rookie contracts (pre rookie cap.) Few RTs are ever shifted to LT unless like Martin in Miami were drafted as insurance for a LT but fill in at RT waiting for the LT opening.
Of course some players are specifically drafted as RTs and someone might try Vollmer on the left, but they aren't likely to pay him a LT premium based on a few games from early in his career.
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posted at 3/18/2013 2:37 PM EDT
In response to mia76's comment:
The best tackles in college (as in the pros) end up on the left and the best of the best get drafted as LTs in the 1st round. When they do not make it on the left side as pros, they get shifted to the right side in hopes they will hold up better there. I belive a few of the highest paid RTs currently are still on their initial 'LT' rookie contracts (pre rookie cap.) Few RTs are ever shifted to LT unless like Martin in Miami were drafted as insurance for a LT but fill in at RT waiting for the LT opening.
Of course some players are specifically drafted as RTs and someone might try Vollmer on the left, but they aren't likely to pay him a LT premium based on a few games from early in his career.
Re: Jake Long signs with Rams, sets the market for Seabass..
posted at 3/18/2013 8:19 PM EDT
I think Vollmer is a goner. No way he gets paid near that level or close to it.
Re: Jake Long signs with Rams, sets the market for Seabass..
posted at 3/18/2013 9:17 PM EDT
In response to RidingWithTheKing's comment:
I don't see how an injured and released 1st rd pick ties to an injured FA 2nd rd pick RT. Seabass, Winston or Smith will set the RT market.
I'd walk away from Vollmer. Cannon was a steal in Rd 2 and they could use the money elsewhere.
Re: Jake Long signs with Rams, sets the market for Seabass..
posted at 3/18/2013 9:19 PM EDT
In response to mthurl's comment:
In response to RidingWithTheKing's comment:
I don't see how an injured and released 1st rd pick ties to an injured FA 2nd rd pick RT. Seabass, Winston or Smith will set the RT market.
I'd walk away from Vollmer. Cannon was a steal in Rd 2 and they could use the money elsewhere.
Cannon was a steal in round two? Wow, for a football expert like yourself, you'd think you would know what round he went in...
Re: Jake Long signs with Rams, sets the market for Seabass..
posted at 3/18/2013 11:27 PM EDT
Left tackles get more money than right tackles-5 years at 32 million 10 guranteed with options for Pats to drop after 3 years.